even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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this is basically everything awful about paula deen antebellum larping and hipster the spirit of the 1890s is alive in portland at once right?

balls, Saturday, 12 September 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

nothing more 20-teens than justifying yr personal brand of disgusting savagery as "more mindful". not v victorian imo.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 13 September 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

. I like my pleasures slow and difficult. I would rather watch a mediocre film from South America or Eastern Europe about the sufferings of poor people than a mediocre Hollywood comedy about the inconveniences of the affluent. I look up in admiration at models of artistic perfection, sound judgment and noble achievement, and I look down on what I take to be the stupid, cheap and cynical aspects of public discourse. I sit at my cobbler’s bench and hammer away. If the words nerd and geek can be rehabilitated — if legions of misunderstood enthusiasts can march from the margins of respectability to the heart of the mainstream — then why not snob as well?

Who’s with me? Anyone? I’m really not that picky.


i generally like scott but hooboy does this sound like he finished the piece, howled out BOOYAH and then mic dropped his laptop at the starbucks

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link

I want to check his reviews of Whit Stillman and Noah Baumbach movies against that "comedy about the inconveniences of the affluent" line.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 03:04 (eight years ago) link

a good ilx thread collectively outthinks and outwrites a piece like that by miles imo

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 03:11 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, in general I think Scott is a pretty knowledgeable and thoughtful film writer. I was a little surprised to see him publish a piece like that.

intheblanks, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

I would rather watch a mediocre film from South America or Eastern Europe about the sufferings of poor people than a mediocre Hollywood comedy about the inconveniences of the affluent.

Like, his editor should have stopped this line from getting into the piece. I actually think there's a good point to be made about the sheer number of American films (Hollywood and "independent") that are centered around the affluent...but I cringe reading Scott brag about how he gets his authentic enlightenment from watching the suffering of generic impoverished foreigners (from South America…or maybe Eastern Europe, yeah, one of those beautifully bleak places)

intheblanks, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 03:23 (eight years ago) link

- If I'm perfectly honest, this isn't even an American film.
- It's not?
- No. There are no stars. No pat happy endings. No Schwarzenegger, no stickups, no terrorists. This is a tough story, a tragedy in which an innocent woman dies. Why? Because that happens!

resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link

everyone otm :(

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 09:56 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ5tZigWEAAaFpk.png

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 October 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link

oh what a fascinating angle. please do go on.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 01:59 (eight years ago) link

is that a snowflake I see?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 10 October 2015 02:00 (eight years ago) link

don't like it there? move to texas. Everyone is judgmental if u DON'T have Jesus (or jewish analog; no third option) here

all my friends are vampires (art), Saturday, 10 October 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link

More evidence of the need for Christians to feel persecuted and socially outcast, even if there is no evidence that they are persecuted or socially outcast.

Aimless, Saturday, 10 October 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link

I had a Catholic friend of mine express that opinion recently (we are both NYers). It was hard to know where to start to argue with that, it seems so crazy

Josefa, Saturday, 10 October 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

about 70% percent of amerikkkans call themselves christians. which ain't what it used to be, but still...

scott seward, Saturday, 10 October 2015 04:48 (eight years ago) link

In the expensively educated, ambitiously employed, urban circles of the country the % is much lower. And that's hard. For a Christian.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

the right answer to all these people is 'oh, i'm sorry, i couldn't tell you were a christian from the way you're living your life—you just look like everyone else'

j., Saturday, 10 October 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link

To be fair, it was sad how when the Pope just visited the city closeted Christians ignored him in droves and he ended up drinking alone in an Irish bar on 2nd Avenue.

(But I guess the people who did come out were less expensively educated, less ambitiously employed?)

Josefa, Saturday, 10 October 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

going to church is totally gonna be the next hip fad. mark my words. hipsters invading baptist churches. getting baptized in a scenic river. making ham salad for the church picnic. it will be a competition to see who goes to the more authentic olde-tyme church. the russian orthodox people won't know what hit them.

scott seward, Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

dude is clearly not running in the "urban circles" of DC in which a significant proportion of actual urban, actual DC residents actually occupy (see: everywhere outside of upper NW).

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link

It's a not dude and she's actually in NYC/LA.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

It's a not dude

username gold

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/03/dont_you_be_my_neighbor_i_despised_the_man_next_door_and_hated_myself_for_hating_him🔗/

"Maybe my inability to befriend a neighbor I don’t like represents a personal failing, a narcissism that demands everyone I spend time with share my little corner of the world."

MAYBE

carl agatha, Sunday, 11 October 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

Unlike many pop-ups, which can involve taking over an established restaurant for a night or two, the Bride of the Fox will play out like a kind of gastronomic parlor game. Each event will involve a single table, and the meal may be served to as many as 20 people — or as few as two. Prices will fluctuate, depending on the circumstances.

He will choose the diners at random, through requests that come through his website, and he will not reveal the ever-shifting site of the dinner until the customers find out they have been picked. Guests will get the menu upon arrival.

mick signals, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

And then there is the damage the injury has done to Connell’s social life.

“I was at a party recently, and it was difficult to hold my hors d’oeuvre plate,” she said.

http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/8-year-old-boy-on-trial-for-exuberance-6566757.php

mick signals, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

Amazing.

schwantz, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

"The boy, now 12 years old, appeared with his father, Michael Tarala, in the Main Street courtroom. The boy’s mother, Lisa Tarala, died last year."

WTF.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

I almost cannot believe this story is real.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

The Daily News has branded her "The Auntie Christ" :D :D

(she lost)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

Could be an insurance thing.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link

probably and maybe it got out of control after the family death

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link

If it was an insurance thing wouldn't the insurance company be suing?

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 04:11 (eight years ago) link

What insurance company would be suing? I don't think the woman likely had a policy covering injuries by children.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

I guess if this happened in the boy's home maybe it could have been covered by his family's homeowner's policy?

There are definitely auto accident cases where family members sue each other solely for insurance reasons. I'm not well-versed in the fine points, but I think it's along the lines of a driver has liability insurance beyond what he has in injury insurance covering his passengers, so the passengers sue the driver to implicate the liability policy.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

That happened to a couple of sisters from my high school - both were in their dad's car, got in a minor accident and dad had one daughter sue the other figuring any rate increase was easily offset by his winnings. Not sure how it turned out but everyone seemed to think he was a horrible sleazeball.

joygoat, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

Yeah and it does happen in sleazy ways, but it also happens in situations where someone genuinely needs the excess insurance to cover their medical costs. As a French friend likes to point out, these kinds of lawsuits don't happen when you have socialized medicine.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

Yeah homeowner's insurance. Have you ever gotten one of those questionnaires from your insurance company asking you if the injury you saw a doctor for was due to an accident? If you say yes, the insurance company will try to recover the money from the policy that would cover the accident, or just deny the claim and tell you to sue to get coverage under the policy that would cover the accident to pay your medical bills.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

Basically if an insurance company can see a way out of paying a claim, it will take that way out because not paying claims is how they make money. Yay capitalism!

carl agatha, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

I learned a lesson about judging people even when the facts seem clearly against them. Also learned that the media stands to gain by keeping the story really simple. I didn't learn anything new about insurance or capitalism.

Je55e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link

still makes no sense why she'd be talking about the anguish of holding appetizers in court

da croupier, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link

if you've had two surgeries and need a third, couldn't you come up with a more sympathetic description of why

da croupier, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link

good takeaway there, your ability to be critical of any and all human endeavor is impressive

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

I once saw a guy in court claim that his injury had affected his slapshot. He had been in a brawl with cops while so drunk and high that he had no memory of it. One of the cops was hurt much worse.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

for all we know she listed a number of things in her life that were more difficult. appetizer plate is the obvious quote because it makes her seem like a monster or an idiot and can generate outrage. There are like three quotes from her testimony in the piece, my guess is there was quite a bit more that maybe didn't make her look like a fool.

looking forward to this one becoming the new mcdonalds lawsuit among know-somethingish coworkers

intheblanks, Thursday, 15 October 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link


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