2015 was a really, really bad year for music

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his youth back?

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

XD

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

The exercise I offered my friend the other night was the question: what current band or act, if they were to break up or disappear today, would you be most excited to have return in 10 years?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

The exercise I offered my friend the other night was the question: what current band or act, if they were to break up or disappear today, would you be most excited to have return in 10 years?

Sleater-Kinney

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

Can we go back to where Whiney said that there were a lot of "great" albums released in 2015 and therefore 2015 was a terrible year for music because none of them were "amazing"?

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

theres a new enya album btw

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link

I don't really get "amazed" by new music but it's cool. Best wishes to you all.

nashwan, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

Get it together musicians

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13pMFya2ilA

rushomancy, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

amazing's kind of a high bar, no, a superlative that shouldn't necessarily be used every year?

I've bought like 3,454,354 dope metal albums this year....

the Tribulation album, the new Hate Eternal, the new Satan, the new Iron Maiden.

hey guys where are you g-...

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

last year was probably worse for new music imo

LEGIT (Lamp), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

still waiting for that Martika comeback album

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link

If I wanted to hear some 1997-baby digital nightmare music, like, just to have heard it, what's "best"/most representative?

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

^

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

Is this referring to vaporwave? Feel like that peaked a year or two ago

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

2015 was a great year for music, and i can't even remember anything about it.

i've mellowed, but fuck if i like radiohead or coldplay (monster mash), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link

Come to think of it, amazed is the right word to describe my experiences with the Swervedriver, Dawn Richard, Bjork, Girlpool and Joanna Newsom albums.

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link

Holly Herndon's take on digital nightmare music was my initial reaction to the phrase

boxedjoy, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link

I think it's been a great year but I think I've been very lucky because I found albums I liked a lot fairly early on and got to spent time with them exploring their charms. I've found a lot of stuff I've really loved this year but I've had a lot of commuting time in a new job which has afforded me the luxury of time to spend with my headphones, I think this is an input:output situation

boxedjoy, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

you didn't listen hard enough

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

this year was way better than last year

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

theres a new enya album btw

otm

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link

i'm very alone in finding the janet album amazing but: it's amazing. same for crj and susanne sundfør (which is like such a stunning piece of work, idk). whiney will be unconvinced about these prob. terrible criteria anyway

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link

how's the new enya album? seriously.

i've mellowed, but fuck if i like radiohead or coldplay (monster mash), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link

dawn richard is surely the one everyone on ilx could agree on

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

it's great, her best songs in years imo. beyond that it's really thoroughly an enya album

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

xpost

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:14 (eight years ago) link

ah, glad to know she's still chugging along. i hadn't checked in with her in years, and i only have a couple of her old/acclaimed albums.

hearing there's a new, good, album of hers is kind of like seeing a really old friend on facebook and learning that they're doing pretty well, kind of.

i've mellowed, but fuck if i like radiohead or coldplay (monster mash), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:20 (eight years ago) link

this has been a fun year for music, i've really enjoyed it. i've come around to something like the opposite of the "there is nothing new under the sun" worldview, there's just tons of terrain that hasn't been explored yet in sound art and the people that are stumbling onto it are doing it in really strange surprising ways.

some dude, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

i'll admit that the 1997 babies making cut-up digital nightmare music are too clever & sophisticated for me

― welltris (crüt), Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:55 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what is this, it sounds cool

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

oh do you mean PC Music?

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

whiney's 1997-baby digital nightmare music is

my

digital "new breed"
http://www.last.fm/tag/newbreed/wiki

indicative artists

Iglooghost is a 1st student at University of Bath, still only 18 signed to the esteemed Brainfeeder label

interview
http://www.dummymag.com/features/iglooghost-interview-chinese-nu-yr

spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/album/1DYZmRfJOALk8MpQbWfyyx

indicative track:

Iglooghost - Gold Coat
https://open.spotify.com/track/0PNPNtb6hAQ9nEyh1jVaRn

slightly older,

salute, is 19 a uni student in Brighton (so either University of Sussex or University of Brighton), originally from Austria

salute - Diamond
http://www.dummymag.com/news/salute-diamond

A grandiose and inspired track from highly lauded newcomer, salute.

has over 177k plays on spotify and is one of my fav tracks of the year

salute - Diamond
https://open.spotify.com/track/0Grn7wxEEq4m3ALcEVUoE9

spotify artist: salute
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1np8xozf7ATJZDi9JX8Dx5

djmartian, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link

also known as

Futurewave
http://www.last.fm/tag/futurewave

djmartian, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link

chillwave, vaporwave, seapunk, witch house, trillwave, future garage, psychedelic, gothic, ambient, neoclassical, dream pop, lo-fi, new wave, chopped and screwed, drone, juke, footwork, grave rave, cyberpunk, outrun, coldwave, nu gaze, slutwave, broken-clash, avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, icepunk, post-punk, post-chillwave, post-futurepop, post-dubstep, eccojams, etheral, industrial, electro, shoegaze, laptopgaze, cloud rap, trap

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

xxp: some dude: i think i agree? well, i'm not sure how much i fully agree, but i definitely agree with your attitude. i would expect most on I LOVE MUSIC to agree with yr 'tude, unless they're just feeling a little burnt out on a particularly, personally, bad day. ugh. if someone thinks it's a bad year for music, then they just didn't/wouldn't/chose not to really love music (especially the music of) that particular year, basically. it's easy to love music, of any year, if you actually love music. the premise of this thread is slightly troubling for me, and hell, i don't even seek out -that much- new music.

i've mellowed, but fuck if i like radiohead or coldplay (monster mash), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

I'm not super enthusiastic abt 2015 in general at this point due to the fact that I mostly follow a few dozen "lifer" artists and then dabble in as much other stuff as I can at random. The lifer artists have not generally done much this year that inspires me, for whatever reason (see: Tangier Sessions). I play 8-10 fairly random new tracks every week on a CMJ core radio station, and I feel like it's been a weird year for music on that end. I sure played a ton of releases that were what I would call "pretty good."

That being said, the Bomba Estereo album is legit "great" for sure, every track takes a different approach. Sleater-Kinney record is awesome, maybe my favorite? Bachman's River is impressive.

in conclusion, flopson otm - not a good year for me so far, but maybe for others. I have been digging forks' Latin ILX playlist and should probably spend more time with the post-Fahey one. best thing about this end of the year time is that ILX reminds me about a bunch of stuff that I might need to hear. so I might change my tune in a month once I catch up with all the stuff I missed.

sleeve, Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link

i shd check out the new enya

johnny crunch, Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link

Music hasn't been the same since Randy Rhodes died IMHO.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link

a lot of albums i anticipated a lot were kinda garb

action bronson
ellie goulding (mostly)
best coast
grimes imo
1/2-ish of ldr
sleater-kinney

johnny crunch, Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link

Can we go back to where Whiney said that there were a lot of "great" albums released in 2015 and therefore 2015 was a terrible year for music because none of them were "amazing"?

this was what is known as a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_(poker)

noe love derp wev (wins), Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:19 (eight years ago) link

i did not hear any albums that really resonated w/ me this year but i guess that was mostly my fault -- i didn't listen to very many albums in general and more than usual were released over a year ago

dyl, Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:23 (eight years ago) link

albums

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link

heard a lot of good songs this year

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link

Ridiculous conceit for a thread. Don't give it oxygen. You can't ever say empirically, objectively that a year was 'good' or 'bad' for music, obviously. Just Whiney whining.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:36 (eight years ago) link

I've had t he busiest work year ever and been raising a baby and I've still found more than enough really good / great / amazing music to listen to. And now I'm not even trying to write about music anymore I'm completely free to ignore and explore as I wish, rather than trying to keep up with trends or developments or scenes or whatever.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:40 (eight years ago) link

history getting written by the whiners

motörhead - or gaz, matron? (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2015 08:27 (eight years ago) link

Cardinal Fuzz still seem to be delivering the goods.
I got Minami Deutsch through them too, though i think it originates elsewhere. & that is pretty great
Was Kikagaku Moyo this year or last year?

& there have been some awesome reissues. Astral Weeks remaster widespread availability for the first time in 28 years.
The Velvet Underground stuff is great too.

I think there are a lot of others I''m not immediately thinking of too

Stevolende, Thursday, 26 November 2015 08:29 (eight years ago) link

feeling what the frogs wrote e.g. I heard at least 3 or 4 records from africa alone that I would call amazing, and I know that as a dilettante who's basically being spoonfed the stuff that I'm not even scratching the surface there

motörhead - or gaz, matron? (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2015 08:33 (eight years ago) link

obviously a troll thread but even aside from my usual view that there's no such thing as a good or bad year, there are just years where the best stuff aligns with where you're already looking and years where you have to look around and maybe fail...even aside from that i'm pretty comfortable saying 2015 has been one of the best years for music in my lifetime. maybe even the best. this after 2014 which was maybe the first year i felt disappointed at the time.

a lot of artists really stepped it up or brought their best selves to the game this year, and many of them did so in ways which wrongfooted and, yes, amazed me - the feeling of an artist i already lived being even greater than i thought they were has happened several times in 2015.

- did critically acclaimed artists' follow-ups meet or exceed expectations? it seems by this measure the answer is 'yes.' just quickly looking thru p4k BNM and bjork, grimes, dre, aphex twin, sleater kinney, etc etc all passed the test
- did the year produce any new artists of acclaim? i think by this measure, the answer is 'no.' i didn't see any debuts scanning the p4k BNMs, and off the top of my head can't think of any new artists i hadn't heard of before 2015 that i fell in love with.

this is a pretty ~scientific way of looking at it (and ignores the vast swathe of artists between "critical consensus picks" and "brand new artists" which is usually where the amazing stuff happens) but re: the latter, i thought the debuts from years & years, abra, rae sremmurd, helena hauff, nozinja, flava d, jlin and natasha mosley were all really great (first five "amazing").

if any area was disappointing it was mainstream pop tbh, lots of big pop stars took the year off and the gomez/lovato/bieber generation didn't exactly step up to make statement albums (great singles from selena and demi though). years & years was a great mainstream pop album but they're hardly global megastars yet and i never emotionally clicked with CRJ as much as most (i find it easier to admire than love). still, hyped for rihanna tomorrow!

lex pretend, Thursday, 26 November 2015 09:04 (eight years ago) link

and obviously there was a lot of bad music released, much of which is dominating the EOY lists, but i didn't feel like i was severely disappointed by many artist i had high expectations for in 2015 - kacey musgraves and ciara, i guess

lex pretend, Thursday, 26 November 2015 09:09 (eight years ago) link


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