Yeah, I'm gonna check it out in the morning myself. I loved Ultraviolence.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 18 September 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
man this is a languid album ain't it, even by lana standards
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 18 September 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, it is pretty hazy and slow. I like it about as much as Ultraviolence, and better than Born to Die. Need to listen to it a few more times, though.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 18 September 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link
yup super languid, I like it okay; freak is p nice
― johnny crunch, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
Salvatore shouldn't work but it does...really well. I'm wondering if soft ice cream = coke?
― Cousin Slappy, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link
xp freak is my favorite
most of the singles are really strong except high by the beach (which is fine, it just kinda sits there), also like religion a lot once it gets going in the second half. almost all the songs tho, including the best ones, are too long
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
Listened to it on the train this morning while reading; didn't pay any attention to track titles, so it's basically one big song for me still.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
Honeymoon has really made me appreciate the variety present on Ultraviolence.
― Greer, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
the cover is rotten and doesn't convey at all the haziness of this album. it's grown on me over the past day; still no UV but pretty good. The production choices on BTD seem very juvenile in comparison.
― akm, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link
yea i h8 the cover also
― johnny crunch, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
I'm into the cover, but then for me cheap sunglasses and floppy sun hats are generally a winning combination, so YMMV.
What is the track being ref-d at end of "Terrence Loves You"? She hums a slippery melody which the strings play off of, some sort of '60s Barry/Mancini thing.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 September 2015 03:50 (eight years ago) link
Ah yes, John Barry it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs8uYxTJ530
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 September 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link
I love the cover bc I've been obsessed with those passenger vans with the roof chopped off for a while now. like can I get one of those as my personal vehicle?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6022/5949320491_83270fa6ef.jpg
p.s. I dig the tunes too.
― Captain Maximus, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link
it's like easily her best album cover, makes me actually want to listen to the record
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link
I loved Born To Die and Ultraviolence but Honeymoon is such a drag. I liked the singles and there a few other good songs (24, Freak and Swan Song) but the rest of the songs leave no impression at all. I'm shocked to see she's getting such good reviews all over the place.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 21 September 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link
Don't know why I kept going in this thread to bash her. The albums are not too bad. Got caught up in the hype/anti-hype.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
I love this. It's not as immediate as Ultraviolence but has the same kind of internal coherence.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link
I don't like it as much as Ultraviolence
Ultraviolence is some kind of weird classic. It's begging to be redicovered by hipsters 20 years from now.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 21 September 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-0919-lana-del-ray-20150920-story.html
Her beef is that the guys in helicopters — not to mention the guys trailing her outside Ralphs or through New York City mass transit — are taking images of the wrong moments, damaging the glamorous but unknowable persona she's so carefully cultivated.[...]Her first words on the album go even further: "We both know that it's not fashionable to love me," she sings, luxuriating in each syllable. This is obviously nonsense: Del Rey has never been more in demand among trendsetting mavericks, be it Kanye West, who hired her to sing at his wedding, or the Weeknd, who drafted her for a duet on his new album. But the line gives an indication of how she's absorbed the polarized reaction to her work, which has spawned as many enemies as acolytes.[...]She ends the record with a beautifully spooky rendition of "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood," a song that two or three years ago — back when Del Rey was regularly taken for some kind of phony record-label invention — would've felt like an appeal for objective clarity.Now it's the opposite: See me the way I want to be seen, the song demands.
[...]
Her first words on the album go even further: "We both know that it's not fashionable to love me," she sings, luxuriating in each syllable. This is obviously nonsense: Del Rey has never been more in demand among trendsetting mavericks, be it Kanye West, who hired her to sing at his wedding, or the Weeknd, who drafted her for a duet on his new album. But the line gives an indication of how she's absorbed the polarized reaction to her work, which has spawned as many enemies as acolytes.
She ends the record with a beautifully spooky rendition of "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood," a song that two or three years ago — back when Del Rey was regularly taken for some kind of phony record-label invention — would've felt like an appeal for objective clarity.
Now it's the opposite: See me the way I want to be seen, the song demands.
garbage music
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 21 September 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
the more LDR doubles down on her aesthetic the realer she gets imo. if born to die failed because there were too many moments where the spell was broken through clumsiness, the more monochrome ultraviolence and honeymoon pretty much solve that problem, even if they sound initially samey throughout...
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link
I now find it impossible to hear her without scanning for lyrics that could be chili pepper lyrics, in part because there are so many
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
She should cover "Under the Bridge".
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
californiambienication
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
they did steal the melody in "salvatore" from the sax line of "careless whisper", right?
epitome of "genius steals" if so.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
http://m.pitchfork.com/news/61340-lana-del-rey-answering-hotline-from-honeymoon-album-art/
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 September 2015 03:09 (eight years ago) link
It's called marketing
― calstars, Thursday, 24 September 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link
wait there's seriously a track that's just her reading eliot?
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 24 September 2015 03:42 (eight years ago) link
yes!
― akm, Thursday, 24 September 2015 06:37 (eight years ago) link
ㅠㅠ
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 24 September 2015 07:40 (eight years ago) link
there's also a secret 2-hour long track of her watching sunset boulevard
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 24 September 2015 07:42 (eight years ago) link
born to die went platinum, it didn't fail in any respect
she owes no one anything, in the real world she's already on mount rushmore with beyonce and taylor swift and whoever else, people who try to insist that she still has literally anything left to prove only succeed in outing their own pathetic naïveté
― james brooks, Thursday, 24 September 2015 09:31 (eight years ago) link
idk how anyone could prefer this to Ultraviolence. Everything blurs.
― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 24 September 2015 09:46 (eight years ago) link
ultraviolence was a bit too rocky for my liking. i never really got into it. i find this more true to her essence.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 24 September 2015 09:48 (eight years ago) link
What are people's favourite songs on this? I hear a mood I like but I don't hear any standouts.
― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
Terrence Loves You, 24, Swan Song, The Blackest Day and Freak are my favourites.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link
Gutted that 24 won't be the theme tune for a series of 24
― kinder, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link
in the real world she's already on mount rushmore with beyonce and taylor swift and whoever else
sigh, his name is THEODORE ROOSEVELT, get an education
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link
also are the black keys on mount rushmore in the real world, they have platinum album from around that time
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link
beyonce, taylor swift, lana del ray. the american ideal incarnate.
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link
i like the new one but not as much as ultraviolence, that seems like the album she was born to make
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link
Crazy LDR has managed to get three albums out in the time its taken Adele to follow up 21, imagine the ink stone temple pilots coulda got if Vs didn't come out until after Tiny Music
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
IT'S SPELLED "DEL REY" YOU FUCKING HERETICS
― james brooks, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
lana del rey and missy elliott remain the two artists that i'm mystified are misspelt as much as they are
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:17 (eight years ago) link
how else does one spell missy elliott
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 25 September 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link
I have a much easier time w/ this sequencing:
God Knows I TriedMusic to Watch Boys ToHigh By the BeachTerrence Loves You24(Interlude)Salvatore FreakThe Blackest DayHoneymoon
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 25 September 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link
also that way it opens w/ "Sometimes I wake up in the morning" and ends w/ "dreaming away your life" and I'm a sucker for shit like that
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 25 September 2015 01:02 (eight years ago) link
xxp people leave off the second T
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Friday, 25 September 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link
eliot/elliot most common misspelling for me, it's obvious at all imo
― niels, Friday, 25 September 2015 09:06 (eight years ago) link
― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, September 24, 2015 7:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"the blackest day" is the strung-out epic that everything seems to build towards, and actually works
"music to watch boys to", "god knows i tried", "high by the beach" and "salvatore" otherwise
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 September 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link
the criticism that it all blurs together was actually my initial issue with ultraviolence but imo the more it blurs together into this sad, inward-fixating, monomaniacal mood, the better LDR is. yeah it's almost oppressive in its refusal to deviate from that mood but her albums stand or fall on whether she breaks the spell - "art deco" comes closest, a lil too on the nose, but not as bad as some of the tracks on born to die (the sparser arrangements really help in this) (oh and obv her "don't let me be misunderstood" cover is unnecessary and slightly embarrassing but i just pretend it's a bonus track)
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 September 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link