So a new UK music mag has launched ....part 66756564 - "Louder Than War"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jtlWLXy9r0

that's definitely not psych

other than that I genuinely can't figure out who this is supposed to be aimed at

― Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:30 (Yesterday)

there's a lot of tired ilx coverage of this stuff but it is vaguely curious in the way that things written by no-one and for-no-one often are. the various elements might conceivably appeal to some irl people but the aggregate can hardly appeal to anyone. there might just conceivably be irl people for whom 'WEIRD!' is enticing, but there are probably more stone roses fans who would be repulsed by it. vaguely reminiscent of the different ethnicities of remote places for whom entry to civilization means decimation by diseases to which they have no immunity, then the indignity of being corralled together despite limited mutual intelligibility.

so…it's like…..the india……..of indie

who is Stealing Sheep?

― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:32 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Aberdonians

― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:39 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

enjoyed this ftr

they have a manifesto! I assume this was written by Robb?

http://louderthanwar.com/about-us/

I don't really understand this bit:

9. Ignore alien orders was once written on a guitar

In 2011 it would be written in cyberspace.

so…it's like…..the india……..of indie

― twunty fifteen (imago), Friday, 25 September 2015 01:07 (1 minute ago)

the andaman islands specifically yes. the only mode of resistance would be that of the sentinelese, who resist all co-option and occasionally attack stray fishermen or prurient observers.

matt dc quite right re the quietus and it does show how difficult it is for something like that to be anything other than dreadful. if the quietus does have a vital centre it's probably something like the sleaford mods, but as well as the inarticulate early onset alzheimers stuff there is also some connection to the actual routed through the nostalgia. there's a commendable amount of interesting writing there.

this thing by contrast seems to be for the living dead whose initial cathexis with irl music is long since forgotten but who compulsively plough the same furrows.

took the words right out of my mouth

Not really seeing what this mag has to do with The Quietus however

What a jaded, miserable lot you are. Doesn't anyone like magazines anymore? Yes, Louder Than War is pretty chaotic and varied in their tastes, but they also manage to cover some great stuff that no other print publication would, like Dead Skeletons. Seems like it could potentially be a big improvement over the likes of Vive Le Rock, more in tune with new, interesting music. I'd be interested in checking it out.

I'd be interested in checking it out.

How do you know they cover stuff like the Dead Skeletons if you haven't seen a copy yet? Serious question.

They're on the playlist posted as an image upthread

Iron Fist magazine is from the same stable as this and is p interesting/well written if you care about 70s/80s metal and modern metal that sounds like it's from the 70s/80s

tbf its not like any American mags cover a lot of these bands so of course fnb would be interested.
If we're gonna compare anything here I think its a less metal version of rockarolla magazine. http://rock-a-rolla.com/main/

Its also nice to see a non-metal mag covering Zombi at last. (ps Zombi arent remotely metal nor do they have guitar but only metal mags cover them)

xps

xp that seems like it caters to a niche that actually exists though

Iron Fist is very good and is different from the other mags around.

something about Rockarolla's criteria for coverage really grinds my gears but I can't quite explain what it is. just feels like this really myopic idea of what 'arty' music is idk. again tho I think there is a certain kind of listener who that speaks to, I probably know quite a lot of them tbh

this thing by contrast seems to be for the living dead whose initial cathexis with irl music is long since forgotten but who compulsively plough the same furrows.

― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 12:25 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this why this thread has more uk ilx action than anything about new music

oh sorry forgot about the nme one

this thread is as noted above part of the second order death cult that is ilm's fascination with the brit rock death cult

there's nothing intrinsically wrong with aesthetic death cults simply because they are irrational, some of them produce more content than others

the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque

What "indie" mags are left in the UK now?

the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque

― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 10:24 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel like spotify & streaming in general has sort upended my concepts of "new" and "old" music, there's so much old music that is new to me and mixed up with new stuff that's new to me and old stuff that's familiar and new stuff that's familiar and spit out at me from recommendation engines and other ppl's playlists, it's just so easy to skip around from Bach to Jay Rock to Pink Floyd to Kurt Vile to Disclosure, which is basically what I did this morning

How do you know they cover stuff like the Dead Skeletons if you haven't seen a copy yet? Serious question.

I've been reading their website for half a decade.

well played

so the stone roses article is just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion.
I quite like how varied (to a certain extent) the bands are in the mag compared to say the NME but its never going to be a mag for most ILXORS.

just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion of the stone roses as the lead feature on issue 1 of a magazine first published in 2015

it can only be uphill from there. I love the roses but the article is pointless but clearly they need a big cover star to sell the mag.

At least it wasnt Oasis.

It might still cover some ilx friendly music though.

lol i guess

though they didnt even get the cover star for an interview right?

that's nothing for the roses. nme back in the day did that. The roses didn't really do interviews a lot. They were awkward fuckers (part of their appeal)

their comeback with the second coming interview was with The Big Issue instead of NME/MM.

NME didnt like that.

the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque

― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god thank you!

I do like Mansun but that was the biggest wtf for me with this mag, nilmar.
If the cover star hadnt been the stone roses LJ would probably have dug it

I dont see any general mags selling in 2015. Niche mags are clearly the way to go

This I suppose will give you an idea of what they will cover

http://i.imgur.com/ih45qGx.jpg

o did Sealings move to Brighton

all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton

(perhaps it is a different Sealings)

similarly, John Robb used to like some good stuff, and plenty of bad stuff

his "this is the real deal punk! rock!" schtick was always kind of exhausting either way but fair play to him for still being out there enthusing I guess

the cover is really quite unenticing but that page from the inside is slightly more encouraging, was thinking I might pick this up if I see a copy, but then I squinted at the price tag and at a fiver no, I probably won't

most of the mags cost that now I think and I suppose as its quarterly its not too bad.

Classic Pop I think is more expensive

I know what the clincher will be for you rebecca that will make you buy it

http://i.imgur.com/TbpwsR2.jpg

OK, you made that up!

argh

come back Plan B, they gave me a nice DAF CD and some coldwave comp or other for subscribing iirc

(yes, please be made up. top notch photoshop skillz if so)

I have no such skills

CTCL , LLSS and Plan B were great mags

o did Sealings move to Brighton

all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton

(perhaps it is a different Sealings)

― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM (12 minutes ago)

I think they might have been at uni at Oxford, actually, so quite possibly the same ones? (They are m8s, innit.)

This looks fucking shit. Though my interaction with LTW online has always been "oh, a link to that place, it's supposed to be alright iirc... oh no, wait, it's a pile of bollocks".

http://i.imgur.com/8Yum5qK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/u1Yv2op.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9Xds93D.jpg

Are we actually supposed to read those or.....

just letting people know the contents. Sorry if the pics arent great

Please don't say "if you don't like a thread, don't read it"

Help me out here, are we supposed to point and laugh?

...there are a lot less places to BUY magazines in the U.S. now. you can still always find Mojo and Uncut and the Wire though...

― scott seward, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:05 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea that's true, basically bookstores and record shops both of which are sometimes hard to find

also i am not seeing the wire mag anywhere lately, even at bookstores with larger-than-usual magazine selections