the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

He didn't want any sequences - no specifics. He wanted big extravaganza shots and small shots. He wanted spaceships doing all kinds of things. Then he took all of this unrelated stuff and made sequences out of it, even though there was no inherent continuity and each board was different from the next. Then the storyboard artists went back to work and began refining the sequences. The problem was that we had to start working with those original storyboards, and unfortunately, there wasn't enough information then to really do the shots right

Can we change the thread title to 'the dick moves of george lucas'

man there are 3,000 posts in this thread huh

never forget darth icky

lucas on why he didn't return to direct the new movie:

You go to make a movie and all you do is get criticized, and people try to make decisions about what you’re going to do before you do it.

Y’know, it’s not much fun, and you can’t experiment; you can’t do anything. You have to do it a certain way. I don’t like that, I never did. I started out in experimental films, and I want to go back to experimental films, but of course no one wants to see experimental films.

if only this poor multibillionaire, whose star wars features were mostly-self-funded, could find a way to make the films he really wants to make :(

lol at the idea that george lucas wants to make experimental films
bigger lol at the idea that ANY film by george lucas wouldn't draw some interest... red tails aside. marketing for that was so confused.

I wonder, when he says that no one wants to see experimental films, if his complaint is actually that an experimental film, even one made by George Lucas, is unlikely to be widely distributed by a major studio or gross hundreds of millions of dollars.

George Lucas and Michael Bay, just prisoners of an unjust system

I'm thinking he could probably put THX-1139 on YouTube, there might be a deal there.

its almost as if the movie going public has been dumbed down from decades of Star Wars-inspired SFX crap

I think I posted it on another thread, but there was an interview where he made some comments about the corrupt nature of the studio system, racism in casting, and his opting out of different organizations that were fairly on-point, but then he had to keep harping on about how he was above these problems and blamed the lack of success of Red Tails on the system. He couldn't understand why a George Lucas product was not successful.

bigger lol at the idea that ANY film by george lucas wouldn't draw some interest...

Ahem

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Strange_Magic_poster.jpg

oh yeah, did that happen?

Easy, you deserved love.

i honestly never heard of it!

Lucas had been working on developing the project for 15 years before production began. Touchstone Pictures released Strange Magic on January 23, 2015[4] and became a critical and commercial failure. The film's opening weekend box office debut of $5.5 million is one of the worst ever for a film opening at 3,000+ theaters.

On the film's plot, director Gary Rydstrom stated, "We pitched it as a Beauty and the Beast story where the Beast doesn't change."

Shrek is a 2001 American computer-animated fantasy-comedy film produced by PDI/DreamWorks, released by DreamWorks Pictures

(sry for spoilers)

These little things look so apologetic:

http://socialmoms.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Disney-StrangeMagic-EditorialFeatureImage-20150430-FINAL-634x380.jpg

Strange Magic was horribly marketed, and by all accounts it was also a horrible movie. I sincerely wonder what the heck Lucas has in mind when he thinks "I've got an experimental film in me, waiting to be made."

Star Wars was pretty experimental, in the strictest sense of the word.

"American Graffiti"s nonstop rock 'n roll soundtrack was pretty radical in '73 too

the miniature/special effects shots in Star Wars were pretty out there for the time

to the point where a ton of other films used Industrial Light and Magic for their films, including Star Trek

then there's the diverging branch where ILM continued into the computer animation era but also managed to spin off Pixar

THX, too.

None of which of course is a reason why he should take up the reins again.

that strange magic rabbit is creepy as fuck

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-lucas-on-why-he-is-done-directing-star-wars/

oh, OTHER people don't get why the movies are entertaining

tbh it's pretty funny that he framed it as a drama about family problems when his editor for the films people actually liked was his ex-wife

Is his ex-wife, was his wife.

"When you break up with somebody, the first rule is no phone calls. The second rule, you don't go over to their house and drive by to see what they're doing," he said laughing. "The third one is you don't show up at their coffee shop and say you are going to burn it... You just say 'Nope, gone, history, I'm moving forward.'"

I feel like there's a story George wants to tell here. But like the rest of his stories, we're better off without.

That's a meme that really needs to die. Marcia Lucas was one of three credited editors on Star Wars, and wasn't even the primary editor; Paul Hirsch was. She wasn't credited at all on Empire; Hirsch was the only credited editor. And on Jedi she was again one of three credited editors.

In fact Hirsch and Richard Chew edited the great majority of Star Wars, aided by an uncredited George Lucas; Marcia worked mostly on the Death Star battle which, admittedly, she turned from an incoherent mess into something great.

Nonetheless, it's another brick in a very, very stupid wall which is supposed to support the idea that Lucas had nothing to do with the success of the OT.

Perhaps by editor I mean to say "she told George his ideas were bad over dinner"

Your familiarity with the word 'credited' leads me to suspect you are familiar with its dark side 'uncredited'?

More seriously have you seen the article upthread about her contributions? It seems fairly convincing that she was working on Empire.

Bah iPhone-caused xp

Someone who could share opinions with him versus a room full of people who can't tell him to his face that "Darth Icky" is a bad idea

Since I used the word "uncredited," yes, I'm fairly obviously familiar with it. Which is why I said Marcia wasn't credited on Empire, not that she didn't work on it.

we can be pedants, or we can meditate on the pure badness of "Darth Icky"

Yeah, that's the iPhone - Safari doesn't show you what's been posted since you started writing a response.

It's a pretty small wall though - out of a thousand people, would you reckon there'd be even one who could put together a coherent argument that George Lucas was incidental to Star Wars? I'd be surprised if you got fifty who know who Marcia Lucas is.

Maybe Michael Kaminski is largely overstating her role, and maybe the only reason for that is to diminish George's role (though I don't think the book does that). But I'm not sure that the owner of one of the largest franchises in history as the rebels and someone who's given one interview in 32 years as the Empire really works :)

But we can all agree on Icky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBzJF_-cBA

http://upl.stack.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ickey-shuffle-o-2.gif

GEORGE NOOOOO

I'm sure there will be nothing about family or any family-related drama in this movie. All spaceships shooting at stuff.

how many hours of nonstop spaceships shooting at stuff and lightsaber battles sans any backstory whatsoever would this have to be before opening night crowds walked out? Nine? Ten?

just saw this Phantom Menace deleted scene for the first time. i laughed.

so a jedi friend of theirs dies in front of them, and they spend time whimsically pondering their next action

FAMILY

I'm still wound up by the idea George Lucas thinks he has a better grasp on plotting characters with relationships and families than the people who now own Star Wars

George Lucas is now reminding me of the guy who graduated last year but still hangs around the high school a lot. LET IT GO, GEORGE.

attending a party at his ranch in a few weeks, anyone got any questions they want me to ask him

already got "When is the sequel to Red Tails coming out????!???" covered