EXTREME METAL Albums Poll - Nominations Round

Shining - Blackjazz
Subrosa - More Constant Than The Gods
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works
Vattnet Viskar - Sky Swallower
Wolvserpent - Perigea Antahkarana
Amon Amarth - Versus the World
Converge - You Fail Me
Disfear - Live the Storm
Inquisition - Obscure Verses for the Multiverse
Panopticon - Kentucky

The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
Green Day - Dookie
Elastica - Elastica
Propellerheads - Decksandrumsandrockandroll
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm

wow, lots of nominations! I'll be adding these asap... I def. think Agalloch counts, and very heavy doom def. counts (eg. Sleep, Electric Wizard, Yob, Cough) as well as sludgy stuff. Candlemass and Pentagram and other trad. doom doesn't fit.

So far everyone seems to know what fits, I haven't noticed any egregious nominations so far.

you didn't read the previous post did you

hopefully imago will get 51 flag posts

lol, I see it. very funny imago... obv. those aren't going on the list.

i cant see what point imago is trying to make there. just looking for attention as per

waiting for the "its just banter" post

Extreme Bantz

Enslaved - Frost
Enslaved - Eld
Enslaved - Mardraum: Beyond the Within
Enslaved - Below the Lights
Immortal - At the Heart of Winter
Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness
Marduk - Opus Nocturne
Marduk - Rom 5:12
Mayhem - Ordo ad Chao
Opeth - Morningrise
Opeth - My Arms Your Hearse
Opeth - Still Life
Ripping Corpse - Dreaming with the Dead

i think its pretty fair to say anything by Boris from Pink onwards doesnt count?

pink & smile definitely shouldn't count imo

Yet Isis - Oceanic probably does.

How you gonna decide on this frobisher? Glad its not me running the poll, lol

I don't know enough about Boris! Did they turn into an indie band or something?

I think Isis counts -- if its long and experimental and complex that's extreme, but then that kind of definition would open the door to Tool, which certainly doesn't count. This is tough, I'll probably add anything that seems legit as there are already tons of stuff I've never heard being nominated, I guess this is based on the honor system. If I see obvious not-extreme stuff like Helloween or Iced Earth or Manowar, etc, those will not make it on the list. :)

This has me thinking about my early extreme metal experiences. This is probably way out there but does anyone remember the name of a notoriously bad goremetal/dm band with real obvious tacky drum machine drums? I think they're name started with a C, and one of their albums has like a zombie with a chainsaw on the cover... sorry that's really vague but maybe someone knows what I'm talking about.

Oh yeah and the early albums from the big 4 thrash bands count, but like for Metallica for example, I'm not going to add the Black Album or anything after.

they made albums after???

Frobisher you aren't thinking of Mortician are you

Baphomet - The Dead Shall Inherit

Wow, not excluding dupes there are already 309 albums nominated!

YES its Mortician! Thank you HSB!!!!

Deafheaven was just banter as well, right?

What even is 'extreme' metal, this just seems like a metal poll, which is fine, just don't call it 'extreme' i'm sure you've all been over this already though blah blah

a lot of metal isnt extreme

A lot of the metal nominated already here doesn't seem particularly 'extreme' by metal standards! But ah well, all subjective I guess. You'd best watch out for my real nominations though. They'll be super-duper extreme

Deafheaven is extreme, I don't know why they wouldn't be? I know people can't stand the idea that they're black metal but whatever. This is not about elitism or nitpicking. I mean, we're letting Agalloch & Drudkh in, Deafheaven is certainly as extreme as them.

I doubt your expertise on what constitutes extreme metal, imago. I'm gonna trust peeps like HAWKZ & Devilock & HSB as they are actual metal fans who listen to metal...

I'm probably being an elitist dick tbf so I'll shut up and nominate xp until you said that! oh em gee you've done it now pal

huh? what did I do? look, you're free to nominate non-trolling albums I'm not excluding anyone.

But yes, the definition of extreme is very loose in this poll but it certainly isn't a general metal poll (that's already been done).

Welllll I'm going less by the "extreme" tag and more by the subgenres listed. In my personal life I don't see much difference in composition or execution between Emperor's Anthems and something like Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian. It's mostly a question of ... decibels? BPM? Production? I dunno. In fact I was thinking of the difference between, say, Strapping Young Lad's City and Devin Townsend's Ocean Machine or Physicist. I assume only City is considered "extreme" and now we're already in fuzzy land.

Anyway

Strapping Young Lad - City

But Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian is the best metal album ever. Obv.

Right, Devilock I think you've got the right idea here. TBH I realized how thorny this poll might be after I proposed it, and thought about changing it to a single genre poll (like Black Metal), but oh well.

Another good rule of thumb -- If its in Kerrang! it most likely does not belong here.

I usually just go by if terrorizer covered them then its in

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/terroris.htm

all decisions are frobishers though

what was extreme 10, 20, 30 years ago might not sound extreme now so you have to balance up the era it came out. Sure , thrash metal isnt very extreme now but it sure was when the albums were made.
Obviously retro revival thrash bands might not seem extreme but would it really matter if they got in? its just a poll.

if it got in kerrang until the late 90s frobisher it might be extreme metal, frobisher. It did used to cover it.

good point about early kerrang

xpost to myself

Of course Venom was the first band nominated, and if Venom is in, everything is in: Mercyful Fate, Maiden, Priest. Or you could make the argument that Venom is noisier and more aggressive than the others.

So I'm just gonna pretend like I haven't noticed anything.

dont really see maiden or priest or sabbath as extreme tho thats just heavy metal to me

I think we just need to make a special case for Venom. But if it makes people unhappy I'll take them off

no way. venom were right there at the beginning of extreme metal.
If you remove them you may as well take off the thrash bands!

tho even early terrorizer lists are lols
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/terroris.htm

Terrorizer Albums Of The Year 1996

1. Type O Negative – October Rust
2. Godflesh – Songs Of Love And Hate
3. Neurosis – Through Silver In Blood
4. Swans – Soundtracks For The Blind
5. Tool – Aenima
6. Samael – Passage
7. Earth Crisis – Gomorrah's Season Ends
8. Whitehouse – Quality Time
9. Sepultura – Roots
10. Blood Axis – The Gospel Of Inhumanity

The other 20 albums...

11. 16 – Drop Out
12. Arch Enemy – Black Earth
13. Fu Manchu – In Search Of…
14. Crisis – Deathshread Extermination
15. The 3rd & The Mortal – Painting On Glass
16. C.O.C – Wiseblood
17. Vader – De Profundis
18. Cradle Of Filth – Dusk And Her Embrace
19. Laibach – Jesus Christ Superstars
20. Korn – Life Is Peachy
21. Katatonia – Brave Murder Day
22. Gehenna – Malice
23. Turmoil – From Bleeding Hands
24. Crowbar – Broken Glass
25. Various Artists – Nordic Metal
26. Bloodlet – Entheogen
27. Downset – Do We Speak A Dead Language?
28. Stuck Mojo – Pigwalk
29. My Dying Bride – Like Gods Of The Sun
30. Burzum – Filosofem

Deeds of Flesh - Reduced to Ashes

They get slagged as a Suffoclone but I think they homed in on one aspect of the Suffo sound, that maniacal chopping guitar thing, and developed it into something beyond even Suffocation. Sometimes I don't even understand how those guys can play in that style in that sustained way for so long. They all must have wrist deformities by now. Anyway, Reduced to Ashes is one of the meanest and most unrelenting death metal albums ever.

Also:

Nile - Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka
Nile - Black Seeds of Vengeance
Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked

Yes I think all four are equally great and I cannot choose an objective favorite. Each album is like a heavier and more refined version of the one before, and I'd have been content if they'd only ever released just one of them. Pretty much perfect albums all. I have no idea how I'd forgotten Nile til now as they're one of my fav dm bands.

xpost yes keep Venom I was daring to delve into the nitpickiness that will be our downfall but I'm all better now

Nobody need vote venom,hellhammer or death ss if they dont like them but i think they should be nominated just for their trailblazing.

the real murky territory is the death metal demos that preceded official albums by years in some cases. THAT is where the elitists shine.

argh, please don't post lists unless you want to nominate everything on them! And if so, I'm not allowing Korn or Type-O-Negative or Arch Enemy or a lot of stuff...

are they allowed? Would anyone nominate/vote them?

xp

agreed on Venom (Hellhammer and Death seem to be no-brainer to me) -- I think a trickier case would be a band like Motorhead

xp yes! The greatest albums of all time were undoubtedly all on tape cassette with 300 copies made.

If you know about that stuff nominate it then, its your life.

i wouldnt say they were extreme, hell lemmy spent their entire existence saying they're not metal!

xp

i dont know shit about death metal but im glad youre allowing it

Jute Gyte - Discontinuities
Jute Gyte - Vast Chains
Jute Gyte - Ressentiment
Jute Gyte - Ship of Theseus
Dodheimsgard - A Umbra Omega
Dodheimsgard - 666 International
(James Plotkin's) Atomsmasher - Atomsmasher
Orthrelm - OV
Kayo Dot - Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue
MUTation - Error 500
Menace Ruine - Venus Armata
Blut Aus Nord - 777 - Cosmosophy
Deathspell Omega - Fas - Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum
Lychgate - An Antidote for the Glass Pill
Chrome Hoof - Crush Depth
Dälek - Absence (n.b. this might actually not count as it's really a hip-hop record. that sounds like an extreme metal record)
The Devin Townsend Project - Deconstruction
Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand
Koenjihyakkei - Koenji 2 / Viva Koenji!!
Portal - Outré
Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape
Spektr - Mescalyne
Xasthur - Subliminal Genocide
Xasthur - Defective Epitaph
Zu - Carboniferous

I don't think Motorhead should count fwiw xp's

nm about Arch Enemy btw, I confused them with a different band, they would certainly be allowed.