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4) talk about how the song functioned in a film which may or may not have actually been made in the 80s, or talk about the MTV video.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 28 August 2015 00:48 (eight years ago) link

5) display results of whosampled.com search.

Vernon Locke, Friday, 28 August 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link

That Salon article is so useless.

Tim F, Friday, 28 August 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link

there are really only so many ways to write a blurb like this for something other than your personal blog

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Friday, 28 August 2015 04:28 (eight years ago) link

I don't agree. I'm not sure why that's any different from saying that there are only so many ways to write a song or do some other creative act. And why writing for Pitchfork, in particular, necessitates these things is something I'm also unclear about.

timellison, Friday, 28 August 2015 04:38 (eight years ago) link

(or some other venue that's something other than a blog)

timellison, Friday, 28 August 2015 04:39 (eight years ago) link

I just realized they snubbed Peter Schilling - Major Tom it would have been a better addition than those two Bowie songs. It's kind of the unofficial sequel to Ashes to Ashes and Space Oddity.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 28 August 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link

Or if you're going to have a Bowie single from the 80's Ashes to Ashes is the right one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 28 August 2015 06:19 (eight years ago) link

re: Salon; there are a lot of things to say about how weird some of the list choices are, but "WHERE IS UNCLE TUPELO?" is definitely not something that would come to mind

jamiesummerz, Friday, 28 August 2015 10:06 (eight years ago) link

Damn, the 80s were great. You could totally make a Top 10,000 Songs of the 80s list and it would all be great stuff. I don't think you could do that for any other decade.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MXiTeH_Pg

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 August 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p00Cf1-tABo

1982 version superior for inclusion of the word "hobo" in the chorus.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 28 August 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

HOW IS THIS NOT ON THE LIST?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 August 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

srsly!

how's life, Friday, 28 August 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

ha I'm skimming through their 90s list and found the answer to "Where's George Michael?"

best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Friday, 28 August 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

still discussing the '80s list...

Another two notable "re-writing of canon" omissions that would have been included 10-20 years ago are "Take On Me" and "Don't You Forget About Me."

billstevejim, Monday, 31 August 2015 04:48 (eight years ago) link

seems like a lot of big well respected MTV staples missed out. i mean, "Come On Eileen," shit.

some dude, Monday, 31 August 2015 05:01 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that was the other one that surprised me earlier along with "Don't Stop Believing."

billstevejim, Monday, 31 August 2015 05:03 (eight years ago) link

They probably could've dumped something in favor of one of the singles from Pyromania or Hysteria. Even one of the GNR placements.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 August 2015 05:13 (eight years ago) link

as someone who wasn't around for "Come On Eileen" the fact that anyone thinks it's anything but utter and complete shit is mind-boggling

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 31 August 2015 05:16 (eight years ago) link

like, I'm half-convinced everyone is collectively trolling, that's how bad it is

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 31 August 2015 05:18 (eight years ago) link

as someone who wasn't around for "Come On Eileen" the fact that anyone thinks it's anything but utter and complete shit is mind-boggling
--for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine)

I like "Come on Eileen," but it's a real dumb pole to hang your "but white people made music too flag on"

Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 31 August 2015 05:23 (eight years ago) link

Dexys were a fine band, and Come on Eileen was a pretty good single, but the way some people ride or die for them doesn't make any sense to me.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 August 2015 05:28 (eight years ago) link

Like at least start with the lack of Police and Devo before working your way down to DEXYS MIDNIGHT RUNNERS TURALORLALALAY

Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 31 August 2015 05:29 (eight years ago) link

overreacting to the supposed overreaction nobody actually had is so fun

some dude, Monday, 31 August 2015 06:31 (eight years ago) link

is the veneration of Dexys/Kevin Rowland as a godlike genius mostly a UK thing? I get the impression that they are largely seen a one hit wonder in North America?

soref, Monday, 31 August 2015 08:38 (eight years ago) link

I'd venture a guess that most people in the US who know Come on Eileen don't even know the name of the band who recorded it.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 August 2015 08:41 (eight years ago) link

the veneration of Dexys hasn't got much to do with "Come On Eileen"

MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 August 2015 08:43 (eight years ago) link

Fuck The Police

nashwan, Monday, 31 August 2015 08:48 (eight years ago) link

Save Ferris, duh

how's life, Monday, 31 August 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link

Tom Ewing gave "Come On Eileen" a rare perfect ten in that review-every-number-one-single-ever blog.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 31 August 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link

there are about 20 B-52s songs i would put on a list before come on eileen. and i liked come on eileen! i even bought the 45 when it came out. it began and ended my interest in that band. i'd vote for safety dance over come on eileen too.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

Searching For the Young Soul Rebels rules u yank wankers

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 12:29 (eight years ago) link

we know brits love that one. it's okay. we have actual soul music here though...

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link

we gave lots of money to brits when they honored our aretha franklin and smokey robinson though. we really appreciated that. and of course our beloved johnny ray.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link

(psst skot i know i'm from the usa, the real usa too not the east coast)
i still think it's a good new wave soul record, not everything has to be authentic

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

i mean i'm sure out there u guys are like "dexy's? pish posh, someone have my butler send a sternly worded telegram to the great gatsby, i'll be in my drawing room smoking a pipe" but out here we like em

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

as someone who wasn't around for "Come On Eileen" the fact that anyone thinks it's anything but utter and complete shit is mind-boggling

― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, August 31, 2015 1:16 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like, I'm half-convinced everyone is collectively trolling, that's how bad it is

― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, August 31, 2015 1:18 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea I am with you, that song is total garbage

marcos, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

people ask me for pogues records a lot.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

its nice to know that uh the heartland or wherever loves dexys midnight runners though. i guess.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link

actually nobody does except come on eileen

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 August 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

i am a fan of "jackie wilson said" anyway. by van. the man.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

Love the Pogues, but a good example of a band that released several great records in the '80s but prolly didn't need a song on the list, save maybe "Fairytale," and even then, I'd put lots of second or third songs from represented bands on the list before that one. I assume no one under 30 listens to the Pogues.

Have the Arcade Fire covered Come on Eileen? Because even if they didn't they probably did.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 August 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link

Dexys Midnight Runners are one of my favourite groups ever. I'm British but I now live in Minnesota. A few years back I put Searching For The Young Soul Rebels on at a party here it not go down well with a bunch of bluegrass fans. It got turned off so people could have a jam instead with several people saying "Let's turn this shit off and get some real music on"

If there are people that have only heard Come On Eileen by them I'd imagine songs like Let's Make This Precious or This Is What She's Like (The full 13 minute version) might comes as a bit of a surprise. They certainly were for me when I first heard them.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 31 August 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

i still think it's a good new wave soul record, not everything has to be authentic

I don't know what soul records "Come on Eileen" even barely resembles. I think DMR were innovative, although I guess you could put it in a genre category with "Our House" and "Just Got Lucky" and maybe some other things of that time.

timellison, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

Eh, Madness was much more than "Our House." In many ways they were essentially the (a) blueprint for stuff like Blur.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

"come on eileen" is a slammer

flopson, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

i love just got lucky! hey, i was a roman holiday fan in the 80's. authenticity not big on my list of essentials.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

"fake" soul and r&b some of my all-time favorite 80's moments. Modern Romance are in my canon in a big way.

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

genre tags for Modern Romance on wiki: Pop, salsa, dance, R&B, mambo, electronic, new wave, Afro-Cuban, blues, soul, disco

scott seward, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link


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