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The Torah instructs a Jew not to eat (or even possess) chometz all seven days of Passover (Exodus 13:3). "Chometz" is defined as any of the five grains (wheat, spelt, barley, oats, and rye) that came into contact with water for more than 18 minutes. This is a serious Torah prohibition, and for that reason we take extra protective measures on Passover to prevent any mistakes.

Which brings us to another category of food called "kitniyot" (sometimes referred to generically as "legumes"). This includes rice, corn, soy beans, string beans, peas, lentils, peanuts, mustard, sesame seeds and poppy seeds. Even though kitniyot cannot technically become chometz, Ashkenazi Jews do not eat them on Passover. Why?

The Smak (Rabbi Moshe of Kouchi, 13th century, France) explains that products of kitniyot appear like chometz products. For example, it can be hard to distinguish between rice flour (kitniyot) and wheat flour (chometz). Therefore, to prevent confusion, all kitniyot was prohibited.

mizzell, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm throwing myself in with the Sephardic camp this year.

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Take a Hot Dog
and make it Kosher

the drummer from the hilarious 1990's Britpop act Gay Dad (wanko ergo sum), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh makes more sense, and yes, I know the story, but I'm wondering why go so much further than just bread, I mean, Matzah is just unleavened bread, still has wheat in it and all, it's not like they didn't have enough time to cook pasta when escaping Egypt.

mehlt, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Keep hearing the spoken intro to "One Step Beyond" when I see this thread title.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Which is to say, eating corn is a long ways away from letting bread rise.

mehlt, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Keep hearing the spoken intro to "One Step Beyond" when I see this thread title.

Don't eat that - EAT THIS

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

passover is a great holiday.
G R E A T

BUT, the Haggadahs have not arrived in the mail from my grandfather yet and I'm also getting a bit nervous about seating... also, anyone have a good veggie matzoh ball soup recipe? vegetarians certainly won't eat teh brisket.

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

good god how do vegetarians ever survive during Passover without the grains?

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

apparently quinoa is ok.

mizzell, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

good to qui-know-a

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Seven days of quinoa and matzah sounds . . . constipating.

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can we turn this thread also into a list of all of the awesome things about being jewish in general?

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

1. Chosen people.
2. Latkes

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

3. Talmud

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

4. hot sabbath sex

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

5. Neuroses

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

6. control of the media/money

good god how do vegetarians ever survive during Passover without the grains?

― quincie, Monday, April 6, 2009 11:58 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This may explain my increased secularism that started around the time I became vegetarian.

mehlt, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

6. Noodle kugel

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

7. Tikkun olam as commandment

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

7. anything heimische...

suggest bánh mi (suzy), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

8. Lady rabbis (in non-Orthodox movements)

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

9. All our base

the drummer from the hilarious 1990's Britpop act Gay Dad (wanko ergo sum), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Tikkun olam is my favorite part of Judaism ever. Concept and metaphor equally awesome.

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Golders Green and St. Louis Park eruvs.

suggest bánh mi (suzy), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

10. sense of humor

cutty, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

what's the deal with "rabbi jose" btw

CNTFACE (omar little), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

11. Woody Allen movies

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

vicky cristina barcelona?

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

12. Tongue (not explicitly Jewish I know)

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

no thx

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

13. Philip Roth
14. Having an entire holiday dedicated to alcohol (Purim)
15. Klezmer

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

14. Having an entire holiday dedicated to alcohol (Purim)

^^^this

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

13. Philip David Lee Roth

fixed

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Today there's a blessing you can make on the sun that can only be made like once every 25 years. That's pretty cool.

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, klezmer wildly OTM but I find Roth totally 100% repellent.

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

according to the brooklyn paper this is only the 3rd time in history that the sun is in the same position during passover that it was when it was first created

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

^^^^ awesome

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

going to an orthodox seder as a favor to moms, not looking forward to it (mostly because it goes well past midnight, is an hour and a half away, and i have to work in the morning)

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

One sucky thing about being Jewish: Often (like this Passover), the two days of Chag run into Shabbat, which means that observant Jews (including my family) will be keeping three days straight of no electricity and such. Almost everyone always secretly cheats around the second day to take showers.

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

You can take a shower, I thought, you just can't dry off? What if you stood with your arms out until you air dried?

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Or put on a big fluffy bathrobe?

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

my dad is currently trying to make me feel guilty for not going to a sedar

iatee, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

according to the brooklyn paper this is only the 3rd time in history that the sun is in the same position during passover that it was when it was first created

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, April 6, 2009

you and i both know that there is no significance whatsoever to this, though. i read it in the paper.

he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

what did the paper say?

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

14. Tallits look comfy. Not so different from a snuggy.

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

xxpost the significance is awesomeness

iatee, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

So kosher for pesach is stricter than regular kosher, right? That would explain why the jewish bagel store down the shops had a big sign saying "NONE OF OUR PRODUCTS ARE KOSHER FOR PASSOVER PLEASE NOTE" which I didn't quite understand til now.

I've said this before, but I'm fascinated by all these traditions and rituals in Judaism. It is very odd, now I think on it, but I grew up knowing absolute zero about Jewish culture. There just werent any orthodox jews in the city I grew up in. Where I live now OTOH is an area concentrated with mainly Hassids and Lubavicts (I think thats right?).

one art, please (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

having just finished six months of judaism class i'm ready to drop science at my gf's family's passover

CNTFACE (omar little), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

hahaha... make sure you explain the whole "all the days of our lives" thing

s1ocki, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thursday night screening and concert as part of DC Jewish Film Fest

East Jerusalem, West Jerusalem

In 2013, Israeli-born folk singer David Broza crossed into the mainly Arab portion of the city of Jerusalem to record in 8 days an album with Israeli, Palestinian, and American musicians, including guitarist/producer Steve Earle. The process was filmed in and out of the studio and is the subject of the 80-minute movie East Jerusalem, West Jerusalem. The focus of the movie is on Broza’s enthusiastic effort to get Israelis and Palestinians together via song, but despite the nobility of his struggle, his well-meaning spoken and sung platitudes are less interesting here than the other musicians and the fascinating cityscape shots. In the studio, Palestinian singer Mira Awad’s vocal intonation and range is striking, and her description of how her beliefs and duet partner choices aggravate both Palestinians and Israelis conveys some of the impossibility of the situation there. Rapper Muhammad Mugrabi also shines. His wearied tales and the footage of his barbed-wire-topped, walled-in Shuafat Refugee Camp home region are heart-breaking. The film acknowledges extremists on both sides, but with the aid of Palestinian and Israeli youth singers who note the naivety of it, nevertheless figure singing in English the Elvis Costello-popularized song “What’s So Funny ‘Bout Peace, Love & Understanding,” is a step in the right direction. Broza, Awad, and Earle will do a 45-minute musical set and Q&A after the screening. Feb. 26 at Sidney Harman Hall.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 21:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

x-post-- the q and a with Broza and Awad provided some additional insight re the movie. Plus, I didn't know they really haven't gotten the movie out there--NY, DC, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and a few other screenings. I'm still not a fan of Broza's music, and his uh hammy folk song delivery (but there were many folks in DC singing along in Hebrew with him), but I do respect that he did this project (despite boycott bds threats that kept some musicians from collaborating with him) and that he keeps bringing music to the Shuafat Refugee Camp

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 14:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

Although I'm not generally a fan of Broza, he was involved in creating Hakeves Hashisha Asar, which I believe is possibly *the* greatest children's record ever made in any language.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 27 February 2015 15:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

fwiw I find a lot of israeli rock/folk/pop singers to be hammy/overly earnest in that particular way. It's odd to me because it seems like the opposite of Israeli cultural attitudes otherwise.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 27 February 2015 15:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

Interesting. Broza sang a kids song last night. I just wanted more Mira Awad, and she mostly sat and only did a few songs. In the movie and in the q and a they kept saying that Israeli Hebrew is very direct, while Palestinian Arabic tends not to be direct and to instead maneuver in a circular yet strategic way, and how both of these aspects get interpreted in political and almost racist ways. I thought some of Broza's hammy ways were just kinda stereotypical folk singer ones-- "Hey audience, sing along with this one..."

Israeli singer/musician Idan Rachel does not seem hammy, but I think he's less of a star. I only saw him in a special collaboration with Malian Vieux Farka Toure

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 16:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

Idan Raichel is good. Arik Einstein (RIP) is also not hammy at all. But there seems to be a big contingent of vaguely spiritual, vaguely "world music", very sincere Israeli singer-songwriters who are prominent.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:04 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://aeon.co/magazine/culture/the-double-life-of-hasidic-atheists

― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 February 2015 03:41 (4 days ago)

the hidden fedora beneath the shtreimel

poc het ino (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 00:59 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Mordy, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:02 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

too much time on ilx

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:02 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Hosting our first seder this year

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 March 2015 01:47 (6 days ago) Permalink

I am going to a Seder at an Episcopal church.

I keep trying to be Jewish, and failing . See also: met husband on Jdate. Dude turns out not to be Jewish.

Now Seder at a church.

Oy.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 26 March 2015 02:07 (6 days ago) Permalink

Oy veh, Mad Men seders.

Meanwhile the working class folks making matza at the Streit factory on the lower east side in NYC will be be moving their place of business to a new locale soon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/century-old-nyc-matzo-factory-faces-a-high-tech-future/2015/03/30/84ced4a2-d69b-11e4-bf0b-f648b95a6488_story.html?tid=ptv_rellink

curmudgeon, Monday, 30 March 2015 18:51 (2 days ago) Permalink

http://www.amazon.com/Everymans-Talmud-Major-Teachings-Rabbinic/dp/9562914356

This book just arrived in the mail. I am not Jewish but I have always wanted to read about the Talmud and a search on Amazon led me to this book. Has anyone read it?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

like the new testament, the talmud is the thing we use to cover up the despotic iron age horrors of the hebrew bible, even though we go along with it just the same when push comes to shove.

Arctic Noon Auk, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 17:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

a good read though. if you can stomach it.

Arctic Noon Auk, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 17:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

^ someone who has never learnt any talmud

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 17:49 (Yesterday) Permalink


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