the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

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I'm thinking he could probably put THX-1139 on YouTube, there might be a deal there.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

its almost as if the movie going public has been dumbed down from decades of Star Wars-inspired SFX crap

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

I think I posted it on another thread, but there was an interview where he made some comments about the corrupt nature of the studio system, racism in casting, and his opting out of different organizations that were fairly on-point, but then he had to keep harping on about how he was above these problems and blamed the lack of success of Red Tails on the system. He couldn't understand why a George Lucas product was not successful.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

bigger lol at the idea that ANY film by george lucas wouldn't draw some interest...

Ahem

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Strange_Magic_poster.jpg

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, did that happen?

how's life, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

Easy, you deserved love.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

i honestly never heard of it!

Lucas had been working on developing the project for 15 years before production began. Touchstone Pictures released Strange Magic on January 23, 2015[4] and became a critical and commercial failure. The film's opening weekend box office debut of $5.5 million is one of the worst ever for a film opening at 3,000+ theaters.

i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

On the film's plot, director Gary Rydstrom stated, "We pitched it as a Beauty and the Beast story where the Beast doesn't change."

Shrek is a 2001 American computer-animated fantasy-comedy film produced by PDI/DreamWorks, released by DreamWorks Pictures

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

(sry for spoilers)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

Strange Magic was horribly marketed, and by all accounts it was also a horrible movie. I sincerely wonder what the heck Lucas has in mind when he thinks "I've got an experimental film in me, waiting to be made."

Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

Star Wars was pretty experimental, in the strictest sense of the word.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

"American Graffiti"s nonstop rock 'n roll soundtrack was pretty radical in '73 too

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

the miniature/special effects shots in Star Wars were pretty out there for the time

to the point where a ton of other films used Industrial Light and Magic for their films, including Star Trek

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link

then there's the diverging branch where ILM continued into the computer animation era but also managed to spin off Pixar

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

THX, too.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

None of which of course is a reason why he should take up the reins again.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

that strange magic rabbit is creepy as fuck

i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

oh, OTHER people don't get why the movies are entertaining

tbh it's pretty funny that he framed it as a drama about family problems when his editor for the films people actually liked was his ex-wife

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Is his ex-wife, was his wife.

"When you break up with somebody, the first rule is no phone calls. The second rule, you don't go over to their house and drive by to see what they're doing," he said laughing. "The third one is you don't show up at their coffee shop and say you are going to burn it... You just say 'Nope, gone, history, I'm moving forward.'"

I feel like there's a story George wants to tell here. But like the rest of his stories, we're better off without.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link

That's a meme that really needs to die. Marcia Lucas was one of three credited editors on Star Wars, and wasn't even the primary editor; Paul Hirsch was. She wasn't credited at all on Empire; Hirsch was the only credited editor. And on Jedi she was again one of three credited editors.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link

In fact Hirsch and Richard Chew edited the great majority of Star Wars, aided by an uncredited George Lucas; Marcia worked mostly on the Death Star battle which, admittedly, she turned from an incoherent mess into something great.

Nonetheless, it's another brick in a very, very stupid wall which is supposed to support the idea that Lucas had nothing to do with the success of the OT.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps by editor I mean to say "she told George his ideas were bad over dinner"

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

Your familiarity with the word 'credited' leads me to suspect you are familiar with its dark side 'uncredited'?

More seriously have you seen the article upthread about her contributions? It seems fairly convincing that she was working on Empire.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Bah iPhone-caused xp

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Someone who could share opinions with him versus a room full of people who can't tell him to his face that "Darth Icky" is a bad idea

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Since I used the word "uncredited," yes, I'm fairly obviously familiar with it. Which is why I said Marcia wasn't credited on Empire, not that she didn't work on it.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

we can be pedants, or we can meditate on the pure badness of "Darth Icky"

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that's the iPhone - Safari doesn't show you what's been posted since you started writing a response.

It's a pretty small wall though - out of a thousand people, would you reckon there'd be even one who could put together a coherent argument that George Lucas was incidental to Star Wars? I'd be surprised if you got fifty who know who Marcia Lucas is.

Maybe Michael Kaminski is largely overstating her role, and maybe the only reason for that is to diminish George's role (though I don't think the book does that). But I'm not sure that the owner of one of the largest franchises in history as the rebels and someone who's given one interview in 32 years as the Empire really works :)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

But we can all agree on Icky.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBzJF_-cBA

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

GEORGE NOOOOO

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure there will be nothing about family or any family-related drama in this movie. All spaceships shooting at stuff.

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

how many hours of nonstop spaceships shooting at stuff and lightsaber battles sans any backstory whatsoever would this have to be before opening night crowds walked out? Nine? Ten?

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

just saw this Phantom Menace deleted scene for the first time. i laughed.

aaaaablnnn (abanana), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

so a jedi friend of theirs dies in front of them, and they spend time whimsically pondering their next action

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link

FAMILY

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

I'm still wound up by the idea George Lucas thinks he has a better grasp on plotting characters with relationships and families than the people who now own Star Wars

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

George Lucas is now reminding me of the guy who graduated last year but still hangs around the high school a lot. LET IT GO, GEORGE.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

attending a party at his ranch in a few weeks, anyone got any questions they want me to ask him

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link

already got "When is the sequel to Red Tails coming out????!???" covered

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

how about an animated reboot of howard the duck?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 November 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

ooh good idea

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

Maybe he has! He just doesn't like the bit where you show them to people.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

I'll ask to see some. Preferably in his "greatest movie theater in the world"

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link

ok, i like the idea that george lucas has become an inverse howard hughes, holed up in his mansion, endlessly filming movies for nobody but himself. there could be dozens of these smaller, more experimental films. hundreds, even. no guesses on the jars of urine though.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link

ask him if he ever goes back to Modesto

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:17 (eight years ago) link


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