Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

Andrew take your condescending attitude and shove it directly up your ass

In flight magazine, motherfucker why don't you back up one single thing your insinuating about me and my personal ethics

Dude, what the fuck are you talking about?

You accuse me of altering review scores at GameStop's bidding, which is calling me crooked. then compare us to an in flight magazine, stop your faux naif routine.

Sorry everyone but all this time of I'm not saying I'm just saying shit cannot take it one more minute.

Okay well, I expressed surprise because, when you hear a big magazine is owned by a big retailer of what the magazine covers, it's not the default assumption that the magazine has a completely free hand. You get that, right? I mean, I was already aware of it because it made Leigh Alexander's List of Actual Ethical Concerns post.

You tell me it's not the case, that's fine, I am completely down with that, and it's a pleasant surprise - that's what I meant by "that's neat". I'm aware that the things you referenced as evidence are public, and I could have found them out beforehand, but I'm not a journalist researching a story - I'm some asshole having an opinion on the internet. I don't think I've ever actually held a copy of GI.

I do know enough journalists though, that I wasn't expecting you to take it as a personal insult - it wasn't intended as such, even if I'd known you worked there before today I'd have figured a job's a job. But I clearly have insulted you, so sorry about that.

Anyway, all I meant by the second line was just that "We do some things that don't benefit our owner's bottom line" is kind of an odd defense of the independence (which again I'm not disputing), as even publications that are very clearly commercially driven and/or utilitarian have *some* other material in them. I cast around for an example and came up with an in-flight magazine - it's a comparison in so far as any analogy is, but it was intended to be clearly at the other end of the range from what you've just described GI as. Clearly I need to work on my clearly.

I think regardless of who owns the game magazine, there's an interest in covering all games as well as you can, since even people who buy items not carried in-store are going to want to buy accessories, controllers, or other physical items they could shop for at the mall.

I used to love reading game reviews as a kid even when I actually bought very few games -- partially because I was limited in the number of games I could afford to buy, but also because my mom could be talked into buying me reading material. Probably half out of gratitude for the ability to park me at the magazines/books section in Target for a while when she went to go get things I wasn't into.

On the other hand, a store is going to want to work to sell to all their possible customers, regardless of where the actual game is being downloaded. And they'll try to pull a few bucks out of that, too. I mean, Gamestop sells Steam gift cards! http://www.gamestop.com/collection/steam-cards

m@tt I get the defensiveness, but if having a magazine didn't sell games, even if the content doesn't directly advocate what games, there'd be no advertisers and no revenue! It's not a dirty business, it's just how things work.

I've known people who have written great reviews or cultural pieces that ended up being published in tourism magazines or airline magazines or whatever. It doesn't mean it's not written by people who love culture, it's just the venue for getting paid for writing about what you love. I have a few of those magazines around because of the pieces I really like, but it only marginally influences what airline I use, or what hotel I stay in.

imo it's prudent for the "sponsor" as it were to give the writers a free hand, and for the actual store stockists to read their own magazine because it's like in-house market research!

Leigh's list of ethical concerns somehow left out her working as a game consultant while working as a journalist.

I'm saying I understand the suspicions I just get tired of constantly defending it. Esp when ppl who claim they want journalism never seem to have more proof than "well gee sure seems fishy." Either I'm an sjw operative or corporate stooge, every thing I wrote is out there you decide.

I think a company selling games is a lot less suspicious than, I dunno, a company making games? Regardless of who advertises in GI, the parent company doesn't really give a shit which game sells, as long as some game does

tbh i dont give a crap about ethics in video game journalism. it is a job, people get paid to write about products. they are associated w the game creators because that is professional, that is networking. what people think is "collision" is good communication.

there is a strong anti-company movement that is alongside the anti-journalism one. people hate the companies themselves. they hate valve, ea, ubisoft, etc. they spent all year trashing konami. "DLC" and "MICROTRANSACTIONS" are talking points known to render people incapable of anything outside of primal consumerist babble. i dont know why there is all this distrust.

i dont really want anything out of video game journalism other than fresh takes on the material itself. i could do w less corporate drama. less social media gaffes. more like a film critic, looking at framing, staging, themes, motifs, etc. the drama gets really hyped these days and it ends up as fuel for the haters.

i apologize to upper mississippi if i seem disrespectful. i don't know who you are or what site you write for. i will always want to read new stuff.

Thanks. I'm overly sensitive being that I found a Gamergate hit piece on me online. Thing is too guys there was more death threats (not to me personally) than you know. One major outlet had their families doxxed but no one reported on it. My wife was very happy when I quit game journalism. It's a toxic environment now.
But on the whole I tried to do the best I could and I believe that to be true of our competitors. There's no big conspiracy. It's just a bunch of companies throwing shit at the wall and trying to see what sticks and no one really knows what they are doing.

at least that gamergate don't like you is something that kinda resounds to yr favor?

I'm sure having the moral high ground feels great when you and your family are getting killed by the swat team

You couldn't ask for a better name for a Gamergate site than Reaxxion.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/25/best-boycott-ever-dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-more-popular-than-ever/

An import site has been hyping the non-western release of a Japanese game not planned for US release as evidence of SJW censorship.

Play-Asia.com @playasia
#DOAX3 will not be coming to the US due to #SJW nonsense. However, we will have the English Asia version available: http://par.bz/87f
9:34 PM - 24 Nov 2015

https://twitter.com/playasia/status/669498158573981697/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Of course there are no such boycotts and this is the first anyone has even thought of this game. Funny that we now have Spite Marketing.

http://twitter.com/pkollar/status/670563466428751873

today I learned that a "boob slider" is a thing

least legal white castle promotion ever

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVPqQ3xWoAUf9UV.png:large

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/23/why-im-winning/

not gonna click on beetbort today but i am assuming he is using the charlie sheen version of "winning"

I didn't read the article either tbh

woof
https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/684917563747258369
scroll up for the whole story there

huh - interesting

She makes a good point! it's only good business that she gets pilloried.

definitely. such a weird situation. i sort of knew about the whole internet MRA personality industry, but didn't connect the dots the way she does there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujTufg1GvR4

i love how she tried using the camera to look at dudes butts and it wouldn't let her

"STRATEGIC BUTT COVERINGS"
i never stop being astonished that sarkeesian has made her bones on the most astonishingly obvious points
i also never stop being astonished that people think there's any reasonable way to argue her astonishingly obvious points
it is a mystery

otm this is something that has always puzzled me as well. i initially thought her first vid was a bust BC it seemed too thin but from the backlash against her it would seem she is something of a revolutionary thinker for bothering to state facts in evidence

look at all these examples of blatant sexism in popular media
*shows examples of blatant sexism but doesn't leave comments on*
truth in journalism gnash gnash gonna SWAT you i am so easily shook

maybe she should start cursing constantly and screaming in her videos, that seems to make them better

I thought the entire point behind what Sarkeesian was doing WAS that it was all super-obvious low-hanging fruit that is taken as the baseline mainstream threshold of gaming and shouldn't be.

It is! But it's been basically the same video/backlash cycle now for over a year and it's shocking that the same shibboleths still get a rise out of the trolls.

yeah you would think these kids had a better grasp of basic feminist theory

99% of the time it's just basic common sense

common sense needs to be pointed out too

society is in

difficult to get a man to understand something when his sociopathic power fantasies depend on his not understanding it iirc

https://blog.twitter.com/2016/announcing-the-twitter-trust-safety-council

anita sarkeesian has been named to some sort of "twitter safety council" and they are mad

https://twitter.com/Chriss_m/status/697137171350876161

The internet is making me go "uh" a lot more than usual this week

barely sublimated eroticism in that commentary

that guy is one of the most abjectly pitiful regular participants of the Gamergate hashtag

I mean that bio, christ

sweet dali painting tho

this is the person who runs the scholarship fund for white men that milo founded:

https://twitter.com/MargaretsBelly/status/697148365285564418

still about the same stuff then

"first made the news as the world's premier bellydancer with an ostomy"

cooooool

gone home console edition is 89 on metacritic, 4.9 user score. quick scan of the negative reviews, every. single. one. mentions sjws. there should be a meninist filter on user scores on MC.