quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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I don't think it's that strange. They serve breakfast/brunch, so good to have cereal as an option. It's also a big kid friendly place. Kids like cereal.

Jeff, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

kinda the stupidest thing in the world to order in a restaurant. feed your kids some cereal before you go to brunch. and then just let them sit there bored while you eat real food.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

exceptions for: homemade granola, hot cereals, tiny boxes of cereal in diners.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/dining/vegan-diet-lifestyle-recipes.html

Jaya, her youngest daughter, looked up with eyes wide. “Wait, Mommy, you ate a bear?” she asked.

“It was when I was a kid,” Ms. Piatt replied. “I didn’t understand yet.”

j., Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:22 (eight years ago) link

is a vegan diet really so controversial as it is made out to be here? these people talk abt it like it was just made legal to eat this way.

all my friends are vampires (art), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

If you can't feel persecuted for your consumer choices, what kind of life are you even living?

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

it's basically just inverted vanity -- "Everyone thinks my lifestyle is so strange!"

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

'it's not strange, i'm glowing!!'

j., Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

true happiness lies in the self-righteous expression of the mundane

all my friends are vampires (art), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

vegans and zombies and bacon m i rite

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

"vegan is the new bone broth" lol i thought paleo was the new vegan

it is pretty funny how nytimes recycles trend pieces every few years e.g. the "hitler youth" haircut trend piece later done as "the disconnected undercut", dozens of "brooklyn is the new manhattan piece" and even a "manhattan is the new brooklyn" one lol

marcos, Thursday, 1 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

"veganism is now fashionable, not the hippie lentil burgers you once knew!" this has been a trend piece for prob at least a decade now since idk moby went vegan and opened that little shop in nyc

marcos, Thursday, 1 October 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

who wants some more cashew cheese

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 October 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

gesundheit

j., Thursday, 1 October 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

Cashew cheese is pretty good.

carl agatha, Friday, 2 October 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link

:/

Jeff, Friday, 2 October 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link

:/

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 October 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

carl agatha, Friday, 2 October 2015 02:57 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

A blast from the past, and a perhaps a different angle on the meritocracy quiddities

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/us/politics/20generation.html

Eleanor Celeste, at 26 if we believe the NYT, is now a "Policy Analyst for Medical and Forensic Sciences at The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy"

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/eleanor-celeste/21/10b/471

I am certain that no other qualified candidates were available, since medical and forensic sciences have only existed for about a decade or two.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link

We need an update on how the Celeste family feels about Bernie Sanders.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/04/travel/new-york-city-budget-travel.html
in which the author basically proves that expensive ny is far better than non-expensive ny

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 November 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link

I'm sorry he missed out on the multiple health code-violating sushi.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 8 November 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

looking at a recipe for squash salad in today's time magazine I encountered this glittery gem of the ruling class. last phrase perfectly sums up effete manhattan 2015 :(

We were eating dinner at Houseman, a restaurant opened by the chef Ned Baldwin on the once-quiet far-western side of SoHo, now called Hudson Square. It is a spare, welcoming room, with walls of white brick, warm lighting, smooth wooden tables the color of Bridgehampton sand — a neighborhood restaurant for those who live amid art and commerce, who travel widely, who want to eat simply and well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/magazine/a-new-winter-roast.html?ref=topics&_r=0

an emotionally withholding exterminator (m coleman), Sunday, 20 December 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

i prefer my tables to be more southampton sand colored, sry house man

INTOXICATING LIQUORS (art), Sunday, 20 December 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

say what you will, NYT knows the audience for its restaurant feature articles.

those readers who are truly of the upper crust want to look into a flattering mirror that only reflects what they hope others will envy about them. the aspiring middle class readers yearn to imagine themselves in some dim corner of that image. finally, there are the many hate-readers. the times has got them all covered.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 20 December 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/20/dining/la-chine-review.html?ref=dining&_r=0

But at the risk of undermining my populist credentials, I’d suggest New York could use more Chinese restaurants that are as expensive as our most ambitious French and Italian places.

no worries Pete, your populist credentials are non existent. to be fair he calls for better quality ingredients and more "creativity" from chefs and yeah there is a longstanding NYC assumption that Chinese food should be cheap. but for my money (pun intended) he doesn't bother to document many expensive ingredients (save for lamb loin) here and the creativity seems limited to some Japanese style raw fish starters which, as every other restaurant critic has been saying for 10 years, are a cliche. I love reading about restaurants especially places I can't afford or would never go to but the Times coverage in this area grows more and more effete, exclusive, and (buzz word alert) entitled. This sentence is telling: paying a lot is now "one of the pleasures" of dining out.

an emotionally withholding exterminator (m coleman), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

"one of the pleasures" is not a quote from the review, BTW, it's a critical trope I read now in all kinds of reviews

an emotionally withholding exterminator (m coleman), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

one of the pains of reading a lot is you notice lazy writing

an emotionally withholding exterminator (m coleman), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link

spent some time yesterday reading some of the 1000+ comments about his Per Se downgrade. i don't know why i did that.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

The lady had dropped her napkin.

More accurately, she had hurled it to the floor in a fit of disillusionment, her small protest against the slow creep of mediocrity and missed cues during a four-hour dinner at Per Se that would cost the four of us close to $3,000. Some time later, a passing server picked up the napkin without pausing to see whose lap it was missing from, neatly embodying the oblivious sleepwalking that had pushed my guest to this point.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/dining/pete-wells-per-se-review.html?ref=dining&_r=0

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:45 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, I did the same thing. Thought about that review and specifically the napkin anecdote while posting the above. I mean, taking down Per Se is a public service of sorts and for $325 + a pop diners should be treated like royalty but that whole thing with the lady's napkin and the prissy way it's written kinda turned my stomach and made me think fuck all y'all.

an emotionally withholding exterminator (m coleman), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link

I mostly enjoy Pete Wells reviews, but yeah it's ridiculous when he pretends to champion the common man's interests while dining at Thomas Keller restaurants.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link

Of course it's kind of the weird position of an NYTimes food critic to be (I imagine) just below the line of rich enough to eat in places like that with any regularity, yet to have the expectations of a person who could.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link

how dare they allow that napkin to run free

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link

Also I get the impression that truly rich people don't take on that kind of hyper-consciousness when they eat in places like that, it's just another fucking dinner to them.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

i'm also guessing that most real rich people are treated like friggin' gold when they go to those places.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link

i've waited tables in two star restaurants, there's a degree of entitlement you've never imagined but it's just as often shrugged off as unnecessary

from the perspective of a gay man, i will post them now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

lol I accidentally "kudos"ed that and I can't un"kudos" it

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 18 February 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

LOL

[1] I want to apologize for using the term riff raff. It was insensitive and counterproductive.

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 19 February 2016 13:05 (eight years ago) link

Hovering your cursor over the "Kudos" icon kudoses it? That seems like an abuse of internet convention.

jmm, Friday, 19 February 2016 13:49 (eight years ago) link

I shouldn’t have to see the pain, struggle, and despair of homeless people to and from my way to work every day.

quid/ag the sentence

art, Friday, 19 February 2016 14:11 (eight years ago) link

http://www.businessinsider.com/im-a-self-made-millionaire-and-im-convinced-there-are-only-5-ways-to-get-rich-2016-2
This is straight trolling but of particular shame worthiness

4. Only do wealthy activities
The number one wealth killer is when a person of promise hangs out in places of poverty. Many times, people put themselves in poor places, which surrounds them with poor people. Get away from poor places if you want to avoid poor people. Dwelling along with poor people in poor places will never make you rich.
When I was a teenager, I used to play basketball with negative people in negative places. I constantly witnessed smoking, cursing, and other disrespectful behaviors every moment of the game. Even though I didn't partake in their antics, I was still a product of my environment, which deeply affected my general performance in life.
Many people tolerate negative conditions like this. They don't realize how much the subtle influence of gossip, violence, and drama impacts them. Moreover, if you're not on prosperity, you're in poverty. Find out how you can partake in wealthy activities. For me, instead of playing basketball, I started visiting luxury homes and car dealerships. It changed my life.

ulysses, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

somebody really likes Trading Places

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

Hmmm....yes, I could play basketball....or I could VISIT LUXURY HOMES!

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 25 February 2016 11:23 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/fashion/millennials-mic-workplace.html

meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Mr. Altchek recalled a companywide meeting last September that coincided with the religious holidays Yom Kippur and Eid al-Adha. An Anglo-Pakistani employee asked why management had announced a flexible time off policy for the Jewish holiday, but not for its Muslim counterpart.

“So I told her, ‘Great point, being inclusive and respectful of all religious affiliations is incredibly important to Mic,’” Mr. Altchek said.

Afterward, in front of a smaller group, he was approached by a younger, entry-level employee who said that there were two words missing from his reply. “I was a bit confused and said, ‘O.K., what were those?’” he recalled. “And she said: ‘I’m sorry. I didn’t hear an apology.’”

Mr. Altchek did not think such a comment belonged in a workplace, especially his.

“I was a little taken aback by the tone, but I told her I would address it and make sure the person who asked the question wasn’t offended by the answer,” he said. “You have to control your temper. It was in front of a bunch of people, which was probably better, because I was forced to be calm.”

That employee is no longer with the company. (Mr. Altchek said she was let go for “performance-related issues.”)

meet the new employee, same as the old employee

“People are here from morning to night, and we don’t want to leave,” said Elizabeth Plank, 28, a high-energy reporter who lives in the East Village and hosted a video series called “Flip the Script,” which seeks to challenge assumptions like, “What Happens When a Lady ‘Manspreads.’”

Ms. Plank contrasted her freedoms at Mic to her previous job at a feminist nonprofit organization, which she regarded as exemplifying the outdated work practices of older people.

“We called people on phones and we — I don’t know — we faxed people,” Ms. Plank said, sounding exasperated. “And we had to mail things. And no one really took my opinion into consideration.”

At Mic, she was able to dabble in different jobs and negotiate grandiose titles like “executive social editor.” Often, she prefers the theater of tweeting back and forth with the editor she sits next to rather than speaking face to face.

“If you can be young at heart, I think it makes your personal, and not only your work life, better,” added Ms. Plank, who left for Vox last month after two and a half years at Mic.

ulysses, Sunday, 20 March 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

the graf directly following ulysses' first quoted section has the reporter saying "A sense of entitlement is not the only stereotype attached to millennials in the workplace." lol so asking for an apology for religious discrimination is 'entitlement', in the opinion of this reporter? ceo fella actually sounds p reasonable about it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 20 March 2016 23:31 (eight years ago) link

that article is horrible, it's like two anecdotes surrounded with random fluffy assertions that seem either obviously dumb and wrong or pointless and unprovable.

intheblanks, Monday, 21 March 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

yep

ulysses, Monday, 21 March 2016 06:28 (eight years ago) link

“We called people on phones and we — I don’t know — we faxed people,” Ms. Plank said, sounding exasperated. “And we had to mail things. And no one really took my opinion into consideration.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IKVj4l5GU4

ulysses, Monday, 21 March 2016 06:30 (eight years ago) link


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