i feel like i've been playing persona 4 for ages and ages and ages all the time and i have had it three weeks and have twenty hours on my save file. i think time spent playing videogames passes differently to how it did when i was fourteen
― thomp, Monday, 6 April 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
the emphasis on the quotidian in persona 4 is fantastic. i think my summary of the first dungeon above made the game sound way more kinetic + eventful than it actually is
there's a kind of actual emotional weight in e.g. the game making you come home every day and see your 8yo cousin sat in exactly the same place watching the same tv shows because her father's too devoted to his work
this is also the first game in which i have attempted to ask a character for her phone number right out, been told my courage stat is too low, and had to find an excuse to make it look like i need it instead
― thomp, Monday, 6 April 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i have basically the exact opposite problem like oh wow wtf happened to saturday
ha maybe thats why i couldnt vibe p4 as hard? it is a quotidian as a game about using elaborate anime guardians to battle shadow monsters can be, i guess? thats actually one of my fave things about p3/4 tho the fact that you can easily spend a week in gameplay terms just going to school, hanging with friends, going back to the dorm, running track, playing games at the arcade and studying for exams and all of these have equal weight to the times where u and yr crew have to stand tall cause the shadows are long and the moon is full
i guess its natural because im playing it now but i keep comparing persona to star ocean 4 and its interesting - the combat in SO4 is way deeper and more challenging on a strategic level than persona but the game is way less satisfying. persona has to be one of the first rpgs to make me realize how much a strong, involving story can do for a game and now im annoyed when developers try to pass off retardo-twee cliches and stilted exposition as "moving" "cinematic" ideas to hang a game on
haha i was considering doing a max your s.link/100% completion guide to this and was wondering like: i get why ppl read/want walkthroughs and to know what the best answers are, how to boost academics &c but what do the ppl following my 100% single playthrough guides getting out of the game?
― Vormärz Heart, Our Youth is Broken (Lamp), Monday, 6 April 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Got P3:fes used for $20 today. Did they leave the japanese language track on here or must I suffer bad Anglo voice actors?
― kingfish, Monday, 13 April 2009 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link
no japanese language track, unfortunately. fans have made "undub" discs with the japanese audio & english subtitles, but you'll need to have swap magic or something to make it work.
i gave in and played the extra bit in P4.
― zappi, Monday, 13 April 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Can you even turn the voice acting off? Persona IV is much better for having found the option to do that. ALthough it is a little odd when the new guy in the party starts talking in battles and I find myself going "WHat? He doesn't sound like that"
― thomp, Monday, 13 April 2009 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
have come back to this after an ill-thought-out diversion into playing fahrenheit and silent hill 2 and reading poetry and shit
q.: i have reached the summer holidays. does the game calendar run into the next term, or is that it, for the going to school bit? will i have to reload an old save if i decide i want to see the end of the annoying drama chick's plotline?
― thomp, Thursday, 11 June 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah. u can check the calendar in game to see what day is back 2 school for planning s.links
― ho hum i'm having a fantasy (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't like the overly structured day periods.
― kingfish, Thursday, 11 June 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, that's what put me off the game.
― Want some guap-a-mole or salsa with your chips? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 June 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
wusses
also, thank you, i have now ceased wondering if i have had my last chance to talk to an annoying drama chick. this is a little too much like my actual high school experience oh well
― thomp, Thursday, 11 June 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
2 things
1. mitsuo's dungeon is fantastic on a good two and a half levels2. becoming kind of apparent that the animated cut scene stuff went to more than one studio — some of it is really slick but the occasional shot (one of the first ones after teddie shows up in the real word, e.g.) is on some kind of 70s hannah-barbera tip
― thomp, Thursday, 11 June 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
p3 cut scenes were better than p4 i think. tbf i totally loved the structured nature of the game it gave the ocd/superorganized side of me pleasure actually
haha here's the s.link calendar i made for p3:
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt305/a-zA-Z0-9-/persona3calendar.jpg
see i loved planning that stuff out but its not for everyone
― ho hum i'm having a fantasy (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit
― Want some guap-a-mole or salsa with your chips? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link
tht is next level :D
I love this game and really need to get back to it but damn if ps2 games not look horrible on hd sets
― cozwn, Friday, 12 June 2009 09:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i also like the structured days but i haven't made any spreadsheets
it kind of helps to get rid of the typical videogame time impasse, where you get the feeling that the entire world is waiting for you to do your next notable action and things will not change until then
this can only work 'cause the game's world is so small, i guess
i looked at an faq and saw there are several months of game time left
i just found out i'm losing my job, otoh i may actually have time to finish this game now
― thomp, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Today's random jrpg observation is from playing Suikoden IV: I always like games where you get a stronghold, to hold all your shit and/or people you pick up along the way. The thing I dig about this game is that your stronghold is your ride. Instead of the usual FF-style airship, you actually get a boat w/ which you need to defend tactically.
― kingfish, Monday, 15 June 2009 07:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know if I should be put off by the fact that I enjoy the jrpg mechanic WAY too much. Then again, rpgs have been my favorite kind of game since playing Ultima: Exodus or Ultima V 20 years ago.
I mean, shit, I get bored with one jrpg, there's always 3 more to try, and there's like God knows how many such games for the snes/sega/GBA/etc
On a related note, on a whim I've started playing Secret of Mana, since I always wondered what the deal was with people reffing Seiken Densetsu 3 alla time.
― kingfish, Monday, 15 June 2009 07:40 (fourteen years ago) link
SoM is great for a lot of reasons, but a good portion of the magic is that it allowed 2-3 player CO-OP(!) RPG play in the SNES era which was wonderful. I always mean to play SD3, though, only touched it for maybe an hour.
― Nhex, Monday, 15 June 2009 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Can we have a general random jrpg observations thread? I see myself spending a lot of time on such things in the weeks to follow :|
― thomp, Monday, 15 June 2009 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link
TOTALLY agree w/ this, which is why the Suikoden games are pretty much the only "genre" games I still enjoy!
― Aieritating vowele syndroume (Will M.), Monday, 15 June 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Have we posted this yet? http://megaten.aeriagames.com/
SMT the MMO
― kingfish, Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4WyHe-HRM
― andrew g. vajna (cozen), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
dammit, strange journey has way too much grinding. i got to the end boss and it killed me in one hit. i spent 5 hours grinding and now it kills me in 2. this would have been great as a 20 hour game + bonus quests but at 60+ hours it is way too long.
― Mosquepanik at Ground Zero (abanana), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
At 18 hours in (and with P3P on its way to take up my time!) that is not what I wanted to hear.
― if, Thursday, 29 July 2010 07:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, have to admit that I've stalled out on strange journey as well.
― original bgm, Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i didnt mind but its p much the only game ive played all year so
― TEEN LESBIAN (Lamp), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, same here actually.
I got frustrated by the dark rooms in delphinus (sp?) that also had conveyor belts. didn't realize I had to go back to the ship and build an app and got hella lost/frustrated.
prob due for a second wind by now.
― original bgm, Friday, 30 July 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I've just done that bit and thought they made it almost too obvious that you had to go back! Maybe I just happened to stumble across the right people to talk to.
― if, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
haha it probably was really obvious. my playtime had gotten very fragmented at that point, so I would boot the game up after two weeks and be like, "umm... I think I'm supposed to do this now..."
― original bgm, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Persona 4 remake announced for Vita with "new characters, movie events, animated scenes, and more. It will include 1.5 times the amount of voice-overs seen in the PS2 version. Marie, voiced by Kana Hanazawa, is one of the new characters."
also .... a 2D fighter(!) for 360/PS3/Arcade "has a new story that takes place two years after the events of Persona 4. Characters from Persona 4 and Persona 3 will feature in the game."
and finally basic prep has finished for Persona 5, no platform details though.
― zappi, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
lol, had to look up what a "vita" even is
― original bgm, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
lol me too
― am/sand (Lamp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
you can watch 1st episode of P4 anime here http://www.theanimenetwork.com/Anime/Persona-4/Episode-1/Watchits pretty much a straight retelling with english subs - supposed to be another 20+ episodes?!
― zappi, Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
persona 4 arena, who's gonna get it for ps3 and fight with me?
― adam, Thursday, 9 August 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
i was hoping someone would be posting something about strange journey to motivate me to pick it up again
― thomp, Thursday, 9 August 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
haha me too
― zappi, Thursday, 9 August 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
should i buy strange journey or devil survivor (or radiant historia)
― adam, Monday, 20 August 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
devil survivor's story manages to be at the same time embarrassingly animu~/awful and, like, actually kind of fucked uppedly depressing. the game parts of it are pretty amazing though, sort of ff tactics + pokemon + each unit is 3 units so you get some crazy tag teams running around.
haven't played strange journey but i kinda want to. never really gotten into that FPS dungeon style though.
― #1 Thwartstop Prospect (Will M.), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Read this whole thread again and now I basically need to find a way to play Persona 4 again, I never got very far and now I realize it is basically the only video game I want to play right now. Soooo any MTLers have a not-broken PS2/that game? :(
― #1 Thwartstop Prospect (Will M.), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
animu like persona animu or animu like eternal sonata animu?
most relatively recent pcs should be able to run pcsx2, which is way easier to set up than its ps1 predecessor.
― adam, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
yet to play eternal sonata. it is pretty persona-ish in that it minute-to-minute manages to jump between "god this is some dumb atlus boobs and giggles stuff" and "oh man this is actually kind of depressing" but the nadirs are nadirier and the peaks aren't as peaky.
it doesn't matter though because the SRPG + persona blending (What do they call it again? splicing or whatever?) = maximum enjoyment.
― #1 Thwartstop Prospect (Will M.), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
persona 4 vita is so good. i am going to play it for 1000 hours this weekend.
― adam, Friday, 15 February 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
don't think there's a midnight channel irl
― abanana, Friday, 15 February 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
how much extra stuff was added to P4V? on the fence about buying it, already played through P4 on PS2 twice, but 3 years ago now.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 15 February 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
per the somethingawful thread:
-Improved Graphics-Choose which skills Personas inherit-Two new Social Links: Marie and Adachi-New Personas, as well as third tier Personas for party members (Unlocked by reaching Rank 10, then spending time with them again after 1/10)-New difficulty levels (Very easy, easy, normal, hard, very hard)-More Voice acting-New animated cutscenes-New areas (Beach and a ski resort, Okina City, increased access to Inaba at night)-New events (Halloween, Skiing!)-BIKES! (You can get around town on motorbikes, and your party members learn new skills by going on Bike dates with you)-Tag Team attacks-Wi-Fi features. Use SOS to connect to other players, gaining HP and SP depending on how many you connect with. Furthermore, you can also see what other players are doing at the same time of the game you’re at.-Gardening! (Which gets you items that can do things like cast Makarakarn)-Bug Catching Mini-game (Use them as bait for the Fishing Mini-game!)-A Quiz show mini-game-Scene Skip-The game is extended to February 24th (so long as you avoid the bad endings)
― adam, Saturday, 16 February 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
just murdering dudes in mitsuo's dungeon right now. those tag team attacks are great--sometimes after an all-out attack (in my party) chie and yukiko will automatically do a decent bit of damage to all enemies, usually wiping them out. and they're like "yukiko, it's time!" "okay chie!" and it makes me think of "computer blue" off purple rain
― adam, Saturday, 16 February 2013 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for that, even more indecisive now! can you run about town or is it all menus like P3P? that was a bit of a turnoff for me.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 16 February 2013 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
you can run around, the vita's got a little more juice than the psp.
while we're on this topic, is it worth playing through p3: FES? i put way too much time into the original p3 but bought FES off the psn store anyway.
― adam, Saturday, 16 February 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah and choosing the inherited skills is MASSIVE. i was getting hosed in the rise boss fight (getting hit with constant agilao/bufula) so i went and fused myself a persona with native null ice and tacked on an inherited null fire. so satisfying.
― adam, Saturday, 16 February 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link