Praise from Luc Sante in Salon today:
http://www.salon.com/books/awards/2007/12/13/book_week_picks/index1.html
. . . "Untrue" by Burial. Shards of dance-hall music stretched and twisted until it sounds like a heap of ruins, but shot through with elegiac shafts of light. I hear jungle in this, of course, as well as, weirdly, a vein of English classical music, from Purcell to Vaughn Williams.
― three handclaps, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
i like this album. but i don't know much about techno music. i think people like it because there's always something sort of melancholy about a certain kind dance songs. like "what is love" by haddaway always seemed sad to me. lots of those eurodisco songs that are on the late night comps seems sad. this is like that except more mysterious sounding.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link
probably because it's made up of fucked up samples of such sad eurodisco
― sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
i believe you...that makes sense.... i don't even really know what eurodisco is, i've only seen in mentioned on ilm...i mean i think i know it when i hear it, like "music hall" even though i've never actually heard music hall music.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
All Saints and Ray J =/ Eurodisco.
xpost. This ain't techno Matt!
― jim, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Archangel is probably my favourite track of last year. The rest of the album relies on a similar formula too much, with much less success.
― chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Etched Headplate and Raver are also pretty good, though.
― chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't even know what techno is : (
i call everything that's vaguely sample based or electronic that's not hip hop "techno", i guess i'm probably like some guy in the 60s calling hippies beatniks or whatever
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
It's a fairly common US thing to class all electronic music as 'techno', I've noticed.
― chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
US heads care less about genre, true
― sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i think all the genres actually keep me from checking more stuff out, it's too confusing and i always feel lame for not knowing what all the nomenclature means, so i just don't even bother. it's the same reason i never bought a fall record for years, there were too many and they all had weird names and artwork and it was too imposing.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
It's that wya on purpose. It's much easier if you classify everthying as house music.
― sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Beethoven is house?
― jim, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
oh definitely
― sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
if this is your house then yes
http://www.jcraus.com.au/images/Germany1.jpg
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.djouls.com/scape/images/Pole-Steingarten_b.jpg
― sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I've made a seven track edit which is much more listenable than the whole album:
1. Archangel 2. Near Dark 3. Endorphin 4. Etched Headplate 5. Shell of Light 6. UK 7. Raver
― chap, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link
still think this is quite overrated. would rather listen to say the ukg remix of roy davis jnrs gabriel for haunting garage elegies.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
nice to have something not so christianized tho
― blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link
first album was rightly praised to the skies. this one though, just seems like partly half hearted retread of the first one, unsuccessfully trying to take it somewhere new, and trying to make 'proper' garage but not really making the transition complete and just sitting awkwardly in between. i found the vocals in particular really pretty bad.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link
for mary anne hobbs' radio one radio show, the label boss (Kode 9?) did a 15 minute mega mix of the album as a preview.
that might be a bit easier to digest if you dont like the whole album.
a search on teh interwebs usually finds the file.
this album is streets ahead of everything else I've listened to recently.
Unfortunately those streets are around Elephant and Castle.
― Hamildan, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i definitely prefer the first album
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link
this one though, just seems like partly half hearted retread of the first one
it's certainly more of the same, but how is it half-hearted? are there any 'full-hearted' retreads made one year after the first?
unsuccessfully trying to take it somewhere new, and trying to make 'proper' garage
i don't think hear any attempt to make 'proper garage' here - over-reliance on that jingling clp-clop 2 step beat maybe, but the tracks that work best with this are as good as the similar ones on the first LP (if only by sounding and being structured so similarly)
i found the vocals in particular really pretty bad.
what is the difference between the vocals on Untrue and those on tracks like 'Distant Lights' and 'U Hurt Me'. nothing of note from what i can tell.
― blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link
More Todd Edwards.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link
This album frustrates me because it's so close to something I would love. The vocals kill it for me, though. If they were just a bit less prominent in the mix, maybe with decreased volume, more "dubby" fx, and triggered less often, it would have been classic. I also wish there were more quiet interludes like the song about 3/4 of the way through (the name escapes me).
― rockapads, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link
"If they were just a bit less prominent in the mix, maybe with decreased volume, more "dubby" fx, and triggered less often, it would have been classic"
OTM
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link
the vocals are awesome, you guys smoke rocks.
― pipecock, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Pipecock otm, but then again dude's first album puts me to sleep, so I'm very glad he changed directions.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 02:14 (sixteen years ago) link
ive listened to this about 3 times. will have another go but i have to say, burial works much better for me one track at a time (in the context of a dj mix for example). an album of that shit is just too much for me.
― sam500, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Finally gave Untrue a try (the previous one didn't really click with me and this thread put me off a bit) and fuck all the haters this is ten times better than Burial. Especially because it is so 'samey' and monolithic (which seems to be the main criticism against it).
― Siegbran, Thursday, 1 May 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
"It's a fairly common US thing to class all electronic music as 'techno', I've noticed."
We're provincial that way.
― factcheckr, Thursday, 1 May 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link
The vocals are the BEST PART. The beats are fairly pedestrian 2-steppy clanks, that circulate on repeat across a number of tracks, like some broken machine flailing in vain.
The general atmosphere on the first one is way more diverse and compelling, which leaves the vox on the second being the only aspect that fascinates me.
― factcheckr, Friday, 2 May 2008 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link
The vox were overdone: Too high in the mix, and triggered too often. The drums are bad on this album, too, though. Maybe I just don't like it!
― rockapads, Friday, 2 May 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Unconfirmed DJ Kicks mix tracklist (original release date June 23rd, now sometime in July) - note: I have no idea how legit this is
Teebee - daywalker (burial remix) Amon Tobin - slowly A Guy Called Gerald - flawless Brian Eno - music for harry Burial - stairwell Burial - etched headplate (burial remix) Bong Ra - @!#$ all Future sound of London - dead cities (burial remix) dj FOOD - the crow (burial remix) A Tribe called quest - problems Fanu - for those that dream Breakage - clarendon Stranjah - g riddim Todd Edwards - holy Esthero - swallow Mary j Blige - lift it up (burial remix) Kraftwerk - Autobhan Anthony Rother - destroy him my robots Masters at work - NY soul Luke Slater - jackhammer funk Future sound of London - papa new guinea (burial remix)
― StanM, Saturday, 21 June 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
That kind of strikes me as not being at all legit. But I have a tendency for being wrong.
― jim, Saturday, 21 June 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
tracklisting leaked for burial!!!
"stir it up" - bob marley "i can see clearly now" - johnny nash "don't turn around" - ace of base "six underground" - sneaker pimps "love theme from 'last temptation of christ'" - peter gabriel "mutant jazz" - t power "we tryin to stay alive" - wyclef "here i come baby" - ub40 "emergency on planet earth" - jamiroquai "alphabet aerobics" - blackalicious "high hopes" - tali "digital" - goldie ft krs-one "tomorrow people" - ziggy marley "i can see clearly now" - johnny nash
-- moonship journey to baja, Thursday, April 24, 2008
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ this one is WAY better
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
― StanM, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I actually prefer the one with Eno, Kraftwerk, Rother, a Tribe Called Quest, Mary J Blige, Amon Tobin, etc. etc.
― stephen, Sunday, 22 June 2008 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link
eno, kraftwerk, rother? pffft alright apparently you just have a thing for bald white dudes.
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 22 June 2008 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link
8=======D ~~~ ~
― stephen, Sunday, 22 June 2008 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Marius J. Blige, exposed!
― StanM, Sunday, 22 June 2008 10:06 (fifteen years ago) link
the burial tracklist would have to be just all old rave and hardcore. with some old school DnB in it.
was just reading an old interview with him in the wire, and thats pretty much how he rolls.
― Hamildan, Sunday, 22 June 2008 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/347/
here'tis
― Hamildan, Sunday, 22 June 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link
If it is the real deal then it's great that Stairwell is finally seeing the light of day. That one tune stamps on most of his last album. Would be cool to have this on unmixed vinyl.
― Discordian, Sunday, 22 June 2008 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link
It is fake.
― jim, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
aha! So there's a real one somewhere, then?
― StanM, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Teebee - daywalker (burial remix)
Ooooh I neeeed to hear this. Badly.
― stevienixed, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
aha! So there's a real one somewhere, then? Alas no, but Kode 9 posted the concise but fairly unambiguous answer "NO" when it was posted on the dubstepforum.
― jim, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I want to hear his FSOL remixes.
― chap, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link