bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

maybe this should go on grantland thread but jalen and jacoby are getting a daily espn radio show

i can't say i've ever listened, any good?

it's an enjoyable enough podcast. i don't know how it'll work on radio, there's a half assed aspect to the pod that i can't imagine they'll replicate on radio.

Jalen and Jacoby are pretty good especially when they dig into jalens stories or have fun news to break down. The off the dome aspect is actually kind of fun usually but they can get a little aimless occasionally and I'm a little tired of jalens catchphrases but maybe a daily structure will inject some extra life. Would definitely listen to them on radio over most other boring ass sports host doods

Also the story of Jalen jacking Patrick Ewing's TV is all-time

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 14h14 hours ago
Random things I'm excited about starting next month, vol. 24: finally being able to go on Mike Francesa's show. This will be yuuuuuuge.

yess

so happy to see whitlock fail tbh

― k3vin k., Friday, June 12, 2015 4:56 PM (15 minutes ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/05/sports/jason-whitlock-and-espn-part-ways.html

*dances*

Not so much happy to see him fail as constantly frustrated that he's the kind of person that gets put in a position to do so.

grantland exodus

movment of da ppl

steve hyden checking his voicemail every five minutes. "no new messages".

i only care about zach lowe

lowe will be fine, i hope he goes w/ simmons cuz i like his podcast, like him providing contrast w/ simmons, and most importantly like him not hidden behind insider (i have insider, it's just the principle of the thing). i see lowe's grantland stuff pop up w/ the normal espn stuff in the feed or whatever in the nba section which i don't think i do w/ the other sports writing at grantland. barnwell would leave as soon as simmons called, i'd hope mays would go w/ him cuz i enjoy that podcast and mays goes a long way in making barnwell tolerable on the pod. apparently whatever site he's setting up will still cover pop culture which idk, morris was the only dude there i really thought was very good (as opposed to adequate, like what you'd find at vulture or something) and he's gone to the times. simmons seems like a great boss but if i was a sports writer i could see debating whether you'd want to potentially burn a bridge w/ espn, which probably is the pinnacle for yr profession. whereas w/ lambert or pappademas or whoever on the pop cult side there's no incentive to stay, espn will probably slowly shut grantland down over the course of the next year or year and a half so either you take a job elsewhere now or later.

yeah as long as lowe keeps doing his podcasts i'm happy, though i do love his pods with simmons

his podcast w/ windhorst was good

if anything happens to grantland all the sports people will just be folded into main espn, it's the pop culture people who might get boxed out

maybe it is more complicated getting the headliner sports dudes because of espn but based on the ppl i have seen so far you could believe they're doing something pop culture focus, no/fringe sports

this is mean and unfair i know but i always giggle a little at how windhorst always sounds winded on podcasts

simmons is supposed to be on francesa's show on weds

speaking of sportswriters, highly recommend the latest Greg Howard deadspin jeremiad re: Whitlock btw

this is mean and unfair i know but i always giggle a little at how windhorst always sounds winded on podcasts

― balls, Monday, October 12, 2015 6:44 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He totally doesn't know how to back away from his phone or mic while the other person is talking so he always sounds like a horror villain lurking over someone's shoulder and breathing heavily

lol @ simmons impersonation of mike coldcalling him when dog left and opening w/ "how much money do ya make?"

o shit

http://greghoward1.kinja.com/you-are-who-you-are-1736728519

that was pretty fucking raw

brutal, and whitlock deserves every last fucking word of it and then some more

i remember first hearing of whitlock on a killer mike song, actually. "that's life II," off pl3dge, where he's like "we not listenin to that sellout shit that jason whitlock writin'"

he was always on that sellout respectability politics angle but feels like it's taken a marked turn for the worse of late. also i know in his mind that motherfucker thinks he inherited ralph wiley's mantle/mission/whatever, he's basically said that he sees himself as having stepped into those shoes, and holy shit does that disgust me, like there probably isn't a sportswriter working that i wouldn't scoff at the claim by but man it sure as fuck isn't jason whitlock

whitlock straight up strikes me as a trump voter

heh - http://deadspin.com/whats-going-on-with-grantlands-nfl-podcast-1737360062

sitting across the couch from Colin Cowherd, who even you would agree doesn’t amount to a ruptured left nut on his best day.

niiiiice

rip

http://espnmediazone.com/us/espn-statement-regarding-grantland

well there it is

where will lowe go :[ :[ :[

wow

i can't believe they just blew it up like that

@MJ_Baumann
Well that's the first time I've ever found out I was laid off via Twitter

klassy

so weird, just a couple of weeks ago they said it was doing better than ever

gonna reckon they killed it out of spite due to last month's mass exodus (like 6 people left at once, iirc) and then a handful of others filed out in the following weeks. apparently those who were will there will be paid for their remaining contracts

idk, i think the rumors that ESPN might have real revenue problems on the horizon are true

heh - https://mobile.twitter.com/bensimmons25/status/659931799196409857

https://twitter.com/kentremendous/status/660161621893877764

i don't think this is gonna do much to solve those revenue problems

yeah i just think it may be symptomatic, they've been doing a lot of penny pinching in various places. i think it's part of why they've let a lot of big name talent split and then filled holes w/ ppl already on payroll.

@BillSimmons
I loved everyone I worked with at G and loved what we built. Watching good/kind/talented people get treated so callously = simply appalling.

grantland was there to humor simmons and simmons is gone

slothroprhymes
Posted: October 30, 2015 at 12:07:19 PM
where will lowe go :[ :[ :[

espn shd just bring him over to the main site

guy who does the shot charts too

@ZachLowe_NBA: /turns phone off

i'm sure they will

senior espn source saying 'we're getting out of the pop culture business' lacks self-awareness

as do a lot of the ppl mourning grantland, tbh

most of the grantland pop culture podcasts folded a few weeks ago as writers fled the scene

was sad to see them go but rarely visited the site

"pop culture" is a meaningless description, grantland always felt like a p poorly thought through idea, just like make "good" stuff, no real identity there