the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

then there's the diverging branch where ILM continued into the computer animation era but also managed to spin off Pixar

THX, too.

None of which of course is a reason why he should take up the reins again.

that strange magic rabbit is creepy as fuck

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-lucas-on-why-he-is-done-directing-star-wars/

oh, OTHER people don't get why the movies are entertaining

tbh it's pretty funny that he framed it as a drama about family problems when his editor for the films people actually liked was his ex-wife

Is his ex-wife, was his wife.

"When you break up with somebody, the first rule is no phone calls. The second rule, you don't go over to their house and drive by to see what they're doing," he said laughing. "The third one is you don't show up at their coffee shop and say you are going to burn it... You just say 'Nope, gone, history, I'm moving forward.'"

I feel like there's a story George wants to tell here. But like the rest of his stories, we're better off without.

That's a meme that really needs to die. Marcia Lucas was one of three credited editors on Star Wars, and wasn't even the primary editor; Paul Hirsch was. She wasn't credited at all on Empire; Hirsch was the only credited editor. And on Jedi she was again one of three credited editors.

In fact Hirsch and Richard Chew edited the great majority of Star Wars, aided by an uncredited George Lucas; Marcia worked mostly on the Death Star battle which, admittedly, she turned from an incoherent mess into something great.

Nonetheless, it's another brick in a very, very stupid wall which is supposed to support the idea that Lucas had nothing to do with the success of the OT.

Perhaps by editor I mean to say "she told George his ideas were bad over dinner"

Your familiarity with the word 'credited' leads me to suspect you are familiar with its dark side 'uncredited'?

More seriously have you seen the article upthread about her contributions? It seems fairly convincing that she was working on Empire.

Bah iPhone-caused xp

Someone who could share opinions with him versus a room full of people who can't tell him to his face that "Darth Icky" is a bad idea

Since I used the word "uncredited," yes, I'm fairly obviously familiar with it. Which is why I said Marcia wasn't credited on Empire, not that she didn't work on it.

we can be pedants, or we can meditate on the pure badness of "Darth Icky"

Yeah, that's the iPhone - Safari doesn't show you what's been posted since you started writing a response.

It's a pretty small wall though - out of a thousand people, would you reckon there'd be even one who could put together a coherent argument that George Lucas was incidental to Star Wars? I'd be surprised if you got fifty who know who Marcia Lucas is.

Maybe Michael Kaminski is largely overstating her role, and maybe the only reason for that is to diminish George's role (though I don't think the book does that). But I'm not sure that the owner of one of the largest franchises in history as the rebels and someone who's given one interview in 32 years as the Empire really works :)

But we can all agree on Icky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBzJF_-cBA

http://upl.stack.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ickey-shuffle-o-2.gif

GEORGE NOOOOO

I'm sure there will be nothing about family or any family-related drama in this movie. All spaceships shooting at stuff.

how many hours of nonstop spaceships shooting at stuff and lightsaber battles sans any backstory whatsoever would this have to be before opening night crowds walked out? Nine? Ten?

just saw this Phantom Menace deleted scene for the first time. i laughed.

so a jedi friend of theirs dies in front of them, and they spend time whimsically pondering their next action

FAMILY

I'm still wound up by the idea George Lucas thinks he has a better grasp on plotting characters with relationships and families than the people who now own Star Wars

George Lucas is now reminding me of the guy who graduated last year but still hangs around the high school a lot. LET IT GO, GEORGE.

attending a party at his ranch in a few weeks, anyone got any questions they want me to ask him

already got "When is the sequel to Red Tails coming out????!???" covered

how about an animated reboot of howard the duck?

ooh good idea

Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.

Maybe he has! He just doesn't like the bit where you show them to people.

I'll ask to see some. Preferably in his "greatest movie theater in the world"

ok, i like the idea that george lucas has become an inverse howard hughes, holed up in his mansion, endlessly filming movies for nobody but himself. there could be dozens of these smaller, more experimental films. hundreds, even. no guesses on the jars of urine though.

ask him if he ever goes back to Modesto

can someone tell george lucas why not?!?

Find out his thoughts on individual building meter data, duh

^^^^^^^^^^^

Will there be a special edition release of the holiday special?

jar jars of urine

excellent Kasdan interview here

"I had just taken six months to write RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK from scratch. I handed it in, and George said, ‘do you want to write EMPIRE STRIKES BACK?’ Literally, he threw it on the desk and asked me to write EMPIRE. He said, ‘We’re in big trouble. Leigh Brackett [who wrote the first draft] has passed away. They’re building sets in England. And I don’t have a script.’ I said, ‘Maybe you ought to read RAIDERS first.’ He said, ‘I’m going to read it tonight, and if I don’t like it I’ll call you back tomorrow and take back this offer.. “George said to me, ‘Darth Vader is Luke’s father.’ And I said, ‘No shit?’ "

http://www.wired.com/2015/11/lawrence-kasdan-qa/

haha

George once said to me, “oh, Ben is not a Jedi master.” I said, “what?” And he said, “yeah, he’s not really a master. A master is this and this.” And I said, “you’re out of your mind.”

so a jedi friend of theirs dies in front of them, and they spend time whimsically pondering their next action

the thing is it could have been a deliciously bond-esque scene, baseball signs and everything, if directed with any urgency whatsoever

he forgot to say "faster and more intense"

I don't think anyone necessarily said the dude was incidental to the first three, but rather that he had fairly strong collaborative feedback control system, if you will, surrounding him that was able to edit and select and shape the random neural firing out of his brain into something better.

Actors on his first film would supplement or override his direction. DePalma reportedly cut down and reshape for the opening crawl. His wife and others literally edited the stuff. Guys like Gary Kurtz were there to call him on his shit and get in fights over it if need be(and who acrimoniously quit during the pre-production of Jedi).

Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.

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you've heard of nathaniel dorsky, right?

have you ever seen nathaniel dorsky and george lucas in the same room?

i didn't think so....

"deliciously bond-esque" is not a good match for these films (or any films) though.

Skywalker Ranch is p odd. Japanese-style architecture, "attendants" waiting to direct you to your destination at every several hundred feet, a statue of yoda in the courtyard, tons of old original movie posters, and original Mucha of Sandra Bernhard (this was probably the thing I was most interested in). His private movie theater was showing "White Christmas", nice velvet seats.

George did not appear to hold forth on the many experimental films he has under development