Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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1% for Charli, 10% for Capital Cities. Skeptical of these results.

Jeff, Thursday, 10 September 2015 11:02 (eight years ago) link

1% for Charli, 6% for the 1975

calstars, Thursday, 10 September 2015 11:54 (eight years ago) link

Bunch of 1 percenters here I guess

calstars, Thursday, 10 September 2015 11:55 (eight years ago) link

Charli XCX and FKA Twigs both placed on the 2013 eoy tracks poll, I guess a bunch of us listened to them then.

top doctor (seandalai), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link

Got CHVRCHES, Lorde, and..... 2% for Charli XCX

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

i got 1% on charli xcx - if there's any evidence this thing isn't just "BRAVO, YOU'VE PLAYED ONE OF THESE FIVE BUZZ CLIPS ACTS BEFORE" i'd love to see it

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link

"oooh i wonder if this will tell me which 60s artists I..."

"YOU PLAYED CHARLI AFTER PITCHFORK TOLD YOU TO BUT BEFORE BOOM CLAP, OOOH YOU SEXY"

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

fwiw another chvrches and charli xcx result here, don't remember the percentages

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link

ya i got charli, fka, rtj as 1%s too
and a couple of peeps i never heard of

nxd, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

tbf one can only upload so many press photos into that animation

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

if only i could have given mtv access to my viewing history so that it could tell me i was one of the first to see a big audio dynamite II video

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link

I actually got only 2 artists on my Found Them First, due to the top% thing. On the Spotify spectrum my stream-counts per artist are extremely low (and my artist counts are extremely high), so I'm almost never in any artist's top 10% of listeners by quantity or share or anything like that. Plus I was mainly using Rdio for my personal listening before the Echo Nest got bought by Spotify, so my Spotify listening history basically starts in 2014. But even without that I see only 15 of these "breakout" artists, at most, that I would think I might have found before they took off. I find lots of artists that aren't big, but most of them don't ever get big. Hit-prediction is not exactly one of my skills.

To your question, da croupier, there are more than 200 artists in the set, but obviously the top 10% of Lorde listeners encompasses a lot more people than the top 10% of Broods listeners, so it makes sense that the artists people mention are disproportionately from the handful of most popular artists. Even without the ILM selection bias...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

if there are 200 artists in the set, but everybody's going to be told about the same 4, it's a bad app

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

like, at least sell it as "are you a trainspotter?" and give me access to where I stand on ALL the acts. "Who have did you hear first?" leading to an auto-play of "Boom Clap" and nothing else is a shitty payoff for ok'ing phrases as ominous as "let us manage your prive playlists"

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

private playlists

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

I didnt find anyone first. fuck you spotify.

tayto fan (Michael B), Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

But the playlist permission thing is so we can create your "Found Them First" playlist, not so we can play you the songs by the artists you already know. Did you click through to get yours?

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

ok so i rebrought up the auto-play of "boom clap" page (and auto-play? seriously? that's like a "bad restaurant website" mistake) and the only text is

FIRST STREAMED ON DECEMBER 9, 2013
CHARLI XCX
KUDOS, YOU'RE IN THE FIRST 3% OF ALL LISTENERS

her picture, and below is a Tweet button and Share button (No thanks! apparently all my friends got Charli too).

There's a spotify logo in the upper left corner, the "oh you don't wanna hear boom clap right now?" button on the upper right.

aaaaaand in the middle far right there is 1/1 (representing the one artist i've been an early listener to, despite having playlists with literally every top 40 act from 1960-2000 and every modern rock charter from 1989-1999). Below that, a little white nub.

Now, I had not scrolled over the little white nub yet (gee, with this user experience, you'd think i would have been inclined to explore). Now I am, and it's revealing that my 1/1 is Charli XCX (good info), and below that are the words "Your Playlist."

So I guess that's how I click through to get the playlist I had no way of knowing was being offered until I either a) scrolled over a tiny white nub on the far right of page or b) bitched about this stupid exercise on a message board and was heard by a spotify employee.

As the only information I've been given is "You listened to charli xcx before boom clap came out" - I can't say that's enough to make me want a playlist devoted to this factoid. Sorry.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link

I love that Run the Jewels is coming up in a lot of these. Congrats everyone who discovered some dudes with a decade of experience, one of them who has been on album that went 11 times platinum

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link

smh @ da croupier who exhausted every way to interact with this program then says "this is not for me"

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link

lol whiney "every way to interact" consisted of scrolling over a single nub and turning off auto-play

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

"after I pounded five beef 'n cheddars, I was like, 'You know what, Arby's is terrible'"

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

ok now you're really projecting

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link

dogg, you logged in, used the program, posted your results on a message board (and who knows what other social media), bragged about your weird "literally every top 40 act from 1960-2000" playlists, thus completely satisfying everything Spotify wanted to accomplish with this program

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

in that way, i would say it's a grand success

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

whiney this would sting a lot more if you didn't try to troll me at every possibility

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

i can promise you i posted these results on no other social media

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

the beef goes on and on and on and on and

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link

i inhale it

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link

also i wasn't bragging about my "weird" playlist (only thing i find weird is when a nerd tries to call other nerds nerds), just giving evidence as to why i expected more than a picture of a single pop star and autoplay of their big hit when offered "who i heard first"

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:22 (eight years ago) link

lol katherine

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

da croup, why would a top 40 act from 2000 show up in a "you listened to them on spotify before anyone else" playlist?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

I didn't find anyone first, and I blame that mostly on Canada not having Spotify till late last year, but the playlist that Spotify made for me consisted of several artists that I have already listened to on Spotify, like Susanne Sundfor, so perhaps it's just a matter of time.

MarkoP, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

But the playlist permission thing is so we can create your "Found Them First" playlist, not so we can play you the songs by the artists you already know. Did you click through to get yours?

― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, September 10, 2015 1:57 PM (35 minutes ago)

I was just kidding around really, Glenn. Will have a look at the playlist when I've some free time later.

tayto fan (Michael B), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

Becuz I didn't realize it was strictly hot new artists - somebody had to be in the first however many to listen to Hendrix on spotify, Terence Trent or the feelies, etc

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

In hindsight I can see this is a buzz bin congratulations thing, but nothing in the text actually suggests as much

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

So outta curiosity, what IS on a found them first playlist? Those 200 acts? The rando older acts you spun before most? There's no info on the site and Ive been schooled on playing into their game.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

Because a program that tells you that you were among the first on Spotify to listen to an already popular artist feels even more niche than what this one already does?

That being said, if I had been listneing to some obscurity from the 60s that suddenly sees a huge jump in popularity due to its use in something like a Tarantino film, it would be kind of neat to see.

MarkoP, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

I'm willing to admit I was prob naive to expect some kind of "yes you were among the first 20% to play Taylor dayne, you champion" nerdery but I still don't see how this app is in any way rewarding (and if the playlist is the reward its existence shouldn't be a near-secret).

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

Figuring everyone who found FKA Twigs first got Nao on their playlist.

nashwan, Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

The playlist you get at the end of the thing is new stuff you might be part of breaking next. Or that's the idea, anyway. Mine had some stuff I already knew and some stuff I didn't, but it was definitely worth checking out.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

lol add me to the list of ilxors who didn't know there was a playlist

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

even if you do bother to scroll over the white dot and learn there's a playlist available - you still don't know WHAT the playlist is, other than tangentially related to your being on the cutting edge re: one of 200 (though seemingly in practice, 5) buzzy acts. not pretending this is actually a big deal or anything, no need for a "settle down," just kinda baffled by the obtuseness of how this is designed.

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

if the goal is have me let spotify make a RIYL Charli XCX playlist, it's a remarkably ostentatious yet uninviting one

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link

The playlist is based on all your listening, not specifically the artists you "found first".

I didn't have anything to do with the design. You can tell, because there are hardly any screens packed full of tiny inscrutable numeric scores. And no metal.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link

i want the name of the one person responsible for the absence of tiny inscrutable numeric scores

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

I can't give you one name, but I could give you 1500 names with a fractional culpability score for each...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

I didn't have anything to do with the design.

best thing about it imo - love the colours and animated fx on the artist pics

nashwan, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link

Would love a big ugly data dump of all the artists where I'm in the first 1-10% of listeners.

top doctor (seandalai), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

Cooler to show who was the first to STOP listening to an artist once they sold out...

schwantz, Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link


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