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the most middlebrow act they could find

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

maybe imagine dragons were booked

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

iPhone upgrade program sounds promising?

calstars, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

multicolor bands for your uselesss smartwatch, ipad surface maxi, ipencil, amazon itv, iphone force touch and onerepublic
i want none of these things and i spend money on truly useless shit

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

Includes apple care + ?

calstars, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

mh

i recommend you go a week with it "disabled" (or turned off, like i say) and then compare how different it is

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I like the new OS updates I don't have to pay for, they seem chill

also the only mention of OS X revision's release date was in an on-screen sample email, lol

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

Probably requires handing in your old phone every year though

calstars, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

I could see iPad Pro as a truly great music production device.

schwantz, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

yo infinity guy I never really use it anyway, since only safari seems to support it, and I have accidentally "force touched" a sum total of zero times

maybe you just click really hard?

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

iPad pro seems... really big

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

wait are you guys serious about OneRepublic

hahahahahahahahaha

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

:)

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

yo infinity guy I never really use it anyway, since only safari seems to support it, and I have accidentally "force touched" a sum total of zero times

maybe you just click really hard?

― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, September 9, 2015 8:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think you've missed the many things you can do with it, bro

like all great things, it depends how you finger it

you'll get the hang of it

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link

and let it be known that my touch is as gentle as a feather

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

namaste

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

the jump the shark factor of onerepublic is so great

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

onerepublic sucks, yeah, except that one tune counting stars, because it brings back mems

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

everything that kills you makes you feel alive, is i think what you meant to say

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

i feel the love, and i feel it burn

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

I think what irritates me most about all of these devices is the gradual move over the last couple decades toward a replace-every-few-years model for nearly everything, to the point that I almost feel like a tech subscriber rather than buyer. I also find the rapidity of the tech change itself less tolerable as I age.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

I wish they'd make a smaller iphone

calstars, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

iphone 6 OG

calstars, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

Actually disappointed not to see a new regular iPad in there. First time they won't get a yearly update

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

they might do a quiet refresh?

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

the separate environment tvOS is really counterintuitive to me, can anyone suggest why they're doing that

― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, September 9, 2015 11:27 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what do you mean? It's a different kind of interaction so they need a different UX. It's all just forks of OS X under the hood.

go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Thursday, 10 September 2015 00:17 (eight years ago) link

The diff "OSes" mostly refer to the different GUIs and availability of special APIs on each. Most of the programming interfaces are shared, it's just a different project target. I'd imagine most games wouldn't take a whole lot of changes outside of controls.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 00:24 (eight years ago) link

but i don't WANT to be under the hood

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 September 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

new ipad mini seems like... maybe i finally take the plunge?

where the sterls have no name (s.clover), Thursday, 10 September 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link

then why do you care they're different? xp

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link

Just imagine they are all the same, but there are a handful of components, which we'll call: A B C D E F
Watch OS uses AB and F
iOS uses ABCD, although D only works on iPads (something like multitasking view)
tvOS uses ABDE

So if I'm a developer and I have a library for other developers, it might apply to everything like AB does
If I want to extend an application I wrote, I can use common code for some bits, write a different GUI, and it now works on both iOS and tvOS
Otherwise you end up with stopgaps like the pixel doubling mode that lets you view phone apps on an iPad -- it works because the iPad has the right capabilities for the most part, but it's clunky.

Apple TV already has a stopgap mode, which is the AirPlay mirroring -- you just use it as a display for another iOS device. So basically multiple OSes make it so things work correctly, reduce errors and support needs, and gives you proper testing channels and verification -- they can run automated tools on app store submissions to make sure the API calls are the right ones

Android apps, mostly on rooted devices (which you could probably do on Apple devices, too) can run on other platforms they weren't meant for but it's hacky and a nightmare for developers getting crash logs from random shit they never wanted to support in the first place. I can understand someone wanting to, for example, play a game on Fire TV that is meant for an Android phone but encouraging the path of just shoving the same executable on every device is actually a lot more work than making a native version

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link

too long, do not read unless you are a developer, really

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link

short version: when you design an OS for all devices, whether it's touchscreen tablets or desktops, you get Windows 8

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 03:02 (eight years ago) link

mh, i was riffing on

It's all just forks of OS X under the hood.

but thanks for the full breakdown that's a lot clearer

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 September 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link

The diff "OSes" mostly refer to the different GUIs and availability of special APIs on each. Most of the programming interfaces are shared, it's just a different project target.

also, i just played a little metal gear and i heard this post in the voice of the guy on my comms and processed it about as much.
i m not so suhmart

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 September 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link

if i buy a CDMA iphone outright at the same time as signing up for the new month-to-month simple verizon plans, i know that means i can put a european SIM in it when travelling, but can i also put an, e.g. at&t or t-mobile SIM in it in the US. or is it somehow locked inside the US?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 September 2015 11:10 (eight years ago) link

i think you can - hard to say without seeing the tech specs tho?

, Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link

my verizon 5 is somehow locked inside the us, can't even roam properly with a european sim when back in the usa. maybe they fixed that in later phones?

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

ty for humoring my lack of reading comprehension

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

caek, when I got an iPhone 6 last year it was via my friend with a Verizon plan. at that point, Verizon had stopped locking their phones completely. I think that's still the case. as far as it being a CDMA phone, it was no prob because there are no "CDMA" phones anymore -- they just support the most common bands for the region you're in but I've used both Cricket and Rogers sims in there with no issue.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Euler, you should be able to request an unlock from Verizon, I think, since you've had the phone long enough

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

How portable is the Mac Mini, and how possible is it to use it in some situations in lieu of a laptop, assuming you have a portable display? I mean obviously you can't like use it on your lap on a bus, but would it be realistic to carry it around with a portable monitor and set it up in a café where it can be plugged in?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

Why would you want to do that

go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

I think there is a device you are looking for, called a laptop

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

It seemed like maybe you'd get better specs for the money than with a MacBook, but yeah that looks fucking ridiculous, the mini is bigger than I thought.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

mh, in north america there are two models of every iphone, one is GSM-only and one is GSM and CDMA. afaict you can only get the CDMA by choosing verizon or sprint as yr provider when you buy from apple, or by buying from verizon or sprint. i want the CDMA+GSM one "in case", but i will probably end up on t-mobile or an MVNO or whatever. i asked on metafilter too and consensus seems to be nothing to worry about. thx all.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

good luck lolmerica

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

oh, they did some weird shit where the same model number has a CDMA variation, how nice (what a clusterfuck)

so this is the "support matrix": http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/
but this is the actual list of model numbers: http://leimobile.com/iphone-6-model-numbers/

for ref I have a MG602LL/A and I use it with the aforementioned carriers. should also work on verizon, but whatever.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link


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