pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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(psst skot i know i'm from the usa, the real usa too not the east coast)
i still think it's a good new wave soul record, not everything has to be authentic

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

i mean i'm sure out there u guys are like "dexy's? pish posh, someone have my butler send a sternly worded telegram to the great gatsby, i'll be in my drawing room smoking a pipe" but out here we like em

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

as someone who wasn't around for "Come On Eileen" the fact that anyone thinks it's anything but utter and complete shit is mind-boggling

― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, August 31, 2015 1:16 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like, I'm half-convinced everyone is collectively trolling, that's how bad it is

― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, August 31, 2015 1:18 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea I am with you, that song is total garbage

marcos, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

people ask me for pogues records a lot.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

its nice to know that uh the heartland or wherever loves dexys midnight runners though. i guess.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link

actually nobody does except come on eileen

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

i am a fan of "jackie wilson said" anyway. by van. the man.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

Love the Pogues, but a good example of a band that released several great records in the '80s but prolly didn't need a song on the list, save maybe "Fairytale," and even then, I'd put lots of second or third songs from represented bands on the list before that one. I assume no one under 30 listens to the Pogues.

Have the Arcade Fire covered Come on Eileen? Because even if they didn't they probably did.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 August 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link

Dexys Midnight Runners are one of my favourite groups ever. I'm British but I now live in Minnesota. A few years back I put Searching For The Young Soul Rebels on at a party here it not go down well with a bunch of bluegrass fans. It got turned off so people could have a jam instead with several people saying "Let's turn this shit off and get some real music on"

If there are people that have only heard Come On Eileen by them I'd imagine songs like Let's Make This Precious or This Is What She's Like (The full 13 minute version) might comes as a bit of a surprise. They certainly were for me when I first heard them.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 31 August 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

i still think it's a good new wave soul record, not everything has to be authentic

I don't know what soul records "Come on Eileen" even barely resembles. I think DMR were innovative, although I guess you could put it in a genre category with "Our House" and "Just Got Lucky" and maybe some other things of that time.

timellison, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

Eh, Madness was much more than "Our House." In many ways they were essentially the (a) blueprint for stuff like Blur.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

"come on eileen" is a slammer

flopson, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

i love just got lucky! hey, i was a roman holiday fan in the 80's. authenticity not big on my list of essentials.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

"fake" soul and r&b some of my all-time favorite 80's moments. Modern Romance are in my canon in a big way.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

genre tags for Modern Romance on wiki: Pop, salsa, dance, R&B, mambo, electronic, new wave, Afro-Cuban, blues, soul, disco

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Dexies rule.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 31 August 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

"Come On Eileen" is an ok song, as are the other 3 I noted earlier. But a few of you are misunderstanding that I'm happy the list doesn't include these, which IMO were all kinda oddly canonized throughout the '90s and '00s.

billstevejim, Monday, 31 August 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link

Eileen may be "played" (lol is it just me or does "played" sound terribly nonchalant?) but it's a great song

niels, Monday, 31 August 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

tell me when my light turns green rules

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

i love "come on eileen"

dyl, Monday, 31 August 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link

count me in on the pro-Dexys faction

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 31 August 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

dexys are cool, they're like The Cure with trombones

brimstead, Monday, 31 August 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

Then one May morning the unthinkable happened: Chinx was killed as shots were fired at his car outside of a venue he’d just performed.

in the context of the rest of the review, "unthinkable" seems a bit of a stretch

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

An asian-american reclaiming the epithet, I presume?

how's life, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

no not asian american

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

homie, matter fact...

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link

I don't know exactly why it bugs me so much but I could do without ever seeing another album described as a victory lap.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

Would prefer an album declared a band's walk of shame.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 00:40 (eight years ago) link

One for the h8ers... P4k's original review of Pet Sounds.

http://i.imgur.com/stbtNTV.png

Adam J Duncan, Friday, 11 September 2015 09:28 (eight years ago) link

I'm glad Failblog.org finally got a music vertical

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 September 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

you do have to give Pet Sounds credit for inspiring Weezer, thanks Pet Sounds

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 September 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

is that a real pitchfork review?

scott seward, Friday, 11 September 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

yep

he rated the X-ecutioners slightly higher, lol http://web.archive.org/web/20011126210118/http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/x/x-ecutioners/x-pressions.shtml

welltris (crüt), Friday, 11 September 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

misread that as "few people have come close to penning sweater melodies".

how's life, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

'dark side' > 'pet sounds' > 'ok computer' > 'loveless'

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

those are definitely four albums

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

failblog.edu

hunangarage, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

still kind of astonishing that pitchfork is what it is today despite shit like that, like how did they do it, how did they become respectable

marcos, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

i mean that was from schreiber himself not some dumb college freelancer

marcos, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

it just wasn't made for these times

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

i mean that was from schreiber himself not some dumb college freelancer

Ryan realized early on (thankfully) that he was no writer.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

Pitchfork succeeding despite its founder's biases and deficiencies as a writer is less surprising if you've ever read the work of Jann s wenner or bob guccione jr

da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

I almost wish ryan was prone to more "I'm still here" goddess-in-the-doorway moments

da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/birdnestsoup/isley.jpg

individual scores for all the individual isleys reissues makes them look like crazies imo

feargal czukay (NickB), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

when was the last schreiber review? Last thing that comes to mind was him scoffing at cleavage and bad photoshop in a worst covers of the year list and that coulda been in the 00s

da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

tbf, Wenner was a decent interviewer early on (by "early" I mean no later than 1968). Was always a shitty critic, though.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

That wasn't really Wenner. A ghostwriter wrote it and Wenner signed off on it.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

def can't rep for schreiber as an interviewer as all i remember is him making an affirmative action joke at interpol in like 02

da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

his last album review appears to be a best new music for a grizzly bear EP in 2007. That shows amazing restraint, really. he's done some news blurbs since, though

So A$AP Rocky just posted a video for his Buddy Holly-referencing new track "Purple Kisses", which might actually qualify as SFW if you happen to work in a porn studio. (Or, at Pitchfork.)

that last bit is pretty lol if you remember how hot-n-heavy fork reviews could get in the early days

da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link


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