xp oh I don't know, that seems a little strained. We're not talking about confederate reenactors or plantation fantasists here. Is all hipster beardery, steampunk and old-fashioned cocktail bullshit also inherently racist? Is a 50's sock-hop dance racist? There's a lot of racism today!
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, September 11, 2015 1:56 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Did you read the link? It lays it out pretty clearly why this specific thing presented by these specific "neo-Victorians" in the way they present it is specifically racist.
― carl agatha, Friday, 11 September 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link
It feels to me like the critical analysis, as true as it is, was hastily cooked up (or linked to) by a lot of commenters to justify the gleeful point-scoring vitriol that preceded it.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 11 September 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I prefer the Deadspin response since they're willing to just post a longform fuuuuuuuuck you.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 11 September 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link
It lays it out pretty clearly why this specific thing presented by these specific "neo-Victorians" in the way they present it is specifically racist.
Fantasies are notoriously disengaged from any kind of reality. imo, this particular fantasy is not specifically grounded in racist longings for a time of white supremacy, even though it is deeply committed to obscuring the racist reality of that era. afaics, it is far more rooted in a willful ignorance of any part of their fantasy about Victorian history that does not satisfy their wish-fulfillment dream life.
They are blind to the worst ugliness of Victorian life for the simple reason that this is an attempt to escape from contemporary ugliness into an imaginary utopia. It's as if they were trying to live in a Medieval Times restaurant full time. Or in a Disney World setting.
The fact that they are so freaking proud of themselves for living in a dream world and strongly recommend it as a bracing tonic is evidence of how divorced from reality they are. They may be racist, but if so, it is just part and parcel of their larger idiocy.
― Aimless, Friday, 11 September 2015 03:47 (eight years ago) link
yeah totally. i mean it's not like they just say "we're cosplayers, we like these particular old-timey things, it's this silly little hobby they have!" they're not ren-fest attendees. they advocate for...whatever they think this is they're doing. they've even accepted money from apparently shameless publishers to proselytize for this, on multiple occasions. they are evil and must be stopped.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 11 September 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link
doctor casino relentlessly OTM, cf those dickheads with their "great gatsby parties"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 September 2015 10:15 (eight years ago) link
What is a really random era of history that I can choose to live like? Nothing glamorous, but something weird enough to get someone to write an article about it.
― Jeff, Friday, 11 September 2015 11:07 (eight years ago) link
it's the general smell and grubbiness of the past that people never remember to replicate. Even the upper classes didn't wash that much. No double-glazing, everything drafty and horrible.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 September 2015 11:55 (eight years ago) link
i mean, even just the surface-level cosplay aspect of this shit is all wrong
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 September 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link
the victorian dude giving a lecture on cycling history. that must be a victorian laptop he's reading from....
http://www.thisvictorianlife.com/uploads/4/3/0/9/4309858/3447103_orig.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 11 September 2015 12:43 (eight years ago) link
he also writes about the history of native americans in washington state:
https://digital.lib.washington.edu/researchworks/handle/1773/4505
http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/fish-ins.htm
― scott seward, Friday, 11 September 2015 12:45 (eight years ago) link
Do they specify whether they live in "Victorian" Washington State specifically or just the general "Victorian era"?
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 September 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link
they say they live in a victorian seaport.
― scott seward, Friday, 11 September 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
dude looks a little like HOOS imo
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/fashion/hobo-chic-from-the-bindle-bros-of-brooklyn.html
― 龜, Friday, 11 September 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
“You can fit any physical objects in a bindle,” Josiah said. “But bindles are really meant for your hopes and your dreams.”
― scott seward, Friday, 11 September 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link
THANK YOU NEW YORK TIMES
oh wait it's joke nevermind
― scott seward, Friday, 11 September 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link
Don't really buy "Oh they are ignoring the horrible realities of the Victorian age" cos the idle rich are privileged to ignore horrible realities in any age.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 September 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
artisanal bindle bags in Williamsburg, Brooklyn
oh come on now nytimes
― marcos, Friday, 11 September 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link
okay lol i was really trolled
― marcos, Friday, 11 September 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link
yes, it's all a 'joke', these here bindle boyz are 'pranking' other brooklynites, identical to their own demographics and sensibilities, with their satirical business and the satirical products that they make with their own time and the satirical things that they say and do all day just for some fun at the expense of anyone who would really involve themselves in such a business for 'real', that's why they are doing this... obviously, it's satire! so satirical. the joke's on us. smao!
― help computer (sleepingbag), Friday, 11 September 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
I like how the first buyer talked them down from $80 to $1
― tobo73, Friday, 11 September 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, September 11, 2015 11:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah this, basically.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
not quite bindle-level, but I saw this stylish lady on the E train the other day with a MacBook on her lap (Air? Pro? IDK, it was silver) and a GIGANTIC black leather tote bag, and then she just sticks the MacBook in her giant tote among a bunch of other stuff, no case or sleeve or anything, and gets off the train, and it was sort of making me think about the relationship between style and absurd impracticality.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 September 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
This person put a laptop in her bag
what is your point
― badg, Friday, 11 September 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
It was an impractically huge bag with only a tote handle and she had nothing to protect her expensive laptop
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 September 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
that's how it works now, especially with airs, people just don't do sleeves. i know. but that's how it is.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 September 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
Also for whatever it's worth, it's really hard to find a professional looking "women's" bag that isn't a tote bag. You can, but you've got to go looking and if being fashionable is important to you, you probably will end up with a tote.
Also I stick my work laptop in my bag (sometimes a tote bag, sometimes a messenger bag) without a case. Just chuck it right the fuck in there.
― carl agatha, Friday, 11 September 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
¯_ツ_¯
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 September 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
er let's try that again
https://media.giphy.com/media/ALvdHigd2gBqw/giphy.gif
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 September 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link
laptop sleeves are for your dad come on now man alive
― marcos, Friday, 11 September 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
my backpack has a BUILT-IN sleeve for my laptop because I am a classy individual
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 11 September 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link
it's maybe quiddy to recommend at 200 buck backpack that you can only buy from a swiss website, but this thing is the best the best the besthttp://www.qwstion.com/en/bags/backpack-washed-black.htmlincludes a sleeve for laptops
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 September 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link
That's not my style personally but it's a pretty sharp looking backpack for sure.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 12 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
quiddities and backpacks of the ruling class
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 12 September 2015 00:14 (eight years ago) link
no way, that thing is the nissan cube of backpacks
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 September 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link
― marcos, Friday, September 11, 2015 4:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah next you'll tell us your phone has a case on it
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link
My bag, like most 21st century bags, has a laptop sleeve built in, thx.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link
i don't even have a bag, bro
― mookieproof, Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link
carrying a laptop around is so 2008
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link
Are we sure Victorian thing is not an elaborate joke?
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link
Laptop bag thing is weird. My laptop is a work laptop and I abuse the fuck out of it basically or at least behave totally carelessly about it. Who cares?
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link
to be fair, "the tablet is my primary work device" is so 2012
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link
many time travelers from 2008 in the coffee shops of NYC
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, September 11, 2015 7:17 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
having a job is so 1999
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
I guess maybe today's macbook casings are pretty strong? Several years ago I cracked a laptop screen by putting the (non-padded) bag it was in down a little too hard on a security conveyor belt and since then I've been paranoid about them.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:23 (eight years ago) link
idk I'm just fucking around, am I supposed to say when I'm doing that I really don't want to hurt anybody's feelings
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:23 (eight years ago) link
I keep seeing ads for this in facebook and wondering wtf it is. Article itself is from last year but seems appropriate for this thread:http://nypost.com/2014/07/05/the-22-year-old-dropout-who-created-nycs-most-exclusive-credit-card/
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 12 September 2015 03:29 (eight years ago) link
nah that's just run-of-the-mill hucksterism
― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Saturday, 12 September 2015 04:19 (eight years ago) link