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the (demo) vocal performance has more of a melancholy tinge

cf. "You only like me when you think I'm looking sad" which this album is in part rejecting. Anyway, both the demo and the album are great, it's a wonderful time to be a Grimes fan.

MatthewK, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Given the album has gotten mostly positive press I think Grimes' complaint was perhaps a little premature.

This could easily end up album of the year though my top 5 or so is now looking very clustered.

Tim F, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:37 (eight years ago) link

Not at the time she wrote that song, though. The reaction to her pop oriented material was pretty excoriating prior to Realiti.
I live this album too, but I'd be very interested to know what your other top 5 contenders are.

MatthewK, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link

*love

MatthewK, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I assume she was thinking of "Go" (though to me that song actually feels pretty sad anyway!).

Other top 5 contenders are Julia Holter, Vince Staples, Carly Rae Jepsen, HEALTH, Years & Years, Dawn Richard.

Tim F, Thursday, 19 November 2015 03:19 (eight years ago) link

Thanks - like the Staples a lot and hadn't got around to HEALTH yet.

MatthewK, Thursday, 19 November 2015 06:19 (eight years ago) link

Go is great imo but took 3-4 listens for me to really get into, maybe that hampered its chances

albvivertine, Thursday, 19 November 2015 07:22 (eight years ago) link

can we talk abt how "Easily" sounds like some underwater shimmery late 90's William Orbit production and how it's so wonderful?

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

how great wd the instrumental middle bit be as the soundtrack to like a water level in Super Mario 64

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

how great wd it be if Grimes re-scored the soundtrack to Super Mario 64

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

looks like a solid sequel to mischief makers

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

mischief makers' gameplay did have this great spacious melancholy feel

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Just realized this will be one of the first years I'll have a compatible list with Tim F. Grimes, Jepsen, Staples and Holter are also on my list and I haven't heard the others. I loved HEALTH previous albums I guess it's time to check this one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link

can we talk abt how "Easily" sounds like some underwater shimmery late 90's William Orbit production and how it's so wonderful?

― Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), jueves 19 de noviembre de 2015 17:08 (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I think it was mentioned upthread that it sounds a lot like Madonna's Ray of Light. The song I'm actually reminded the most of is "what it feels like for a girl" which wasn't produced by Orbit but it was definitely influenced by him.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 November 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

looks like a solid sequel to mischief makers

shake-shake

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 November 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

Really love this album, and I wonder how nobody is reminded to Xenomania from the 00s. "Artangels" especially is like a Girls Aloud song.

zeus, Thursday, 19 November 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link

Yeah there's a strong Xenomania circa "Graffiti My Soul" vibe.

I'm also hopeful that "Artangels" (the song) spurs a revival of interest in EMF and Big Audio Dynamite.

Tim F, Thursday, 19 November 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

ed was at the jukebox: http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=18736

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 19 November 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link

Ah, haven't seen it, thanks. Good to see the Grimes and the Susanne Sundfor song getting so much love there too.

BTW, did Claire really say that she wouldn't do producing for someone else? Because Grimes producing Nicola Roberts would be a dream collaboration.

zeus, Thursday, 19 November 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

I'm also hopeful that "Artangels" (the song) spurs a revival of interest in EMF and Big Audio Dynamite.

No, this is like that psychedelic drug from fly agaric mushrooms that they consume in Lapland - the fungi have to be eaten by reindeer to buffer the toxicity, and the drug is consumed from their urine. "Art Angels" performs the same service for Jesus Jones et al.

MatthewK, Friday, 20 November 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link

Well, it's my birthday #30 in two weeks and I'll surely be sneaking something off this album into the dj's set. Any suggestions on songs and what to pair them with?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 08:10 (eight years ago) link

"Kill V. Maim" with a Le Tigre-song from their last album?

zeus, Friday, 20 November 2015 08:22 (eight years ago) link

you mean "this island" that was released 11 years ago. Unless they released a new album this year and I'm not aware of it. Le Tigre in general is a good fit and sounds great at parties.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 08:35 (eight years ago) link

I just googled for Le Tigre's discography and the only thing they've worked on ever since 'This Island' is production for this Christina Aguilera single feat. Peaches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flmNYNQCgY

Which actually sounds like a Le Tigre song feat. Peaches. I can't hear Christina Aguilera anywhere.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 08:47 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I meant This Island.

zeus, Friday, 20 November 2015 10:27 (eight years ago) link

Well, it's my birthday #30 in two weeks and I'll surely be sneaking something off this album into the dj's set. Any suggestions on songs and what to pair them with?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), 20. november 2015 09:10 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The rhythm track from California reminds me of an indie version of Single Ladies. So those two?

Frederik B, Friday, 20 November 2015 11:31 (eight years ago) link

Yeah there's a strong Xenomania circa "Graffiti My Soul" vibe.

I was going to say that a lot of this album reminded me of Girls Aloud (Kill v Maim especially is like the sort of kitchen sink 'oh fuck it why not?' banger that would occur 3/4 of the way through a GA album), but I was too sheepish to actually do so.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 November 2015 12:01 (eight years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimes,_California

welltris (crüt), Friday, 20 November 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link

Genius says California samples Pon de Replay. So mixing those two?

Frederik B, Friday, 20 November 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link

yeah, many songs remind of other pop/rnb hits of the last years.
"Venus Fly" has a "(Girls) Run the World" vibe.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 20 November 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

Ah yes I knew there was a pon de replay sample. It isn't that obvious at first listen but could be mixed with any of the songs that used the sample.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link

silly article from the gawker biosphere: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/grimes-is-a-very-awkward-pop-star-which-makes-art-ange-1741376304

Here’s the second-best jam, “Realiti,” in slightly modified form—it first showed up in March as the teaser for another album Boucher very theatrically scrapped, because “it sucked.” (You get to love the theater of it all with her.)

wha?

flappy bird, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

there is not a pon de replay sample on california

james brooks, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

silly article from the gawker biosphere

You kidding? I thought that was a great piece. Far better than 2/3 of the bullshit reviews I have read, where I have to give up half way with my thesaurus filters clogged.
Also, hats off for The Shining carpet-pattern wallpaper:
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/09/14/magazine/14grimes2/14grimes2-articleLarge.jpg

MatthewK, Friday, 20 November 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

there is not a pon de replay sample on california

― james brooks,

As stated on her siriusXM takeover, “California” is a hate track towards the music website Pitchfork. This hate may be the result of various misinterpretations of her words, and Grimes has expressed her discontent in her tweets.

The beat of the song also samples Pon De Replay by Rihanna.

http://genius.com/Grimes-california-lyrics

Maybe you're thinking about Pon De Floor? Pon De Replay and California definitely have the same beat throughout. I'm not completely sure it's a sample but it's definitely the same beat. Only Grimes added the sound of something like a kicked bucket in there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

This is pon de replay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnhYHGimYkQ

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

In the grimes song it gets clear it's the same beat when she starts singing. 0:18 in California or so.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

It's pretty much a variation on the Diwali Riddim so you can easily mix California with the other artists sampling Diwali:

Lumidee, Sean Paul, Rihanna, Brick and Lace....

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 November 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

it's easy to happen upon that beat when programming drums without consciously referencing anything in particular, especially when you're primed to respond to it having heard it in a bunch of different places

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 20 November 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

its not a sample, is the correct argument here

it does appear to be a conscious use of the same or a similar drum pattern imo

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 20 November 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

hey now genius is such a trustworthy source

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 20 November 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link

i defer to songmeanings.net

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 November 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link

i think if anyone's a trustworthy source here it's james

j. winters (josh), Friday, 20 November 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link

Lmao Moka you're literally talking to Grimes' bf.

art baengels (monotony), Friday, 20 November 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link

Oh! Hahaha it's that James Brooks? Ok, sorry, in my defense I was saying it was a similar beat and I wasn't sure it was actually a sample. Tried looking for sources on the claim and couldn't find any other than that genius link.

So, maybe James could clear that up? Is it intentionally based on the Diwalli riddim?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 21 November 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link

sounds like a great question someone could ask her in an interview sometime

james brooks, Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:41 (eight years ago) link

wow the suspense is killing me

johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:44 (eight years ago) link

I know it isn't I was just curious. Ok, not a sample got it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link

i was serious though

james brooks, Saturday, 21 November 2015 04:12 (eight years ago) link


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