[DELETE ONE OF THESE ENDINGS TO THE SENTENCE AND KEEP THE OTHER BASED ON FACTS]
― lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 11:45 (eight years ago) link
idgi is this guy leaving messages in square brackets to himself, to check before he submits, or does he actually expect sub-editor to do all this work for him?
― I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Friday, 27 November 2015 12:02 (eight years ago) link
I dunno, one the one hand it's embarrassing, but not too terribly damning for the writer. As j says, at least it reveals responsible (if p basic) fact-checking stuff, not something like [remember to actually listen to album, find out who this mysterious "Rihanna" is, etc]. In other words, let s/he who has never riddled a draft with "notes to self" cast the first stone. Now, actually publishing it like that, well that, that I cannot defend.
Of course, I can see how it happened: writer accidentally sent an earlier (I hope MUCH earlier) draft, editor didn't bother to read it, voila. I'd be mortified.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 27 November 2015 12:13 (eight years ago) link
So wait this was a real fuckup? Not a sarcastic commentary on the state of music journalism?
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 27 November 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link
not sure that's really Yahoo News' stock in trade
― a moment on the streets, a lifetime in the sheets (DJ Mencap), Friday, 27 November 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link
Amazing
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 November 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link
great review
― welltris (crüt), Friday, 27 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
NAME RELEVANT SONG FROM ANTI THAT MATCHES DESCRIPTION
'pushes the edge'
it's like an sql query
― j., Friday, 27 November 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, November 27, 2015 7:13 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nah, disagree. Its not the half-finished state, its that there's already a hack-judgment on the music of the album, unheard, just waiting for relevant fill-in-the-blank quotes to validate the already existing narrative.
Also that it pretty clearly shows that articles aren't about covering new info but assembling enough keywords to be first-past-the-post in googlejuice when people are searching for the thing the article _links_ to.
― big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Friday, 27 November 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
"service journalism"
its that there's already a hack-judgment on the music of the album, unheard, just waiting for relevant fill-in-the-blank quotes to validate the already existing narrative.
yeah but what's the probability the album won't fit the narrative? they may rewrite if the album comes out and it's less edgy and free than Unapologetic, and are just betting that the content will reflect the promo materials
― flopson, Friday, 27 November 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
like if i wrote the draft of a financial report before getting official results but with some prior expectation of record setting growth, i may write
This was a record year for the company. Earnings before depreciation and taxes grew by [PERCENTAGE], making this quarter our best since [YEAR].
― flopson, Friday, 27 November 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
true lol
i guess the "shock" of reading this draft is seeing that music writing is just as perfunctory as any other kind of writing?
didn't everyone already know this
― flopson, Friday, 27 November 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
not to blow your mind but most reviews aren't written before the reviewer has heard the album
― I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Friday, 27 November 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
and if they are, well, they generally deserve to be included within the annals of this thread
― I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Friday, 27 November 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
oh it's an actual album review? i thought it was just a little news blurb on some aggregator site for when the album drops
― flopson, Friday, 27 November 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
no, hang on, you're right - it's nominally a news piece, though again, the writer doesn't seem to know the album well enough to express the shards of opinion without leaving the note to find a song that supports his suppositions later.
― I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Friday, 27 November 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
I guess this is a common risk with web writing though - did you save the rough first take of a piece on the CMS as a draft as you meant to, or did you actually go through with publishing the thing?
― I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Friday, 27 November 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
rest in peace, mac mccormick...
"In great measure Lightnin' and his songs reflect the mistreatment which has been and, in lesser degree, is the condition of Negro life. But while reflecting it, Lightnin' is not in any real sense subject to it in the way his neighbors are. Pursued by women of two races, earning upwards of $15,000 a year, and free to exercise all but a fraction of the rights of first class citizenship, his position is hardly comparable to those who stand in a condition of fear and elemental want."
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12274467_10154362120527137_7640918093203148569_n.jpg?oh=2e695b80d119bed0cc77a68e6e17d523&oe=56ADC6B3
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 November 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
wow, is that in the liners?
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 05:57 (eight years ago) link
yeah. and it gets worse after that.
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 November 2015 06:08 (eight years ago) link
"As this tribute illustrates, the one single thing which Lightnin' can give is music. Otherwise he has nothing to offer."
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 November 2015 06:09 (eight years ago) link
"Not to be confused with the great bluesmen who expressed a deeper, universal sorrow..."
he compares him to a clown. and then just rakes him over the coals forever. describes at length the ways in which Lightnin' wouldn't help various family members who needed money. it's brutal.
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 November 2015 06:10 (eight years ago) link
What a charmer
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 06:30 (eight years ago) link
wow
hopkins was a notoriously layabout and womanizer and was widely considered to lack elementary loyalty, but... jeez.
mccormick sounds a bit like that stephen calt guy. who is also dead. coincidence?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 28 November 2015 08:48 (eight years ago) link
Calt's a bastard but at least he writes in a way that suggests an education beyond the fifth grade
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 28 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
This is decent from a grammatical/syntactical perspective, but it rivals the Goddess In The Doorway album review for the title of "Most Rolling Stone Article Ever."
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 28 November 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link
i like how immediately after gioia went off on music people really wanting to be in the movie business he referred to what 'jack black' was doing with third man records
― maura, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
research!
― maura, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
oh whoops wrong thread i'm talking about these videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NT-fbu4b40https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xOK9ETlhRs
― maura, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link
maura, it was nice to see you write about Palm in RS. they played a great show at my store this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaDnnPLdu4I
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link
yeah!! i love them. they're playing here tomorrow!
― maura, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
also, shout out to whiney for accepting my pitch on them :)
― maura, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
good job, whiney!
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/who-is-really-paying-for-adele
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 29 November 2015 11:01 (eight years ago) link
Idiotic.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 29 November 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link
the previous and seemingly unassailable record, 2.4 million, set by ’N Sync, in 2000,
her label, Columbia, and its parent, Sony
can't get past the commas
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Sunday, 29 November 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
maybe one superfluous comma there?
― a hastily-observed cruet (seandalai), Sunday, 29 November 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
I'd say two: after 'N Sync and after parent.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 29 November 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
the general tone of the average "WHY ISN'T ADELE ON SPOTIFY" article, this one included, makes it sound as if she was withholding bread from childrendear entitled jagoff: you can still get this album free in a dozen different ways like, i dunno, youtube if you don't want to support the radical belief that an artist has the right to sell her own work how she'd likedear "industry insider": the current trend is for blockbuster artists to roll out a concrete album release and then a quieter exclusive or multiplatform streaming release months later and sales seem to undeniably suggest that's the smartest way to do it; if you have some sort of insight as to why that's not the case, maybe voice that argument instead of nonsensically flailing about with false "the industry has EVOLVED" platitudes
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 November 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link
Stupid article but wrt the bit at the end that goes "Why not make “25” available to the premium subscribers on streaming services?": iirc TS offered this to Spotify for 1989 but Spotify refused because they don't want to have premium-only material.
Best thing about the article was the suggested link to http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/27/the-man-who-broke-the-music-business which is an interesting read
― a hastily-observed cruet (seandalai), Sunday, 29 November 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
The whole thing is stupid but this but took the biscuit considering Adele is already on record moaning about paying tax so why would she want to not make as much money to help other artists?
In this scenario, maybe Adele doesn’t get the record for albums sold, but she would have significantly increased streaming subscriptions, which would benefit many artists. The way things are going now, only Adele wins.
Of course she does! that's her whole reason for doing it!
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 29 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
This article is so fucking stupid that it's practically ruining my weekend
― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 29 November 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
If you are an Apple or a Spotify subscriber (I am both), you are faced with a quandary over what to do about “25.”
Even if I were -- which I'm not -- I would not be faced with a quandary, because I don't care about the new Adele album. But to take an example that actually applies to me, I do subscribe to both Netflix and Hulu. And this weekend, my kids wanted to watch Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, because we recently finished the book. Guess what? No Harry Potter on Netflix or Hulu. Did I scream and yell because the services I subscribe to at a grand total of about $16 a month don't have every movie ever made (or, for that matter, most of them)? No. I paid the $3.99 for the HD stream from Amazon, because 4 bucks is still pretty cheap for an afternoon of family entertainment. (We did check the public library first, but it was checked out.) There are so many fallacies in such a short space that it's hard to even know what to say. I'm not even sure who he's worried about. The industry? The consumer? Both of those seem to be doing fine, at least as far as the Adele album goes. It's like he's gotten 100 percent on board the streaming train, and he's just mad that the whole world isn't there with him. The frustrated rage of the early adopter.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 29 November 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
reminds me of the guys who think people should only listen to the format of their choice who post on facebook how much they hate cds/vinyl/mp3s whatever.But they dont get paid for it and no more than 10 people probably read it
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 29 November 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
The whole thrust of his argument is "Look, lady, I already spent $20 on music this month, and now you expect me to spend another $10?!"
― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 29 November 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
And this weekend, my kids wanted to watch Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, because we recently finished the book. Guess what? No Harry Potter on Netflix or Hulu. Did I scream and yell because the services I subscribe to at a grand total of about $16 a month don't have every movie ever made (or, for that matter, most of them)? No. I paid the $3.99 for the HD stream from Amazon, because 4 bucks is still pretty cheap for an afternoon of family entertainment. (We did check the public library first, but it was checked out.) There are so many fallacies in such a short space that it's hard to even know what to say. I'm not even sure who he's worried about. The industry? The consumer? Both of those seem to be doing fine, at least as far as the Adele album goes. It's like he's gotten 100 percent on board the streaming train, and he's just mad that the whole world isn't there with him. The frustrated rage of the early adopter.
The number of times in the last two years I've seen people blink several times when I say, "I checked X out of the library" has been astonishing. It's like, if the library's not part of your life, the library will never be in your life.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 November 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
i was mad for years that there was no high quality version of the "like dust" video by the passion puppets on youtube. livid! finally, this year, my prayers were answered.
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 November 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link