Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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Feminist gaming critic Katherine Cross sees Vivian as the gamers’ ideal woman, not only “apolitical” but with no mind of her own and pliable to male fantasy. Yet, as it happens, one of Twitter’s most active and outspoken “gaters” is a young woman who dresses as Vivian James for GamerGate events and goes by “Cult of Vivian” (real first name, Nicole).

wow pathetic

goole, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

Except for the bigots and far-right loons who hang out on the movement’s fringes, what they oppose is not equal treatment for women, gays, transgender people, or minorities, but the politicization and policing of culture.

that's a good one

goole, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

A Boston Magazine story even discussed a bizarre video rant against Wu as an example of GamerGate harassment—nearly two months after BuzzFeed reported that it was the work of a trolling comedian out to mock and spoof GamerGate.

this comedian is a far-right paranoid whose outlook lines up 1:1 w/ gg

goole, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

a literal strawwoman xxp

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

Not the actual Observer though, just a New York thing.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 09:02 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Nero/status/654247992480788480

Sounds good!

Neil S, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 10:54 (eight years ago) link

TAKING ALL BETS

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 10:55 (eight years ago) link

gamergater does intersectionality, at last

Neil S, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link

christ, look at this fucking shitlord

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/653144919486279680/c5Yx0VCR.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

ahaha

https://twitter.com/Olivier_LeClair/status/656319493514371072

goole, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

How old is that kid?

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link

Trudeau or "goodkingcole"?

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

goodkingcole - he looks very young. I find it hard to imagine the sort of kid that bothers with this stuff.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 07:34 (eight years ago) link

good for Trudeau

Neil S, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 07:58 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/UjjaCdT.png

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 October 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

how you gonna slay the feminists with a three inch blade

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 October 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

Funny how often reason and logic are praised by people with a tenuous and warped grasp on reality.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

@TheLonelyMaverick would doubtless be a more accurate twitter handle

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Friday, 23 October 2015 08:29 (eight years ago) link

forks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaGpn6_qjPA

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Friday, 23 October 2015 08:30 (eight years ago) link

you know who *else* can't make a sandwich

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 October 2015 00:14 (eight years ago) link

wow at that sandwich pic

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 October 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link

The replies are gold on that one.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 October 2015 12:18 (eight years ago) link

i think anyone who can't see through milo is about as stupid as they come and deserves everything they get. he's like a villain from a shitty 80s japanimation series.

please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Monday, 26 October 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

among the mess of not-funny details in this sxsw panel mess is this one very funny detail:

https://twitter.com/TodayinTabs/status/659103790482759680

goole, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

more about this group, and its

https://twitter.com/2dAmMuslim/status/658977842533945344

MANIFESTO

goole, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

too sexist; didn't read

Neil S, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

that cartoon suggests these assholes are self aware

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

forks i think you're wrong

https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics

goole, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

jeez. Well maybe it suggests they are BEYOND self awareness.

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

(I don't have my glasses on and) I thought the cartoon Milo was Hillary Clinton at first and it was all quite confusing

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

http://www.twitch.tv/miramisu

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

no need to click tbh, female LoL streamer getting just constant tide of sexist abuse from twitch chat. that twitch for you i guess.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link

troll streams are a whole other world man

dead (Lamp), Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

yeah this is a phenomenon entirely outside my experience

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link

man i don't have the slightest idea what to make of that. is she making a living with twitch?

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

most of those girls are making bank off the high minimum donations and a deliberate part of the appeal is being able to send (mostly) unfiltered troll messages that will be read on stream. you can probably find some of helena lux's streams archived for a particularly good e.g. of the phenomenon. there's a subset of twitch where some camgirls moved over to twitch because its more lucrative and less terrible than doing cams & so their chats are particularly... problematic. i mean the idea that there are so many people willing to pay $5 to spam the donation script with nonsense or boring insults or w/e is symptomatic of the sickness at the heart of the western male pysche but its basically a weird s&m stream. more misogynistic are all the manbabies that complain incessantly about 'female streamers' and 'attention whores' and are always trying to get these girls banned from twitch.

dead (Lamp), Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

well thanks for the background, what a fascinating world we live in.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

lean back in your ergonomic chair, gaze pensively out of your office window looking out at the anonymous urban skyline. tweet 'all labor is exploitative under capitalism'. shut the lid on your laptop. close your eyes. dream.

dead (Lamp), Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

man i would love an ergonomic chair and a window

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

that explanation clarifies the cleavage, the stream of ideology from the cammer and the nonstop scroll of invective
i may need more help with this but i imagine that's best left to clergy

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

twitch chat makes me want to kill myself

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 30 October 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

also an important read:

http://www.sxsw.com/news/2015/sxsw-announces-march-12-online-harassment-summit

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

good to see raking an organization over the coals actually having what appears to be a net-positive outcome

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

It sounds like the Level Up people weren't told that the Save Point people were going to be there.

https://twitter.com/carolinesinders/status/660159799783522305

jmm, Friday, 30 October 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

i'm not so sure about that.

The summit will include Randi Harper, Katherine Cross and Caroline Sinders from “Level Up: Overcoming Harassment in Games,” as well as Perry Jones, Mercedes Carrera, and Lynn Walsh from “SavePoint: A Discussion on the Gaming Community.” We are working with both groups to develop the most productive focus for their appearances.

what i'm seeing is that the first three speakers were not told that their (cancelled) event was being reinstated in a combined format with the latter three, who, let's be frank, hate them.

xp

goole, Friday, 30 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

so the timeline is (as far as i understand it)

anti-harassment people propose panel about design, their proposal is mobbed on line, but succeeds
gg people holler at sxsw to give them a panel too, which it does (i think w/o the same proposal process!)
after a shitload of hate mail (from everyone, afaict) sxsw cancels *both* panels
media aghast, vox and buzzfeed threaten boycott at cancellations
sxsw cooks up replacement panel -- throwing 'both sides' into the same room for a whole day

goole, Friday, 30 October 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link


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