Feels like more proof that Twitter Inc people don't use Twitter
― stet, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link
but like who made it whats it for
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link
I'll use it for the same thing regardless what it's called.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:07 (eight years ago) link
stet otm
and if Snapchat is any indication, we're moving away from likes and follows generally, so this new heart is going in the wrong direction.
Also much of the time the favorite button is about conversation-ending, saying "I hear you even if I'm not going to reply." That ain't the same as heart.
― my harp and me (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link
people are gonna huff and puff but obviously nothing changes. seems obvious twitter wants to be a little less inscrutable to the uninitiated, their user growth numbers have been awful
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
If they would just embed Instagram photos instead of posting them as a URL, they would be back in the center of things in no time.
― my harp and me (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
feel like twitters got it all wrong, imo they shd come to grips w the fact that they are a product for power users and shd build it to cater to those users, then concentrate on syndicating/monetizing all that free content thru diff channels
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link
it sux that the end game of success for these companies is ruining their product and turning it into a way for grandparents to annoy their family members
― (extremely hoops voice) (Clay), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link
OTM
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
it's like SBs becoming FPs all over again
― mookieproof, Tuesday, November 3, 2015 10:48 PM (57 minutes ago)
realest
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
so much otm here. wish i could acknowledge that without making this vapid post in the middle of it.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E27300_01/E27309/html/images/checkmark.png
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
too green.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 01:02 (eight years ago) link
how is a star hard to understand
― j., Wednesday, 4 November 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
@mulliganWith @Cluster we found hearts made a LOT more sense to users than stars. Stars were used sparingly. Hearts impulsively. Higher engagement.
@mulliganBasically users thought:Stars = favorites —> "I only can have a few favorites". Hearts = likes —> "I can like as many things as I want."
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link
star = you can give out as many as you want (they come on sheets, in stickers)
BUT
w/ added space-age advantage that they can be TAKEN AWAY
hearts pfft you can't like the whole world gotta keep that thing close to you
― j., Wednesday, 4 November 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link
yes many sins in software are committed under the banner of "increasing engagement"
it'll be generally accepted that product managers ruin everything good by the second half of 2016
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link
Should've seen this coming with the unlimited hearts on Periscope.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link
feel like you could do better if your goal is just to increase engagement. make a fart button with a dinky lil animation and a sound and that's going to get a good amount of engagement.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
somebody at fusion wrote a chrome extension that turns the heart into an animated poop emoji
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link
That reminds me, what do you guys think of Periscope? Feels like this era of instant streaming video has yet to really hit a critical point, but I've watched a few interesting streams.
I knew when I got the notification that my friend was trapped on the Tower of Terror ride at Disney World that it'd be a boring, if illuminating, moment
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
Man that ride fucks up a lot.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
ive never seen anything good on there but a lot of ppl are convinced its the future, im skeptical that really that many ppl want to watch no production values live video from someones phone, idk live streaming startups have been coming and going for like ten years now, justin.tv where i used to watch illicit nba streams did turn into twitch and sell to amazon for a billion, the best streaming company is obv younow not just cause it sounds like the name of a fake app from a tv show but because u can watch teens sleep lol http://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/im-addicted-to-watching-teens-sleep#.rh7ElWDxx
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
music industry is whistling in the dark about how periscope affect live shows; right now it's impossible to patrol cell phone shooting and periscope gives the audience the right to livestream... which no artist would ever voluntarily give up of course. so by and large venues and promoters are weirdly pretending like it doesn't exist while still obsessively banning camcorders with less resolution or online connectivity. it's gonna come to a head soon i think.
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
younow is a direct rip of this south korean stream platform so yah its obv the best one
― dead (Lamp), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
nb i am not cosigning/cassandra-ing periscope specifically, just the core tech.
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link
got super into korean streams where ppl order lots of take out and thean eat it on stream
there was also a rad one where this couple decorated their apt on stream
― dead (Lamp), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link
lmao
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
I would watch those
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link
can u get amateur porn on stream, if so link pls
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link
that falls more under camming
― pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link
citizen panopticon a good thing as Ferguson and BLM streamers have made evident in the past year, whether it's #disruptive to #media is another thing I guess
― pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
Live streams from eye-level wearables will be the killer appliance for better and indeed worse.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link
can u get amateur porn on stream, if so link pls― schlep and back trio (anagram)
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
chaturbate is such a terrible portmanteau word
― soref, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
Needs and s/z sound in there.
― my harp and me (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/heDl5HI.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
hearts seems like not an important change to the experience of reading twitter
also for some reason it didn't change on my phone
― flopson, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link
yeah my iPhone app still has the stars
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
if u force quit the app the hearts will show up
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
Seen a couple of grumbling pieces about how twitter is going to die because its too toxic - so the heart thing is funny.
I don't want to see it go, its probably the only social media thing I am ever going to use (don't ever take photos, just like typing into boxes) and I really wanted to talk guerilla warfare with comrades as the UK enters a tense and volatile state of class war.
Hopefully they can de-list it off the stock exchange (LOL making money) or something twitter-like can come along in its place that won't be monetized or create jobs.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
I DON'T FIGHT that much on Twitter. Feel like I'm missing something.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
y'all https://twitter.com/dead_cells/status/661775509366394880
― flopson, Thursday, 5 November 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
It's not that I'm offended by the heart itself. I just don't want the world to see a Tweet that I arrogantly deemed important with a cutsey little cupid symbol instead of something a little less emotional like a star.
So all the fart extensions in the world doesn't really do anything in this case.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
Twitter is only social media platform I've been able to relate to. I approach it like the old USENET days - Tweetbot is a great client with enough filtering that can turn down the roar into a manageable ticker-tape of infosec global paranoia with interjections from any number of insane people. Some of them post here.
What galls me about the star into heart nonsense is that Twitter actually saw this as a way to fix themselves. Like they had debates and meetings about this.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 5 November 2015 06:58 (eight years ago) link
Just picturing a manager walking into a meeting, striding up to the whiteboard without a word, and drawing a really huge heart. Worker bees begin buzzing, "where's he going with this? What's this all about?" as the manager slowly turns around to face his team.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 08:42 (eight years ago) link
You should direct The Social Network II: The Twitter Story.
― Jeff, Thursday, 5 November 2015 12:04 (eight years ago) link
It's got to wait until I'm finished working on my screenplay about the men and women who created Bud Light Lime.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link
What galls me about the star into heart nonsense is that Twitter actually saw this as a way to fix themselves.
^ This cuts through a lot of the outraged nonsense. Speaks volumes for what might be going on in the company.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link
this is what galls me about it, from their official blog:
We are changing our star icon for favorites to a heart and we’ll be calling them likes. We want to make Twitter easier and more rewarding to use, and we know that at times the star could be confusing, especially to newcomers. You might like a lot of things, but not everything can be your favorite.The heart, in contrast, is a universal symbol that resonates across languages, cultures, and time zones. The heart is more expressive, enabling you to convey a range of emotions and easily connect with people. And in our tests, we found that people loved it.
The heart, in contrast, is a universal symbol that resonates across languages, cultures, and time zones. The heart is more expressive, enabling you to convey a range of emotions and easily connect with people. And in our tests, we found that people loved it.
Yeah, stars are really confusing and not everyone understands them whereas they do hearts???
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link