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Yep. With family for Passover and they're huge kosher-keepers, so we're also kosher-keepers by default.

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm all for eating some matzah, but no way I'm koshering my kitchen.

Also: not actually Jewish, so technically not obligated to do shit.

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm invited to a house for passover where they'll be drinking and smoking lots of trees

Surmounter, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Haha, ditto. Possibly the same one.

What does koshering actually involve, anyway? I'm vaguely aware of boiling water and possibly some earth or dirt or something? I know you can kosher stainless steel sinks and dishwashers etc but not ceramic or enamel ones. It must be enough of a pain that people cover their counters for Passover rather than deal with it.

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 14:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

strut around with a candle looking for leavened shit

s1ocki, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

Okay so I read this thread title to the tone/pace of the sample starting Front 242's 'Welcome to Paradise.'

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

xxp

My parents fill their sinks with boiling water, then drop a burning hot brick into the water in the sink until it overflows on the counter. I think that's how they kasher their sinks. I know one guy who uses a blowtorch.

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2009 15:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

whoa

s1ocki, Monday, 6 April 2009 15:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah. You can't really blow-torch the Corian, can you. I guess I assumed you'd have to get a rabbi in for the ritual re-purification. Is that actually a DIY project? Cool!

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 15:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

We got offered a couple of really cheap apartments in a Lubavitch nabe, until they found out my roomie has a dog. But I specified that we wouldn't be a religious household, or keep kosher, and they were like, whatever, we can take care of that. So...really? The oven, too?

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 15:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Self-cleaning oven.

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2009 15:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

And yeah, this stuff can all be done DIY style. As long as you know the laws, there's nothing you need a Rabbi for.

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2009 15:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Awesome. I do love the endless ingenuity, practical AND theological.

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 15:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm celebrating Passover by saying something about it on the internet.

Zero Transfats Waller (Oilyrags), Monday, 6 April 2009 15:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

we have some matzah in the house and will probably be going to a seder. I don't bother with the kosherness, I ain't wandering in any stupid desert.

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 15:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

i really like passover, am i crazy?

cutty, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

no its usually my fave

s1ocki, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

i bought kosher for passover coke yesterday. it's delicious.

right thread, Ned (mizzell), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

ooh nice

s1ocki, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

it's like thanksgiving, in april, without bread

cutty, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

OH SHIT PASSOVER COKE. Need.

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

I am going to a seder (my first), but because the hostess can't do it on the usual night(s), we're doing it on the 18th. Pseudo-seder. But I'm still psyched. Might try to sort of keep kosher-ish just to see what it's like.

Ooooh and I'm in charge of making charoset for the pseudo-seder, so recipes pls!

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

lol i read that coke thing really wrong.
xposts

tehresa, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Also: how much hebrew vs. english at your seder?

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

I never understood why anything other than unleavened bread is necessary though? I mean no bread as a symbol/reminder of events passed makes sense, keeping kosher out of respect for the period I can see, but, like not being allowed to eat corn? What's up with that?

mehlt, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

um are you unfamiliar with the passover story or what

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh snap

s1ocki, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

During Passover, Jews refrain from eating chometz: anything that contains barley, wheat, rye, oats, and spelt, and is not cooked within 18 minutes after coming in contact with water. No leavening is allowed. This signifies the fact that the Hebrews had no time to let their bread rise as they made a hurried escape from Egypt.
Jews of different backgrounds do not observe all of the same rules. Ashkenazi Jews, who come from Europe (most Jews in America), also avoid corn, rice, peanuts, and legumes as they are also used to make bread and may have other grains mixed in. These items are known as kitniyot.

mizzell, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was anything that swells in contact with water? Or something like that. No corn syrup, in any case, which gives us delicious REAL SUGAR COKE.

guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Torah instructs a Jew not to eat (or even possess) chometz all seven days of Passover (Exodus 13:3). "Chometz" is defined as any of the five grains (wheat, spelt, barley, oats, and rye) that came into contact with water for more than 18 minutes. This is a serious Torah prohibition, and for that reason we take extra protective measures on Passover to prevent any mistakes.

Which brings us to another category of food called "kitniyot" (sometimes referred to generically as "legumes"). This includes rice, corn, soy beans, string beans, peas, lentils, peanuts, mustard, sesame seeds and poppy seeds. Even though kitniyot cannot technically become chometz, Ashkenazi Jews do not eat them on Passover. Why?

The Smak (Rabbi Moshe of Kouchi, 13th century, France) explains that products of kitniyot appear like chometz products. For example, it can be hard to distinguish between rice flour (kitniyot) and wheat flour (chometz). Therefore, to prevent confusion, all kitniyot was prohibited.

mizzell, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm throwing myself in with the Sephardic camp this year.

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Take a Hot Dog
and make it Kosher

the drummer from the hilarious 1990's Britpop act Gay Dad (wanko ergo sum), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh makes more sense, and yes, I know the story, but I'm wondering why go so much further than just bread, I mean, Matzah is just unleavened bread, still has wheat in it and all, it's not like they didn't have enough time to cook pasta when escaping Egypt.

mehlt, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Keep hearing the spoken intro to "One Step Beyond" when I see this thread title.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Which is to say, eating corn is a long ways away from letting bread rise.

mehlt, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Keep hearing the spoken intro to "One Step Beyond" when I see this thread title.

Don't eat that - EAT THIS

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 16:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

passover is a great holiday.
G R E A T

BUT, the Haggadahs have not arrived in the mail from my grandfather yet and I'm also getting a bit nervous about seating... also, anyone have a good veggie matzoh ball soup recipe? vegetarians certainly won't eat teh brisket.

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

good god how do vegetarians ever survive during Passover without the grains?

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

apparently quinoa is ok.

mizzell, Monday, 6 April 2009 16:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

good to qui-know-a

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Seven days of quinoa and matzah sounds . . . constipating.

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can we turn this thread also into a list of all of the awesome things about being jewish in general?

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

1. Chosen people.
2. Latkes

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

3. Talmud

ian, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

4. hot sabbath sex

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

5. Neuroses

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

6. control of the media/money

good god how do vegetarians ever survive during Passover without the grains?

― quincie, Monday, April 6, 2009 11:58 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This may explain my increased secularism that started around the time I became vegetarian.

mehlt, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

6. Noodle kugel

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

7. Tikkun olam as commandment

quincie, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

7. anything heimische...

suggest bánh mi (suzy), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

considering his vile slandering of Jewish ppl I doubt he will be missed

Mordy, Friday, 10 October 2014 19:02 (5 months ago) Permalink

generally confused by the piece myself

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 October 2014 19:14 (5 months ago) Permalink

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:32 (5 months ago) Permalink

Let's not forget Christian zionism was just as committed as Jewish. Isreal is the last stand and forefront of European colonialism.

Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:34 (5 months ago) Permalink

totally, well said

the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

are you jewish RT?

the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

Lots of Jews have "assimilated" over the centuries and given up identification with Jewish culture and religion, so that in itself is not particularly interesting. Sand seems like he's just crying out that reality is too much pain for him, and while I can sometimes relate to the sentiment I don't think his essay is very coherent.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:44 (5 months ago) Permalink

ok but guys the photo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

related: http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.621899

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

if it isn't clear what's going on, that's one of the Women of the Wall trying to hug an ultra-orthodox protestor

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

women of the wall ftw

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

I've been wanting to read something about capes comics and crypto-Judaism, anyone know an academic/crossover book about this or should I just get around to reading Kavalier and Clay?

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:11 (4 months ago) Permalink

I hated that book so no

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:11 (4 months ago) Permalink

there have been a lot of non-fiction on the topic published recently but i can't give a good recommendation bc i haven't read any of it. maybe look at:

http://www.amazon.com/From-Krakow-Krypton-Comic-Books/dp/0827608438/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=09WDS1ANGH5C0GMWSX27

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:14 (4 months ago) Permalink

heading out to the hazon food festival now. v cool program imo:

Session 1 workshops include:

Quick Seasonal Pickling with Marisa McClellan
Bati LeGani: Planting Sacred Space to Connect Family, G-d, and Creation with Zohar Asbel (Children’s Programming)
Vegetable Gardening with Sally McCabe
Vegan Turkey Demo with Jasmin Ilkay
Food Insecurity in Israel with Leket
Shmita 101 with Rabbi Kevin Kleinman
Food Access Advocacy Work with Robin Rifkin
Raising Children with Shmita Consciousness – A Creative Laboratory with Rabbis Martin & Kelin
Baking a Difference with Challah for Hunger (Elana Silberstein)
Antibiotics in Agriculture with Sam Bernhardt
Snapshot of Moshe: The coming of Shabbat & Manna with Rabbi Arthur Waskow
Children’s Crafts & Storytelling with JKidPhilly (Lori Rubin)

Session 2 workshops include:

Small Batch Preserving with Honey with Marisa McClellan
DIY Pickling with Phickle (Amanda Feifer)
Turkey Butchering Session with Grow & Behold
Intergenerational Cooking Program with Tina Wasserman
Sustainability Through Eradicating Animal Farming with Dara Lovitz
Olive Oil: The essence of Hanukkah with Ronit Treatman
Faith-based Partnerships to Improve Food Justice in Philadelphia with The Food Trust and Rabbi Kevin Kleinman
Partnerships for Sustainable Community Food Systems with Ryan Kuck
Shmita Cycles in the Kabbalah: Different Torahs for Different Worlds with Joel Hecker
Shmita and Pre-agricultural Food Systems with Nati Passow and Bob Pierson
The Eco-Kosher Dollar with Rabbi Arthur Waskow
Children’s Crafts & Storytelling with JKidPhilly (Lori Rubin)

Mordy, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:58 (4 months ago) Permalink

hazon festival was great

i've never heard about this chag before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigd

but since cheshvon doesn't have any other holidays i think i'm going to start observing it

Mordy, Thursday, 20 November 2014 04:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

every time this pops up in my bookmarks i hear rita moreno yelling

So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 November 2014 05:17 (4 months ago) Permalink

Occurred to me for the first time ever to ask my dad if we're eligible for German citizenship through his dad, he didn't think so but we looked it up and we are. Now I really want to do it. Having an EU passport seems potentially useful, and I can't deny the emotional power of being somehow made whole in this way.

ambergris shmambergris (silby), Saturday, 29 November 2014 00:20 (4 months ago) Permalink

i think i've mentioned my ladino speaking friend before who really wanted to take advantage of spain's offer recently idk if she succeeded

Mordy, Saturday, 29 November 2014 00:22 (4 months ago) Permalink

Anyone here have ancestors from the Bessarabia/Moldova area?

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 6 December 2014 07:09 (3 months ago) Permalink

there's also

Mordy, Saturday, 13 December 2014 22:28 (3 months ago) Permalink

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/theater_dance/artistic-director-fired-from-theater-j/2014/12/18/b6404b48-8712-11e4-abcf-5a3d7b3b20b8_story.html

Longtime theatre director at DC Jcc fired for controversial play choices

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 December 2014 04:03 (3 months ago) Permalink

Sorry to say I didn't have to read it to guess what you meant by "controversial." Disappointing that the "big donors" or whatever still can't handle this kind of thing.

man alive, Friday, 19 December 2014 04:14 (3 months ago) Permalink

Yep. Ari Roth has a great rep in the theatre world.

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 December 2014 14:23 (3 months ago) Permalink

Interstingly, the webpage for Citizens Opposed to Propaganda Masquerading as Art redirects to an Air Jordan store.

how's life, Friday, 19 December 2014 14:46 (3 months ago) Permalink

Ha

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 December 2014 15:35 (3 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

my daughter learns about the parsha + stuff at school and she has recently been coming home w/ questions about hashem. like she asked me if hashem has a mouth and i tried to explain anthropomorphism to her, but she's 3 so it was tough. (well, hashem doesn't actually have a mouth, bc hashem isn't like us at all, but he kinda has a mouth like that's how we understand it -- D's expression slowly glazing over as i explain.) she also wanted to know when hashem sleeps and we explained that hashem is always awake but does rest on Shabbos but i think that confused her as well. i chap a ton of nachus when she comes home singing something she learned at school - like "hashem is here hashem is there hashem is truly everywhere" or "hashem gave us a present, do you know what it was, he gave us the torah, so we could do its laws," but i do wonder what the concept of "hashem" could possibly mean to a 3 year old.

Mordy, Monday, 16 February 2015 15:13 (1 month ago) Permalink

"mommy" probably

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 February 2015 15:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

i guess like adults aren't any better at apprehending the existence of god

Mordy, Monday, 16 February 2015 15:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

Thursday night screening and concert as part of DC Jewish Film Fest

East Jerusalem, West Jerusalem

In 2013, Israeli-born folk singer David Broza crossed into the mainly Arab portion of the city of Jerusalem to record in 8 days an album with Israeli, Palestinian, and American musicians, including guitarist/producer Steve Earle. The process was filmed in and out of the studio and is the subject of the 80-minute movie East Jerusalem, West Jerusalem. The focus of the movie is on Broza’s enthusiastic effort to get Israelis and Palestinians together via song, but despite the nobility of his struggle, his well-meaning spoken and sung platitudes are less interesting here than the other musicians and the fascinating cityscape shots. In the studio, Palestinian singer Mira Awad’s vocal intonation and range is striking, and her description of how her beliefs and duet partner choices aggravate both Palestinians and Israelis conveys some of the impossibility of the situation there. Rapper Muhammad Mugrabi also shines. His wearied tales and the footage of his barbed-wire-topped, walled-in Shuafat Refugee Camp home region are heart-breaking. The film acknowledges extremists on both sides, but with the aid of Palestinian and Israeli youth singers who note the naivety of it, nevertheless figure singing in English the Elvis Costello-popularized song “What’s So Funny ‘Bout Peace, Love & Understanding,” is a step in the right direction. Broza, Awad, and Earle will do a 45-minute musical set and Q&A after the screening. Feb. 26 at Sidney Harman Hall.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 21:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

x-post-- the q and a with Broza and Awad provided some additional insight re the movie. Plus, I didn't know they really haven't gotten the movie out there--NY, DC, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and a few other screenings. I'm still not a fan of Broza's music, and his uh hammy folk song delivery (but there were many folks in DC singing along in Hebrew with him), but I do respect that he did this project (despite boycott bds threats that kept some musicians from collaborating with him) and that he keeps bringing music to the Shuafat Refugee Camp

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 14:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

Although I'm not generally a fan of Broza, he was involved in creating Hakeves Hashisha Asar, which I believe is possibly *the* greatest children's record ever made in any language.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 27 February 2015 15:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

fwiw I find a lot of israeli rock/folk/pop singers to be hammy/overly earnest in that particular way. It's odd to me because it seems like the opposite of Israeli cultural attitudes otherwise.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 27 February 2015 15:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

Interesting. Broza sang a kids song last night. I just wanted more Mira Awad, and she mostly sat and only did a few songs. In the movie and in the q and a they kept saying that Israeli Hebrew is very direct, while Palestinian Arabic tends not to be direct and to instead maneuver in a circular yet strategic way, and how both of these aspects get interpreted in political and almost racist ways. I thought some of Broza's hammy ways were just kinda stereotypical folk singer ones-- "Hey audience, sing along with this one..."

Israeli singer/musician Idan Rachel does not seem hammy, but I think he's less of a star. I only saw him in a special collaboration with Malian Vieux Farka Toure

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 16:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

Idan Raichel is good. Arik Einstein (RIP) is also not hammy at all. But there seems to be a big contingent of vaguely spiritual, vaguely "world music", very sincere Israeli singer-songwriters who are prominent.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:04 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://aeon.co/magazine/culture/the-double-life-of-hasidic-atheists

― the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 February 2015 03:41 (4 days ago)

the hidden fedora beneath the shtreimel

poc het ino (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 00:59 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Mordy, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:02 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

too much time on ilx

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:02 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Hosting our first seder this year

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 March 2015 01:47 (3 days ago) Permalink

I am going to a Seder at an Episcopal church.

I keep trying to be Jewish, and failing . See also: met husband on Jdate. Dude turns out not to be Jewish.

Now Seder at a church.

Oy.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 26 March 2015 02:07 (3 days ago) Permalink


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