the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

I don't think anyone necessarily said the dude was incidental to the first three, but rather that he had fairly strong collaborative feedback control system, if you will, surrounding him that was able to edit and select and shape the random neural firing out of his brain into something better.

Actors on his first film would supplement or override his direction. DePalma reportedly cut down and reshape for the opening crawl. His wife and others literally edited the stuff. Guys like Gary Kurtz were there to call him on his shit and get in fights over it if need be(and who acrimoniously quit during the pre-production of Jedi).

Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.

― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, November 30, 2015 5:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you've heard of nathaniel dorsky, right?

have you ever seen nathaniel dorsky and george lucas in the same room?

i didn't think so....

"deliciously bond-esque" is not a good match for these films (or any films) though.

Skywalker Ranch is p odd. Japanese-style architecture, "attendants" waiting to direct you to your destination at every several hundred feet, a statue of yoda in the courtyard, tons of old original movie posters, and original Mucha of Sandra Bernhard (this was probably the thing I was most interested in). His private movie theater was showing "White Christmas", nice velvet seats.

George did not appear to hold forth on the many experimental films he has under development

wonder how much movie memorabilia will be relocated to that new museum complex in chicago

I'm sure he's got a bajillion things stashed away - we didn't see any norman rockwell stuff, for example, and I know he's got a lot of that. And there was actually very little Star Wars material. The ranch itself is used strictly for private events and is not open to the public, so I assume most of what goes on there is related to his philanthropic activities and rich people wine parties and things like that.

a former colleague was a registrar for the Skywalker ranch/ Lucas collection- the SW archive is apparently very, very extensive.

All that Jar-Jar merchandise had to go into a landfill somewhere

I can only imagine it's paved over somewhere in the desert, to be excavated by Jar Jar revisionists in 30 years

http://yourpopfilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jar-jar-binks-candy-tongue.jpg

that's the most poignant candy dispenser I've ever seen

Xpost The gist of the Chicago Museum iirc is not really to house movie memorabilia but his vast collection of fine art. Be shocked if it doesn't at least have a Star Wars wing. I recall when they built this nice new aquarium in Camden, New Jersey and thought it was a good idea to focus on local fish. After a year of low attendance, out came the sharks and shiny fish.

no idea if this has prev seen light of day

https://twitter.com/pareene/status/676539201471586307

goddamn it.

yeah it's from the Making Of book that came out in 2013

but yeah, the level of detail even then is pretty crazy

http://www.designboom.com/architecture/mad-architects-george-lucas-museum-of-narrative-art-approved-chicago-11-02-2015/ (from nov)

ha, re that story conversation: was rereading chunks of the secret history of star wars yesterday and laughing at how frequently lucas' early conception of the emperor was described as a "nixonian bureaucrat" (not a phrase that makes a whole lot of sense but tevs)--like, i wish!

do you mean Emperor Cos Dashit?

lol yes i do

I learned a new term this weekend:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder%27s_syndrome

can't argue that

you need new blood, otherwise you end up doing things the exact same way forever while the world rolls on around you

you also run the risk that the people who were so instrumental had one good idea and don't realize you can't work off that forever

https://vine.co/v/ibhuE1UO6WD

XD

Around when episode 1 came out, I saw an interview with Lucas on Canadian TV* where he said he was a monarchist. Anyone remember seeing this? I can't find it online. (*note: around 40% of Canadian TV is from the US so I don't know where it came from.)

what if it was a weird canada-only interview where he misunderstood the relationship to the queen and was trying to ingratiate himself

http://www.clickhole.com/theysaidwhat/find-out-what-george-lucas-john-cena-and-helen-mir-3755?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook

"Mm." - George Lucas

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thinking about jedis and luke: how lame is it that for the prequels, apart from all the other blandifications of the jedi (huge centralized bureaucracy rather than a bunch of independent guardians of peace and justice, etc etc), he insisted on giving them all obi-wan's desert robes from the first film, rather than luke's BADASS black outfit from ROTJ? it had always just been obvious to me: the jedi are returning, and this is what they wear. vader's look is like a corrupted jedi outfit, dark side, cool. ugggghghhhhhhhhh.

Good point, but Yoda wore beige robes in the OT as well. It's inconsistent.

As did Ghost Anakin (OG version).

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3S2auEHR4rg/hqdefault.jpg

Luke dresses differently because he is different, at least until he confronts Vader and the Emperor. The first thing we see him do in ROTJ is force-choke one of Jabba's guards, which is decidedly not a light-side thing to do.

That black outfit made a big impact on me as a kid (also loved the Luke in black/stormtroopers in white imagery).

yeah okay good point with the force ghosts. but still, man, you imagine a world where the jedis are still around, fighting the CLONE WARS, and idk it always seemed more like black-outfit luke being awesome on the ROTJ poster. maybe this is just because of ROTJ's fumbling script failing to establish what luke's actual moral arc is in that film. but i lived for years with a pretty clear, kick-ass vision in my head and then it was just a bunch of sluggish people shuffling around in robes insisting that it was inappropriate for them to do anything or act on any information.

the cloak and robes are a jedi order thing, we just don't really see jedi outside the order in any of the prequels because they're such an orthodoxy

that's why the jedi fell, all that restrictive, inflexible orthodoxy that forced them to wear bad clothes

We did have at least one non-robed Jedi in the prequels:

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23700000/Jedi-Master-star-wars-jedi-23758068-397-500.jpg

And this dude dressed more like a Tolkein LARPer

https://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/0/8572/338543-ki_adi_mundi.jpg

Here we have the Met Gala version of Jedi robes.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149056/4448465-barriss+offee.jpg

Many, many years ago, on this thread, DJP in a previous life said this:

You know, they could have played the Ewoks exactly as they did and no one would have complained if they'd added scenes with them eating the fallen Stormtrooper clones.

― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:35 PM

And now the dream is true, kinda.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/leia-tries-to-stop-ewoks-from-consuming-human-flesh-in-1819977244

This is glorious.

star wars prequels: most embarrassing and hacky attempt at fan-service and plot resolution

seeing this thread revive and its title provoked different thoughts than usual

Also: never forget how Lucas, Spielberg, and Kasdan initially conceptualized Marion Ravenwood in early brainstorming sessions for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. pic.twitter.com/JiQUOwBrWT

— Kate Hagen (@thathagengrrl) April 4, 2018

jesus christ

And her saying "i was a *child*" is still in the movie!

there was a pdf of the whole conversation doing the rounds a while back and there’s some pretty gross stuff in there iirc

Mmhm yeah, it's being taken apart on Twitter line by line as we speak

https://moedred.livejournal.com/2009/03/04/

"it was wrong and you knew it!"

Turned out a number of friends hadn't heard about that before so I'm glad it is making the rounds again.

spielberg was a big fan of the racism as i recall

1978 was before the '90s iirc