even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

the victorian dude giving a lecture on cycling history. that must be a victorian laptop he's reading from....

http://www.thisvictorianlife.com/uploads/4/3/0/9/4309858/3447103_orig.jpg

he also writes about the history of native americans in washington state:

https://digital.lib.washington.edu/researchworks/handle/1773/4505

http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/fish-ins.htm

Do they specify whether they live in "Victorian" Washington State specifically or just the general "Victorian era"?

they say they live in a victorian seaport.

dude looks a little like HOOS imo

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/fashion/hobo-chic-from-the-bindle-bros-of-brooklyn.html

“You can fit any physical objects in a bindle,” Josiah said. “But bindles are really meant for your hopes and your dreams.”

THANK YOU NEW YORK TIMES

oh wait it's joke nevermind

Don't really buy "Oh they are ignoring the horrible realities of the Victorian age" cos the idle rich are privileged to ignore horrible realities in any age.

artisanal bindle bags in Williamsburg, Brooklyn

oh come on now nytimes

okay lol i was really trolled

yes, it's all a 'joke', these here bindle boyz are 'pranking' other brooklynites, identical to their own demographics and sensibilities, with their satirical business and the satirical products that they make with their own time and the satirical things that they say and do all day just for some fun at the expense of anyone who would really involve themselves in such a business for 'real', that's why they are doing this... obviously, it's satire! so satirical. the joke's on us. smao!

I like how the first buyer talked them down from $80 to $1

Don't really buy "Oh they are ignoring the horrible realities of the Victorian age" cos the idle rich are privileged to ignore horrible realities in any age.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, September 11, 2015 11:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this, basically.

not quite bindle-level, but I saw this stylish lady on the E train the other day with a MacBook on her lap (Air? Pro? IDK, it was silver) and a GIGANTIC black leather tote bag, and then she just sticks the MacBook in her giant tote among a bunch of other stuff, no case or sleeve or anything, and gets off the train, and it was sort of making me think about the relationship between style and absurd impracticality.

This person put a laptop in her bag

what is your point

It was an impractically huge bag with only a tote handle and she had nothing to protect her expensive laptop

that's how it works now, especially with airs, people just don't do sleeves. i know. but that's how it is.

Also for whatever it's worth, it's really hard to find a professional looking "women's" bag that isn't a tote bag. You can, but you've got to go looking and if being fashionable is important to you, you probably will end up with a tote.

Also I stick my work laptop in my bag (sometimes a tote bag, sometimes a messenger bag) without a case. Just chuck it right the fuck in there.

¯_ツ_¯

er let's try that again

https://media.giphy.com/media/ALvdHigd2gBqw/giphy.gif

laptop sleeves are for your dad come on now man alive

my backpack has a BUILT-IN sleeve for my laptop because I am a classy individual

it's maybe quiddy to recommend at 200 buck backpack that you can only buy from a swiss website, but this thing is the best the best the best
http://www.qwstion.com/en/bags/backpack-washed-black.html
includes a sleeve for laptops

That's not my style personally but it's a pretty sharp looking backpack for sure.

quiddities and backpacks of the ruling class

no way, that thing is the nissan cube of backpacks

laptop sleeves are for your dad come on now man alive

― marcos, Friday, September 11, 2015 4:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah next you'll tell us your phone has a case on it

My bag, like most 21st century bags, has a laptop sleeve built in, thx.

i don't even have a bag, bro

carrying a laptop around is so 2008

Are we sure Victorian thing is not an elaborate joke?

Laptop bag thing is weird. My laptop is a work laptop and I abuse the fuck out of it basically or at least behave totally carelessly about it. Who cares?

to be fair, "the tablet is my primary work device" is so 2012

many time travelers from 2008 in the coffee shops of NYC

to be fair, "the tablet is my primary work device" is so 2012

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, September 11, 2015 7:17 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

having a job is so 1999

I guess maybe today's macbook casings are pretty strong? Several years ago I cracked a laptop screen by putting the (non-padded) bag it was in down a little too hard on a security conveyor belt and since then I've been paranoid about them.

idk I'm just fucking around, am I supposed to say when I'm doing that I really don't want to hurt anybody's feelings

I keep seeing ads for this in facebook and wondering wtf it is. Article itself is from last year but seems appropriate for this thread:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/05/the-22-year-old-dropout-who-created-nycs-most-exclusive-credit-card/

nah that's just run-of-the-mill hucksterism

I mentioned it in the "not the onion" thread where I first saw the Victorians but I live in WA and my colleague who is a victorian lit prof (and lol steampunk fan) set up an in-person interview with this couple. I think he's sort of disgusted but secretly jealous of them.

Also nit-picking flaws in their system - like using the Internet, how their material goods were produced, etc - feels weird to me because it sort of implies that if these few details were ironed out then their ideology would make perfect sense. I can point out religious homophobes mixing fibers or ask libertarians who would wire their rural house for electricity but nothing is really ever going to get me to believe in a supernatural power or that businesses would act responsibly without any regulations.

i want to hate the victorians in a pomplamoose kinda way, but they don't bug me that much. can probably get a proper cup of tea at their house at least. pomplamoose would be all celestial seasonings hippie shite.

Faux-Victorians seem way worse than Poopmoose. Poopmoose are just a shitty band who exploit their fans but that's on those dopes. Attitudes behind FVs books/essays is worst retrograde bullshit. If it was just a fashion thing then I'd probably agree though, but they've gone out of their way to establish a pretty gross philosophy behind their stupid bike choices.

Also nit-picking flaws in their system - like using the Internet, how their material goods were produced, etc - feels weird to me because it sort of implies that if these few details were ironed out then their ideology would make perfect sense.

Oh, see, no, to me those things are emphatically not details! Like, the fact that they have to suspend those key points is what makes this so problematic and fucked up... the things they're suppressing constitute precisely the sites where the rubber of little lifestyle accoutrements meets the road of a whole world of labor and class and power. Infrastructures are like that - semi-visible technological systems that literally and figuratively wire up individual objects and things to big, big political and material systems. So yeah, my concern is that people who don't think very much about things read these essays and come away less thoughtful about all of the above, because "it was simpler and better back then!" is so digestible and ready-to-be-believed.

this is basically everything awful about paula deen antebellum larping and hipster the spirit of the 1890s is alive in portland at once right?

nothing more 20-teens than justifying yr personal brand of disgusting savagery as "more mindful". not v victorian imo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/movies/film-snob-is-that-so-wrong.html

. I like my pleasures slow and difficult. I would rather watch a mediocre film from South America or Eastern Europe about the sufferings of poor people than a mediocre Hollywood comedy about the inconveniences of the affluent. I look up in admiration at models of artistic perfection, sound judgment and noble achievement, and I look down on what I take to be the stupid, cheap and cynical aspects of public discourse. I sit at my cobbler’s bench and hammer away. If the words nerd and geek can be rehabilitated — if legions of misunderstood enthusiasts can march from the margins of respectability to the heart of the mainstream — then why not snob as well?

Who’s with me? Anyone? I’m really not that picky.

I want to check his reviews of Whit Stillman and Noah Baumbach movies against that "comedy about the inconveniences of the affluent" line.