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can't someone else just do the job for her? i don't get the fascination with this halfwit hick

usic ally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

I have news for you - they can get even more dimwitted: http://gawker.com/dumbass-tennessee-judge-if-gays-can-get-married-no-on-1728447299

A local judge in Tennessee has denied a divorce to a man and woman on the grounds that the Supreme Court’s recent decision on same-sex marriage means only the Supreme Court can decide “what is not a marriage, or better stated, when a marriage is no longer a marriage.”

Hamilton County Chancellor Jeffrey Atherton is a huge Antonin Scalia stan, and apparently agreed with Scalia’s dissent in Obergefell v. Hodges, where he argued that the justices were usurping states’ legislative power by recognizing gay couples’ right to marry.

Now, Atherton argues, I guess us stupid Tennesseans will have to wait for the Supreme Court to tell us what “divorce” is.

“The conclusion reached by this Court is that Tennesseans have been deemed by the U.S. Supreme Court to be incompetent to define and address such keystone/central institutions such as marriage, and, thereby, at minimum, contested divorce,” Atherton wrote.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

only incompetent person in this scenario is you, fuckface

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

that judge thinks his turds are truthbombs

Aimless, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

why in the fuck did they throw this woman in jail argh so dumb

goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

fine her. remove her from service. order her subordinates to take over her duties. something else besides a political martyrdom

goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

there are going to be kim davis skits put on in megachurches for the next 25 years. thanks, idiot.

goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

remove her from service

can't be done. although putting her in jail accomplishes this in practice

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

so she's County Clerk and not, like, a clerk for the county. i figured.

still. no jail! duh.

goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

Judge's reasoning is fining her will do no good because people are raising money to pay her fines for her.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

(Judge is Jim Bunning's kid btw)

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

I'm happy enough to see her in jail, considering what alternatives there were. imo, if the judge only fined her, her fines would be paid by fellow fanatics, regardless of how high he sets the fine, and the higher it was, the more it would serve the purpose of making her look persecuted. sending her to jail will feel a bit glamorous to her at first, with all the adulation she'll get, but the longer she stays in, the less glamor will cling to it and the more the reality will set in. and if others are tempted to follow her example, they will know the consequence of hopping onto the bandwagon is jail time.

Aimless, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link

btw, I'd bet that she's been getting a lot of encouragement from her lawyers to be in contempt of court, because the lawyers' fees are being paid by organizations with a strong interest in the publicity her case generates and those organizations are the real client, not Davis. she's just a useful fool, blinded by her delusion that her going to jail will somehow result in changing a Supreme Court ruling. and her lawyers know it's all a circus for the media and all she will get out of it is an inflated sense of her own importance and a stint in jail.

Aimless, Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

I was hoping the judge would have some words for her lawyers but I havent see anything.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

This is mentioned unthread, but one of the weirdest semi-related aspects of this case is that the Dubya-appointed federal judge who issued the court order is the son of Jim Bunning, All-Star Hall of Fame pitcher for the Tigers, Phillies, and Pirates(played with Al Kaline among many others, and pitched a perfect game).

Jim Bunning Sr retired from pro-ball and went into politics, eventually being elected as Congressman from KY. He held this seat until 2001, and his replacement? Rand Paul.

Pop culture is weird, and life can be dumber than fiction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bunning

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

whoever said she's "out-George Wallace-ing George Wallace" otm this is v civil rights era in terms of people openly defying established law and proudly martyring themselves. they won't win.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

if there's anything the state unreservedly will never back down on, it's the power of the state

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

i bet her sympathizers are excited she got arrested, more victimhood bullshit to spout on about and get excited and mad about

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 3 September 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

She's set financially for life.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2015 00:36 (eight years ago) link

I doubt it's a lifetime sinecure. Her value as a symbol of resistance will fade to nothing long before she dies, because the cause she's backing will fade away before too long. It will result in a rising tide of money over the next X weeks as the media circus continues.

Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

her punishment shoulda been to serve as a stagehand for the touring version of La Cage Aux Folles for a year.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link

Have you seen her? She may not live very long.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link

yeah, it was kinda like looking upon the wreck of the Ella Fitzgerald

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link

Edmund...christ.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link

Edmund Christ, younger brother of Jesus, never amounted to much

go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Friday, 4 September 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link

Don't underestimate a woman's longevity. Unless she's big smoker and boozer, the chances are good she'll hit at least 80, if not 90.

Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 03:16 (eight years ago) link

i can't believe "wreck of the ella fitzgerald" is not a punk band or something

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 September 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link

It's a joke in Love and Rockets iirc

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 03:44 (eight years ago) link

Ms. Davis remained in jail on Friday, and her husband said Friday that his wife planned to stay “as long as it takes” until a law was passed that gave county clerks like her the option not to issue marriage licenses that violated their religious convictions.

“She has done her job,” he said. “Just because five Supreme Court judges make a ruling, it’s not a law.”

go back to jr. high civics class, do not pass go

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

wow

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

her 4th husband btw

usic ally (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

Collect them all!

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

only God makes laws, iirc

sleeve, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

planned to stay “as long as it takes” until a law was passed that gave county clerks like her the option not to issue marriage licenses

She has obviously not paid attention to how long it takes to pass a law, even under the best circumstances.

Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

that law has no hope of passage or being upheld, it's so sad how people can't follow basic legal logic

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

like, Scalia is right - if your beliefs interfere with doing your job, you shouldn't have that job. it's not your right to have that job.

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

maybe she's hoping Nino will dress as the Dark Nought and spring her.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/kimdavis917/status/640312688539623424

is this real

j., Sunday, 6 September 2015 02:47 (eight years ago) link

certainly looks real. no hint of irony.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 September 2015 04:50 (eight years ago) link

that Twitter account has to be fake

(extremely nerds voice) (Clay), Sunday, 6 September 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link

yeah it's fake, go ahead and look up the bible verses she mentions

(extremely nerds voice) (Clay), Sunday, 6 September 2015 05:41 (eight years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/09/08/judge-orders-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-released-from-jail/

Bunning handled this p cleverly imo - basically demoted her

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

I'm curious what kinda tone the rally will take; will they soldier on blindly as persecution or do this as victory? Or both?

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

how dare the court prevent Kim Davis from not doing her job

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

queers are gettin married in the county, can't see how they can spin that as a victory

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

CNN is/watch broadcasting this shit live

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

Is/was, rather

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

Not a victory for them but they are spinning it that way.

Her original goal was not to let marriage certificates leave her office because she had to rubber stamp them, which she viewed as participation. So her clerks couldn't either...RFRA case law shit all over that.

Now they have changed it to a rubber stamp that doesn't bear her name or post, just the office, and many of the ones signed when she was in jail had her place left blank.

and she and her lawyer are saying these are null and void without her stamp of approval. It has fuck all to do with her personal beliefs - she just wants to stop anybody gay from getting married in her building.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link


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