Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

If this is some sort of hoax I shall cry.

I'd really love to see it but having seen what was (or possibly wasn't i.e. anything but a title & release date) on that Amazon page a couple of days ago I could see it being almost a glitch, otherwise some form of mistake.

I'm positive they'll put out a complete matrix set at some point -- just would be odd to have both the loaded box set and it out at exactly the same time.

...and the Lou solo thing.

It should be noted that all three of these things would be coming from different labels: The Matrix set from Universal; Loaded from Rhino/Atlantic; and Lou solo from Sony Legacy--so a last grag physical media free-for-all is not outside the realm of possibility.

Maybe! Excited to hear it all whenever. The matrix stuff they put out last year sounded so nice. Getting that epic "ocean" and the definitive Lou-sung "new age" in that quality will be amazing.

Also more Lou monologues!

Why pay through the nose for those boxsets when you can have this for $9.95?

haha! a steal!

Actually, kinda. I bet that would sound great in my '98 Subaru.

since this is the trainspotters thread, i've been thinking about what's left in the VU archives since the 45th anniversary things are done, and the matrix tapes are finally coming out in full... here's what I think is *known* to exist (there are always rumors of other things).
Primitives Rehearsal Tape - 1964
Pickwick Demo Reel - 1965
Klimek Tapes (various Cleveland gigs 1968-69, some uncirculated)
Boston Tea Party tapes 1968-69
Hilltop Festival 1969
End of Cole Avenue 1969
Honeymoon Acetate 1969
Joseph Freeman Max's Kansas City Tapes 1970

SQUEEZE

never heard of it

has the complete epi columbus '66 show been released? also, is sweet sister ray from one of the klimek tapes? how about the various brief excerpts- glass house '67, poor richard's '66 led by cale as lou reed had tonsillitis or something, the warhol soundtracks (stuff like chic mystique), that early recording starting with "andy warhol says"... did the andy warhol museum tape ever get an official release? that's not even bringing up things like the "swan mix"...

the professor tapes and klimek tapes (he did the la cave stuff, right?) are some of my favorite live velvets around. most of the released stuff tends to be from fall '69 when they were on a heavy whole-food hippie trip, but stuff like the jan '69 sister ray/murder mystery (or of course the guitar amp version) is on a whole different level... better than the cale one! you can get a taste of it from the early version from the quine tapes...

SQUEEZE is already re-issued.

Or are you imagining there were tracks left off it for not making the grade?

Oh you card you.

I don't think the whole EPI show has been released yet, not positive though

Sweet Sister Ray is a Klimek tape, supposedly somebody erased the "Sister Ray" part that it starts going into at the end.

"Chic Mystique" totally rules and needs an official release

whole EPI columbus show (and the factory rehearsal) is on the 45th VU & Nico box set...
chic mystique would be cool. those poor richards recordings w/o reed and the glass house stuff seem too lo-fi even by VU standards for official release.

yeah even I can't really listen to those recordings

another rumor (which I have probably mentioned in this very thread) is that there's a good quality rhode island EPI tape from 1967
"There is a tape of the Velvets playing at the RI School of Design in 1967. I have heard it, though that was approximately 30 years ago. The owner of the tape used to tape concerts that were held in the Providence area. It was on a 7" tape reel. I remember the tape well, it was from the White Light/White Heat period and was very clear with a great Sister Ray" [by bobbldr in The Velvet Forum, 2008]. Current status: uncirculated.
http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/live/1967/vu_ticket_670401.jpg

oh cool, don't think I had heard of that before

and of course there is the holy grail of "Sweet Rock And Roll", but afaik there is no existing recording (yet! maybe somebody will clean out their closet some day...)

I think that's the same as "Sweet Sister Ray"

Sweet Sister Ray is a Klimek tape, supposedly somebody erased the "Sister Ray" part that it starts going into at the end.

Word was, that the orig taper loaned it to Lou with Lou promising that he would give him it back, promise. When he got it, he was vexed to find that the Sister Ray part had gone.

When he got it back, that is.

I think that's the same as "Sweet Sister Ray"
might be based around the same thing but i think "sweet rock and roll" had developed into a bit more of a song in the summer of 68 when (morrison claimed) it was recorded, but the tape vanished.
never heard the story about Klimek loaning Lou the Sweet Sister Ray tape. Though apparently there was a big long "Hey Mr. Rain" that got taped over by his sister sometime.

from a forum post:

According to various stories, the rest of that show was either accidentally erased by Klimek's sister when she was fooling around with friends, or deliberately erased by Lou when he borrowed the tape. Personally I'm not wholly convinced by this. Klimek supposedly has hours of uncirculated live VU (supposedly just about every show they played in the Cleveland area, starting with the EPI in 1966), and the rest of this badboy could be one of them.

http://akson.sgh.waw.pl/~kg23187/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1085&start=10

here's one of the alleged uncirculated klimek tapes
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPrtjX_UcAAAJgX.png
he apparently would like them released officially but it hasn't happened yet...

^1969

saddened by the taped over "hey mr. rain". that "hey mr. rain" from june 13, 1993 is possibly the saving grace of the reunion fiasco. prague got and deserved real velvets.

yeah apparently the cleveland mr rain was a half hour long. mind boggling.

that "hey mr. rain" from june 13, 1993 is possibly the saving grace of the reunion fiasco.

OTM. It's the best thing on Live MCMXCIII by an embarrassingly wide margin.

Agree, but also will throw a bone to "Coyote", the new song.

i don't think the 93 live album is quite as bad as everyone seems to think... lou is the weak link, but the others sound good. mainly wish that sterling would've stepped out on lead more -- he only gets like two solos.

Yeah, his "Rock and roll" was a highlight.

When I went to see Moe and Sterl play at the uni, he actually sang! One line, but whoa! Audience shock!

ha, well that's him warbling that one line on the 93 "im sticking with you" right?
just realized that the Peel Slowly & See box set is 20 years old this fall... crazy. i can remember saving my pennies and nickels!

Yes, it was that one.

did everyone read this recent/great article about morrison's post-VU life?
https://medium.com/@TheAlcalde/what-goes-on-524982f49915

I remember that box as it arrived at ours the same day I got us flights to New York, first time!

perfect timing

Yeah! I thought so.

Good article there too, thanks.

.. Although they suggest they didn't do much from WLWH, but they did most if not all of it, including "The Gift"

yeah three out of six songs...
funny that they didn't so sister ray in 93, guess they were too scared. i think i read that they tried it at a rehearsal...

Probably the length of it, they could do five other songs in the time.

ha, great article, never thought abt Morrison being the inspiration for "Tugboat"

yeah, pretty funny.
also wild that the UT band he joined kicked him out! great job, dudes.

just realized that the Peel Slowly & See box set is 20 years old this fall... crazy. i can remember saving my pennies and nickels!

got this second-hand a couple years later, with trade-in of my first batch of unwanted promos as a writer, at local CD Warehouse. Thought I didn't like the Velvets, based on friend who became obsessed w/them in 1993 around the time of the reunion (I'm still mostly cool on the first album) but hearing WL/WH and VU and Loaded was a proper revelation. And the liner notes... David Fricke is the king of the form.

great article, thanks!

i don't think the 93 live album is quite as bad as everyone seems to think... lou is the weak link, but the others sound good. mainly wish that sterling would've stepped out on lead more -- he only gets like two solos.

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I should probably revisit it, but whenever I see the cover, all I can think of is Lou singing "SHINYSHINY. SHINYBOOTSOFLEATHER."

lol yeah. lou really has trouble singing a lot of those songs.

My only memory of that 1993 live album is "Linger an-ah-ah-ah-on. Your pale blue eyes."

Never heard it but his guitar playing was pretty good when I saw them.