ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

covers seems like a complicated nomination process which might not run well alongside the big 2000-2014 poll? but I dunno. obv maximizing fun is the point

I'm not into the 2000-2014 poll idea but that's just me

I'm into whatever will generate fun and/or interesting discussion & I think a retrospective poll will do that

I mean, we can talk about pitchfork's polls, or our own. the latter seems way more fun to me

I'll wait untill the 15 year poll is done.

Covers will be relatively simple: any version of a song that's been previously released on record. So Elvis Presely singing Lieber and Stoller's Jailhouse Rock doesn't count, but Hound Dog would because that had been previously done by Big Mama Thornton.

I'd probably eliminate jazz and classical because that would get really complex, especially since technically classical recording is a cover.

also the demo version of Beethoven's 5th is unfuckwithable

obv maximizing fun is the point

That's the main reason I left it to debate as to whether or not we do 2010-14 or 2000-14, because if nobody wants to do a 15 year retrospective then it won't be much fun. We (me, seandalai and gr80) are cool with going either way.

I'd vote for the 21st century poll instead of the last 5 years, which have kinda sucked for rockists like me

15 years makes more sense to me as a sort of 'faves of the century so far' sort of deal. I think it would have more scope and possibly more variety. I reckon putting the focus on too narrow and recent a time span would mean that the poll would be dominated by stuff that people absolutely love right now that they will have forgotten in a year or two. There's always the EOY polls for that kind for thing.

ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS
ILM Top 100 2000-2004: TRACKS
ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS
ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

I figure there's pushback on a retrospective poll since we already have an established practice of doing 5-year polls, and also because people don't want to slog through 15 years of music to put together a ballot. I'm split on it myself, even. But whichever way we end up going, it will probably look different than the results of the EOY polls.

we need to poll it

my ballot
1. 2000-14
2. 2010-14

I'd probably eliminate jazz and classical because that would get really complex, especially since technically classical recording is a cover.

You'll probably end up including them anyway. >_>

Happy for Fairport Convention to jump ahead - it's probably going to be a month or so before I've got the time free for the Nirvana poll.

I don't really believe we'll get much out of a last-five-year poll that isn't already in the EOY polls for those years. I'd even prefer a 2000-2009 poll over that.

The "event" cache the EOY polls in the last five years have taken on is, I think, greater and more of a gathering for discussion than they were all through the 00s (that's no shade on how musically ran them, but I think we just like to talk a lot more at length about the results now than in the past). That's the reason I don't think a 2010-14 poll would offer as much as the 2000-04 and 2005-09 polls did, because we've talked the results of the last five years to death.

At the same time, I get how combing through 15 years of music is overwhelming. I have my own mixed feelings about taking that on, partly because it's just a lot of time and effort, but partly because I might realize I don't like something as much as I did eleven years ago and that'll be a disappointment. But whatever. There's probably at least as much that I'd like now that I didn't really get or appreciate at the time it was new.

Even though it would be harder to vote in, I'd still throw my hat in with people who want to do the 2000-14 retrospective poll. If the 2010-14 poll is what more people want to do, I'd get behind that too. I'd rather it be a good experience for everyone who votes than any kind of formal obligation.

I'm rooting for C Grisso to jump in and say "hey let's do Bacharach"

I just want something. The polls are always a good time so let's get going.

I'd happily participate in either a 2000-2014 or 2010-2014 poll, but I'd prefer the latter.

I can't wait for the Queen poll, so many deep cuts that I want to rep for.

I'm not into the 2000-2014 poll idea but that's just me

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 25, 2015

not just you fwiw

everybody that's up next is awol, basically

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 25, 2015

hey i just figured Petty wouldn't start till like the new year but if we want to get rolling i'm game

pls 10-14

id prob participate in 00-14 but otoh maybe not

I'm rooting for C Grisso to jump in and say "hey let's do Bacharach"

― Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not yet! Having a rough month at the moment, a byproduct of which is me not getting started on my research (I know stuff, but want to know more...) before getting this one off the blocks. I'm excited to dive in!

Fairport Convention next?

i'd be happy to get Queen underway soon, given that the results might actually coincide with me having a stretch of free time.

do it now!

poll first, ask for forgiveness later

should i just open up Bauhaus/Love and Rockets already?

yes

The half-decade/decade=and-a-half poll is on indefinite hiatus because a) there's no agreement on which it should be and b) my life is too weird and unpredictable right now to run a major poll.

That being the case, the path is clear for whoever wants to run whatever.

Cool. I'll get the Metallica one going this weekend.

:D

déjà vu

hey guys, i'll start Queen later tonight if that's alright?

was really looking forward to Fairport, but don't know if that's happening anytime soon

Fairport is next up make it happen

Stone POLLd Crazy: The ILM Queen Poll Voting Thread (#68? in a series)

grazie Bee OK! forgot to put out the alert.

The Fairy POLLers Master-Stroke: The ILX Queen Poll Results Thread (#68 in a series)

Yeah, I am happy for you queen fans and am gonna let you roll out, just want to ask:

Where is the up-to-date list? The list up-top used to be it, but it's way out of.

Just wondering which ones I can look forward to.

Yes what is up next?

Looks like Fairport or Can.

how about Nirvana?

here's the list:

Current active poll:Queen - charlie h (link: The Fairy POLLers Master-Stroke: The ILX Queen Poll Results Thread (#68 in a series))
Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080
Extreme Metal - Viceroy
Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
Can - Z S
Tom Petty - rogermexico
Jimi Hendrix - some dude
Stereolab - Moka
Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK
Genesis + solo - NickB
The Smiths - nate woolls
Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl
The Burt Bacharach songbook - C. Grisso/McCain
Dead C - Raymond Cummings
Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve
John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
Rush - Matt #2
Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one
George Michael - Ismael Klata
Talking Heads - Bee OK
Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
Van Halen - Johnny Fever
Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
Low - aldo
Nine Inch Nails - chap
REM - rogermexico.
Bjork - Eric H.
Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie
Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK
Covers - kornrulez6969
New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee
They Might Be Giants - Johnny Fever
No Wave - sarahell
DFA - Van Horn Street
Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080
Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις
Erykah Badu - Eric H.
Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h
Herbie Hancock - crüt
Aphex Twin - Stevie D
Blondie - Bee OK
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie
Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo
AM Radio Gold - Jeff W
Eurovision - nxd
Steve Albini - nate woolls
Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs
Elvis Presley - Euler
Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969
Cardiacs + affiliated - imago
Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B
Chic Organization -
Stooges/Iggy Pop -
French/Francophone - Van Horn Street

Oo, Stereolab coming up? Cool.

Oasis? Blimey, they'll be fighting in the street..

Stooges? Will we live that long?

I have asked to add Smashing Pumpkins to this list.

okeedoke, just get in line!

Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080
Extreme Metal - Viceroy
Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
Can - Z S
Tom Petty - rogermexico
Jimi Hendrix - some dude
Stereolab - Moka
Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK
Genesis + solo - NickB
The Smiths - nate woolls
Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl
The Burt Bacharach songbook - C. Grisso/McCain
Dead C - Raymond Cummings
Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve
John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
Rush - Matt #2
Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one
George Michael - Ismael Klata
Talking Heads - Bee OK
Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
Van Halen - Johnny Fever
Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
Low - aldo
Nine Inch Nails - chap
REM - rogermexico.
Bjork - Eric H.
Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie
Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK
Covers - kornrulez6969
New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee
They Might Be Giants - Johnny Fever
No Wave - sarahell
DFA - Van Horn Street
Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080
Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις
Erykah Badu - Eric H.
Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h
Herbie Hancock - crüt
Aphex Twin - Stevie D
Blondie - Bee OK
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie
Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo
AM Radio Gold - Jeff W
Eurovision - nxd
Steve Albini - nate woolls
Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs
Elvis Presley - Euler
Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969
Cardiacs + affiliated - imago
Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B
Chic Organization -
Stooges/Iggy Pop -
French/Francophone - Van Horn Street
Smashing Pumpkins - Bee OK

Alright what is next?

viceroy is frobisher now btw

Hey! I'm ready to go... making my poll thread right now!

if that's alright, of course.

Do yr thing