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Could just be my mood, but the perkiness of this is cutting right through me.

Visions conveyed that same sense of joy, but muted it, and that record's character came from how her enthusiasm fought its way to the surface of these sort of sad songs. It was like the songs had to fight their way out of their shell, and when they did it felt really satisfying and earned. But when her songs start at full-blast, level 10 giddiness, they lose that sense of accomplishment.

Evan R, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

Obviously some great stand-out songs here, though. Just dunno how much I'll be able to take this in as an album

Evan R, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

"this album sounds like pop music so it MUST have been written by a bunch of other people" is an incredible bit of logic

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 November 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

"I liked it better when she didn't quite know what she was doing" isn't a gendered observation afaic.

Some friends of mine are moving into self-production, and my comments on their mixes were always "quit trying to prove to me that you know what you're doing"

I think this record is OK on first couple listens and will vastly improve when there's video. There were def no ghost-writers or ghost-producers on this

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Friday, 6 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

i think that's a really good observation evan. this record does feel less dynamic than visions

the demo version of "realiti" is much much better than the album version and is just generally one of her best songs tho yeah

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 November 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

oh i'm also really bad at hearing autotune but i hear zero autotune on this record

"Kill V. Maim" reminds me of Gwen Stefani's "Bubble Pop Electric," haha.

jaymc, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

I read in an earlier interview the she sampled a few obscure Japanese songs for some of the tracks on here. I'd be curious as to what they were.

MarkoP, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

I assume the beginning of Butterfly is one of the samples.

MarkoP, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

kill v maim (!!). I like the vox on this, quite a few of these songs will be great live

ogmor, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link

I'm only as far as Belly of the Beast but this album has hooks coming out of its arse wtf.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link

this feels like saturdays felt like when I was a kid

ogmor, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

i think the highs on visions are a bit above the highest ones here, but this one seems more cohesive/of a piece

slothroprhymes, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

holy shit @ 'kill v. maim'

NATION: ? ? ? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 6 November 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link

it was really bothering and theyre not actually that 1-for-1 but the riff @ the start of SCREAM sounds similar to gomez - 'shot shot' 2 me

johnny crunch, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

First impressions are that this is a bit too long and somewhat heavily front loaded but that first half is such a rush.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

i'm having such a hard time connecting with this album and it's breaking my heart since visions has become one of my favorite albums of all time. there's just not a lot on here i can immediately latch on to whereas visions was instant and took over all of 2012 for me.

j. winters (josh), Friday, 6 November 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

realiti is not quite as different as i expected based on the comments here, its basically still the same song to the point where the familiarity of the version you heard first probably overrides the actual substance of the differences

ciderpress, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

So I ordered this from 4ad, thinking that I'd get access to a digital copy today, but it's not looking that way. Do I really get to* wait until December when they ship the CD to hear it.

*trying to stay positive =/

austinato (Austin), Friday, 6 November 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link

"Kill V. Maim" reminds me of Gwen Stefani's "Bubble Pop Electric," haha.

― jaymc,

Much of this album sounds more like Stefani than the last one.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 November 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

also agree w/ holy shit @ 'kill v maim' thats a pretty huge highlight

ciderpress, Friday, 6 November 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

i am....not feeling kill v. maim

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 November 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

it's the soundtrack to the industrial mega man level of my dreams

only at "kill v maim" so far but yeah this is remarkably...shiny and clean?

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 6 November 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

my sympathies to the disappointed but i can't believe no one is in raptures about how good this is. it's much brighter than I expected & so percussive with it, towards the end of the album especially. i always enjoyed grimes from a mumbler's perspective, and that's gone, but her vocals on this are righteous. i can't remember instantly loving an album this much. the melisma in "what do you me-an?" is just like the way arthur russell sings "leave it a-lone" on lucky cloud & just as perfect. she has nailed this.

ogmor, Friday, 6 November 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

also that bit of kill maim sounds so much like "gucci gucci"

ogmor, Friday, 6 November 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

i'm not quiiiiiiiite loving this as much as expected, but it might sound better in my car/over my stereo than these crappy headphones

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 6 November 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

listen to grimes in yr car, good plan

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 6 November 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

choreographing a dance to "kill v. maim" brb

Also just listened on rubbish headphones that just accented the trebliness of the record, but there are at least three great songs on here: "Flesh Without Blood", "Easily" and "Butterfly". Couldn't hear what was so amazing about "Kill V. Maim", my least favourite on first play.

(Full disclosure - I never really got into Visions.)

Jeff W, Friday, 6 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

A few songs into this and I'm already liking it much, much more than Visions. There were a couple decent tracks on Visions, but it was a bit too incomplete and amateurish for me to truly enjoy it. I like how polished this sounds. It's more poppy but also more creative than Visions.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 6 November 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

I adore this, it's honestly the happiest I've felt listening to an album since E•MO•TION.

The title track and "World Princess Part II" are the early highlights for me. I don't really think she improved "Realiti" from the demo but I'm not bothered by the new version, it sounds fine and more of a piece with the rest of the record

carly bae jepsen (monotony), Friday, 6 November 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link

On first listen I'm standing by my true romance / sucker comparison tho I am liking this a lot more than sucker already.

Tim F, Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link

the sucker comparison is v otm

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:52 (eight years ago) link

Is true romance really comparable to visions? I never checked it out.

how's life, Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link

Not really, but the internal relation between each artist's respective albums feels similar.

Tim F, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link

Sucker was Charli XCX trying on a new persona, Art Angels is more like Grimes figuring out how to do the things she wanted to do all along

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link

Well that's one reason it works a lot better, yeah!

But sonically and stylistically I think the comparison stands.

Tim F, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

"Art Angels is more like Grimes figuring out how to do the things she wanted to do all along"

yeah, i don't think this is true at all.

circa1916, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link

Love how many of the takes here are based on how closely she met your expectations. Aw, did your manic pixie dream girl let you down?
I think the record is loose and fun and for what it's worth, I think she's set her sights on the high ecstasy of pure pop, everything and anything is grabbed in service of that feel. Which I love.

MatthewK, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link

Hm, I think that was overgeneralisation, on reflection. As you were.

MatthewK, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

aaand written before I heard the final line of Butterfly. Oops.

MatthewK, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link

Haha I just got there myself and I was about to say...

Tim F, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:49 (eight years ago) link

Finally got home to listen to this. I'm on Easily and am really happy with this. Not even to the remake of Realiti yet! I'm pretty nervous. This is great so far, but cryptic hints like

aaand written before I heard the final line of Butterfly. Oops.

― MatthewK, Friday, November 6, 2015 8:44 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ARRRRRRGH. What is THAT supposed to mean? Why am I on this thread right now?

how's life, Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

At Venus Fly now. Realiti a relief, thank god. Could hear these songs at the Area:One festival maybe? I love it.

how's life, Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

The 'obscure Japanese sample' on here is the guitar riff at the start of Butterfly

ufo, Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link

oh man this album is amazing. Butterfly, in particular. That whole song is perfect and the end is the biggest payoff.

pplasma, Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:44 (eight years ago) link

After 5 or so listens and a headphone upgrade, I'm starting to get into Art Angels. Even though I'd have been perfectly happy with Visions Pt. II, I'm glad that she made the album she wanted to instead of what people expected.

pep ponk aliyev (seandalai), Saturday, 7 November 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

Judas

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 7 November 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link


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