Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

ha, did not know it was the same dude who did Babylon -- but looking at it now, it makes sense. that cover is great.

maybe dr john should've produced loaded.

that would have been great imo

yeah - you know, i was listening to Loaded this week and wondering if they ever considered using a horn section. don't know if it would've worked, but there are a few places where it seems like that's kinda what they're going for.

The horns on "How Do You Think It Feels?" would sound right at home on, say, "Head Held High."

yeah, wouldn't have sounded too out of place on something like Train Round the Bend

Soooooooo now that I've worn through the Matrix discs, are we gonna see a stand-alone release of the 1969 studio sessions?

http://cdn.discogs.com/9bXHdjkfMo1rb870yXyxLeZEboU=/fit-in/350x216/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-3988067-1351512972-7528.png.jpg

It makes no sense but I would dig a Dr John/John Cale collaboration where they both just get really drunk and let 'er rip, Gil et Jorge style

Xpost Yeah like that one, except with all the songs from those sessions, and using the mixes from the s/t Super Deluxe version and available separately instead of as part of a boxed set. Otherwise just the same.

Might have to wait for the 50th anniversary from them to break that stuff out (or get it's own box).

a standalone 1969 release would render that 45th anniversary 3rd album set totally redundant pretty much... really is annoying now that there are two discs of matrix stuff on that set when they could've filled those discs w/ some of the boston tea party recordings from 68 and 69. sound quality of those is not fab, but they're better than the second fret show on the loaded box set anyway.

Sessions for the lost 4th Album (50th Anniversary Super Duper Deluxe Edition)
Disc 1: the 1969/2014 mixes
Disc 2: the 1969/2014 mixes (mono)
Disc 3: the Sundazed "1969"
Disc 4: V.U (original 1984 version)
Disc 5: V.U. (Special 80s-style mono mixes)
Disc 6 & 7: Another View (ditto)
Disc 8: highlights from End of Cole Ave
Disc 9: the Honeymoon Acetate (truncated)

haha yeah... maybe a disc's worth of the "Velvets Roadie Jam" from Cole Ave too!

gotta say that the Sundazed sequencing for the 1969 sessions seems all off to me ... obviously just a matter of trainspotter taste.

also i prefer some of the 80s mixes! so there!

I'm all about the "shot em all let God pick the rest" attitude towards boxsets

or however that saying goes

really is annoying now that there are two discs of matrix stuff on that set when they could've filled those discs w/ some of the boston tea party recordings from 68 and 69. sound quality of those is not fab, but they're better than the second fret show on the loaded box set anyway.

― tylerw

yep even tho I knew it would be reissued it is still super annoying that they didn't use something like the guitar amp tape instead

really is annoying now that there are two discs of matrix stuff on that set when they could've filled those discs w/ some of the boston tea party recordings from 68 and 69. sound quality of those is not fab, but they're better than the second fret show on the loaded box set anyway.

― tylerw, Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agreed. I decided to pass on the Loaded box after hearing a clip of the Second Fret show (which sounds like it was recorded from a passing car as it drove by the club possibly, but not likely, while the Velvets were onstage), and I never could grok Max's Kansas City due to Billy Yule's overplaying.

The first two boxes got it right re: unreleased live stuff (even if the WL/WH set was overpriced for how little it contained).

gotta say that the Sundazed sequencing for the 1969 sessions seems all off to me ... obviously just a matter of trainspotter taste.

― tylerw, Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also i prefer some of the 80s mixes! so there!

― tylerw, Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes and yes. VU to me is flawless and canon; 1969's running order doesn't cut it.

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Yes, "1969" is wrong, but the art/sleeve/package is alright, if you manage to get one not in the box set like I did.

yeah i think having all that 1969 material in one place is the right idea, but the execution of it so far has been a little lacking. the art is cool! i like those groovy shirts the VU are wearing.

The next boxset will come with replicas of those shirts.

GROOVY.
I've actually always wanted to know where that photo shoot took place... is the LA Zoo or something?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uMCca4v7Myc/UyMN4QnQ8CI/AAAAAAAAI-0/qT64Vl0M-rA/s1600/front+1.png

not sure if this is the thread for a q like this or not but here goes anyway
looks like my erstwhile VU jam is going to be revived, and i need some new-to-me live VU jams to listen to. what is my best bet for highest concentration of long groovy tracks (i have live 1969 LP but i need something i can burn to CD to listen to in the car)?

you have these bootlegs? long jamz galore:
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/72879443131/the-velvet-underground-the-boston-tea-party
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/82918200243/sweet-sister-rayns-heroin-more-invisible-hits

i don't - how's the sound?

crappy!
well it varies ... but if you haven't heard it, i think "sweet sister ray" would be right up your alley.

hm. ok -- any recommendations of recordings that are less muddy?

well, the Matrix set :D

maybe the Gymnasium set as well? Or the Hilltop gig?

yeah, the matrix set is your best bet in terms of non-muddy recordings (fair amount of crossover w/ live 1969 of course). the end of cole avenue bootleg too, though there actually aren't too many long jams on that one.

ok thanks dudes!

all annoyance with how they rolled out the matrix tapes aside, good lord, those four discs are so good.

are the Matrix Tapes sold out everywhere? (new copies at the retail price)

i just looked and you can get mp3s on amazon for $24 which seems ok enough esp if the sound is superior to other live recordings

yeah I saw that - seems like a decent price! I was looking for the CD boxset for a gift - can't find them.

yeah I think it is all sold out at the moment

there are used copies on amazon but they're $172!?

it'll be repressed soon, I would assume.

yeah doesn't seem like the kinda thing that would be "limited"... but i guess the fact that it is selling well bodes well for more VU trainspotter gouging.

well, the Matrix set :D

And how!

I see it new for $30 on Amazon....

well I just tried ordering one, will report back

WTF

Condition: Used - Like New - Sealed item. Like NEW. 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee.

so maybe I bought a used copy? confusing.

Condition: New - BRAND NEW, Factory Sealed items direct from the Studios. 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee.

I've actually always wanted to know where that photo shoot took place... is the LA Zoo or something?

Bob Egan of popspotsnyc.com claims that it was in the Ferndell Nature Trail section of Griffith Park, near the junction of N. Western Ave. and Los Feliz Blvd., though he admits he's a bit "speculative" about it. If true, that would be in the vicinity of where The Byrds' Mr. Tambourine Man LP cover photo was taken. The photographer was Sanford Schor.

ha, so the LA Zoo wasn't toooo far off. is the waterfall still there? i spent a lot of time in griffith park as a kid, but don't think i ever saw anything like that...

Don't know, I live in New York