White trick-or-treaters in blackface: C/D?

Blackface is de facto offensive. My issue is this: should a child dressed up as Ben Wallace for Halloween be considered blackface? Exactly what does that say about how you view people like Ben Wallace that that was your first reaction to seeing the child? In my mind, this is the racist liberal issue rearing its ugly head again.

dan i think the point is that blackface is de facto offensive
-- _ (...), November 1st, 2005.

which i agree is debateable but i think most americans would agree
-- _ (...), November 1st, 2005.

Er, I'd argue that in the kid's mind it isn't.

Yes, I think that that entire line of thought is incredibly dehumanising to black people because the point SHOULD be that we are all people and therefore should get treated the same. There shouldn't be anything special or taboo about a child wanting to dress up as a highly visible and incredibly popular basketball player. Basically, by blanket-calling every single instance where someone wears makeup darker than their skin tone "blackface", you are helping to peretuate the racial divide in this country.

Finally, don't fucking tell me what I should find offensive, white boy.

And would it be offensive for a girl to dress up like a man?

face-ah.

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You know, I've been at ballparks where these are given away to all kinds of people...

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in which actual context is this not offensive?

and she was japanese, rather than chinese :((((

also i was crawling out of a "sony" brand TV which is a japanese TV manufacturer when i really should have done with say "Konka" brand, just so that i don't appear to have stereotyped Japan with the Sony brand when actualy it just happened to be a famous TV brand used to signify my cardboard box to be a TV. :((((((((((((((

i was a racist dick :(

Also wtf kind of person gives someone else shit for wearing a Negro Leagues hat?

and i sometimes wear tshirts with english writings on them :((((

I don't know that we are. Why do you think this ethan?

Honoring the Negro Leagues is obviously a good and necessary thing, but again, there's the context. It sort of irritates me in the same way as the NYFD hats worn outside of NY by people who would never be firefighters in a million years. I need to elaborate here...

Hopefully I can explain more and answer other stuff when I'm off work.

Er, I wasn't saying that image was not offensive at all in Finland. What I was saying is that the lack of black population in Finland made people ignorant of the connotations of such images. Sure, most folks would recognize it as crude caricature of a black man, but they didn't probably know about the history of such racist images, so they didn't see it that much more offensive as a caricature of, say, a Frenchman with a big nose and a beret, or an American with a cowboy hat and a revolver. So, while the image probably offended, say, Africans visiting Finland, it most likely wasn't that offensive to the majority of people because they didn't know the historical context of it.

q.v.

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Yeah, god forbid people's fashion choices go to support worthy organizations instead of purchasing their 17th Yankees hat (now in Lime Green!)...?

This movie offended me because the two hapless black voodoo victims did not end up teaming up with the lily white protagonists against the wicked creole voodoo! That would have made this so much better.

Hence my usage of words "most" and "majority".

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New Era gets the money in both cases.