Michael Moore S&D

Hey, I remember this TV Nation bit

out tomorrow

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/10/where-to-invade-next-is-the-most-subversive-movie-michael-moore-has-ever-made/

looks bad

friend (not the op) shared this:

https://www.facebook.com/sylvain.lariviere.777/videos/vb.829750410/10156828556290411/?type=2&theater

Sylvain Lariviere

Follow · May 25 · Edited ·

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ain't America
Here is a different reality about Italia from an Italian girl who's living a different daily reality than this video
(From Valentina Corvi)

ciao! just to tell u that that moor's video is completelly false. the majority of us strugles to arrive to the end of the month, and we are almost bankrupted as a country. the two companies where he went, have nothing to do with all the rest of the Italian companies. wages are around 1000/1200 euros per month, the 100% goes away for monthly expenses (house rent, bills, food, kids needs, medicines..). yes, sure, holidays here are payed, but normal people use that money to survive not to go on holiday. that couple?? easy when u are in two people working and no kids. in italy is much more common that only one of the two has a job (there are no jobs here) and 3 kids at home.
we are devastated by the taxes of our corrupted politicians (the only really rich in my country). for i stance, i have a house in the center of rome, was my granny house. i have to give every year 6500 euros to the gov only cause i own that house, only cause is mine, every year i have to pay 6500 euros, over a hoise where already my granmother payd lot of taxes when she bought it. than i have to pay the tari, other 600 euros, to the district of rome, so evry year just cause i posses my family house, i've to give 7000 euros to the gov.
and i'm lucky, cause i can afford, i belong to the minority of the itslians. if i was a normal itslian, i would have been forced to sell my family house. half of the pay an employe gets here, goes to the government in first place, with what remains, u have to survive.
another exaple, gino strada, he is a surgeon who created a medical charity organization called emergency. emergency used to work only in the third world or in war places as siria, afganistan ecc. they provide free medical assitence. well, now they had to open emergency centers also in italy, cause the 20% of the italians cannot afford paying for healthcare, though here is not like in the us and medical healsh should be free. but the is a tax on it called "ticket", u dont pay the medical care but y pay the tax on it. and people are so poor now that they cannot afford paying the ticket. so gino strada was forced to help suffering people also in his country.
michael moor wanted to uplight what's wrong in the us. but he should have gone in northen europe, not in italy. people want to come in the usa, cause at least there u can find a job. maybe maternity and holidays are not payd, but still u can find a job. here people do not have a job, nevertheless they have to pay a lot of taxes over whatever. we have also a tax over taxes, it sounds funny, but is the dramatic italian reality.
never so a more unfair video as the moor's one.
the only thing here is better than usa, the reason why our life span is wider, is that is true that we don't eat shit. our diet, the mediterrain diet, is very healthy since we eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, very little sugar, very little fats, and we don't like processed food. but obama is pishing for the ttip, he want europe to be invaded with the american shit, meat full of antibiotics and hormons, ogm, veg filled up with chemicals. as soon as the american edible crap will invade us, will die obese, with diabetis and as soon as u do there!

ciao!

Where To Invade Next had some stuff I liked--a bit contrasting the ways in which Germany acknowledges and pays tribute to its victims of the Holocaust with America's inability to do any such equivalent re: slavery admittedly choked me up a bit. But he's gotten awful lazy as a filmmaker, and the film is ultimately a bit shallow and repetitive. Grossest moment: putting the father of a victim of a mass shooting on camera to discuss his lack of hostility towards the shooter as proof at how non-grudge-holding Europeans are; my husband actually yelled "Fuck Off!" at the TV.

Michael Moore's October Surprise: 'TrumpLand' Documentary

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/movies/19michael-moore-trumpland.html

Ugh, like this election needs his half-assery We have enough full-assery as it is.

Total fucking dud

yeah, right? One of about 6 people in the country who told us Trump would win.

interview

What you’re going to see is, on day one, he’s going to rescind a dozen or more of Obama’s executive-branch regulations. On day two, Republicans will start printing laws the way you print fliers for a homecoming dance. Before the liberals and the Democrats can get their heads screwed on straight, they’ll have 20 laws passed. Building a wall. Creating a Muslim ban. He’s shown how he’s going to do it. He’s going to get away with it by making it a ban on Muslims who come from the following countries. He needs just enough cover for his crowd to say, “Oh, he’s being reasonable there. He’s not banning all Muslims.”...

I met (Trump) in 1998. Roseanne Barr — after her sitcom was over, they gave her a talk show. I was on, and Trump was there in the green room. He sees me, goes to the producer, and says, “I can’t be on the same show. I saw that General Motors movie, and he’s going to attack me.”

The producer said [to me], “Is there any way you can help me?” I said, “Oh brother, I’ll go talk to him.” I walked over, shook his hand — it was very clammy. I don’t honestly remember the size, but it was moist. He said, “We don’t have to mix it up out there.” I said, “Why do you assume that about me? I’m from Michigan. We don’t really know you. The only thing that sticks in my head is you were one of the few guys that was on the cover of Playboy.” He laughed. I said, “It’s Roseanne. She’s a comedian. You have nothing to worry about here.”

He stayed, and we did the show. And it wasn’t until last year that it hit me: People think he’s stupid — he’s not stupid at all. He played me; he got me to not be myself, to not talk any anti-corporate talk. I thought I was going over to relax him. What he was doing was undoing me so I wouldn’t be Michael Moore. This guy is good....

Tom Hanks should be the template of who the Democrats should run. He is beloved by tens of millions of people, and he’s smart, and he operates from both his brain and his heart. As far as I’m concerned, he has good politics.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/michael-moore-donald-trump-democrats-election-1201960466/

well he was doin' ok til that last bit

so Ocasio-Cortez has some screen time in this one; freshly edited!

Here's the exclusive trailer for Michael Moore's (@MMFlint) newest documentary "Fahrenheit 11/9." It's in theaters Sept. 21. pic.twitter.com/eHLPy1J9o4

— HuffPost (@HuffPost) August 9, 2018

Oh great he’s reusing that asinine title

well F9/11 did gross $221 million globally, so not a hindrance

The official poster for my new movie! See you all at the theaters across the U.S. on Opening Day, September 21st! #Fahrenheit119 pic.twitter.com/khZrBMqqSQ

— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) August 15, 2018

Brief reminder that “Michael & Us” is a great podcast by two leftists from Toronto that reviews every MM-wannabe agitprop flick released.

https://m.soundcloud.com/michael-and-us

11/9 takes on the Clintons, Obama, and liberal apathy along with the Grifter... and...

It was, according to Moore, Trump’s discovery that (Gwen) Stefani made more money on The Voice than he did on The Apprentice that made Trump announce his candidacy, to goad NBC into seeing how popular he was. It backfired, but the wheels started turning.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/9/7/17831208/fahrenheit-11-9-review-michael-moore-trump-liberals-tiff

Was thinking last night that I'm going to be a lot more forgiving of Spike Lee's recent indulgences when this movie comes out.

Spike did not predict the election correctly, tho

Okay so Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani, I've got my eye on you.

Saw the new one purely for something to do--there's not a film of Michael Moore's I've found anything more than mildly diverting. The best part is where he goes after Obama for his handling of Flint; I don't remember Obama ever looking so bad. (Assuming Moore's presentation of events isn't taken out of context--never a sure thing with him.) The rest goes on. Without even addressing specifics, it's hard to get past that oppressively facetious tone of his.

Even by Moore's own gimmicky standards, this hits rock-bottom twice: commissioning a water truck to visit the Michigan governor's house (so Moore can take the hose out and start spraying water over the fence), and playing audio of Trump over footage of Hitler.

sounds ok to me

Honestly, it's not. It's embarrassing, even if--maybe even especially if--you agree with the sentiment. The Hitler thing is as crude and as obvious as a dumb Facebook Photoshop or something. A high school student could do better.

ok so this documentary was bleak as hell. is there any truth to it? are "renewable" energy sources not really renewable at all?

here's a counterpoint someone else prepared earlier:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/07/michael-moore-far-right-climate-crisis-deniers-film-environment-falsehoods

the film isn't skeptical about climate change. it's really doomy. the filmmaker -- not moore -- implies that humans need to drastically rein in their consumption and also their numbers through population control. basically he thinks industrial society cannot continue, not in any form that would look familiar to us.

maybe the far right finds these arguments convenient because it sticks it to reformers but that's just a secondary effect. i am mostly just freaked out by the idea that i shouldn't have faith in wind and solar. is that true?

did you read the link?

There are real issues and real conflicts to be explored... ...But they are handled so clumsily and incoherently by this film that watching it is like seeing someone start a drunken brawl over a spilled pint, then lamping his friends when they try to restrain him

Bill McKibben went after it in Rolling Stone too.

yeah, they did mckibben dirty in the film. even i knew he wasn't in the pocket of fossil fuel companies, what a fucked up charge to make.