pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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and like... 'about a girl' but not 'touch me i'm sick'? come onnnnnnnnn

maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

the selection/order/distribution of janet and madonna singles is baffling but

Alan Parsons Project right between Frankie Knuckles and Madonna, where it belongs.

how's life, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

the post-disco/electro-funk inclusions are the real highlight of the list and their blurbs are almost exclusively written by deej, tim, or meaghan garvey, thrilling me

this is the main reason i think this list is great

no 'perfect way,' no pointer sisters, no freestyle (unless you count shannon who to me was always on the cusp), no country

agree that the list needs more of ^^^

i was just happy to see Egyptian Lover first thing

welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say that i love nwa as much as anybody but calling straight outta compton the third best song of the decade isn't just revisionist, it reeks of au courant click prioritization

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

on the other hand, this is a fun mix to listen to because these are pretty much all very good and well remembered songs
numbering lists by priority and then having DEEP MEANINGFUL ISSUES with those priorities is pretty much always meh

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

xpost
I felt the same way about Nirvana being on an 80s list.

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

"Love Will Tear Us Apart" is such a mediocre song

― welltris (crüt), Monday, August 24, 2015 7:49 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 24 August 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

no country

George Clinton once called "Purple Rain" a country song in disguise, which is kind of true. But that's not even the best song on Purple Rain (the album), much less from the whole decade.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

alexinnyc will be asking where is: Killing Joke - Love like Blood

djmartian, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

Thanks crüt for the tip on the Slicing Up Eyeballs reactions. Hoo boy! I maybe have problems with this list, but when you're writing comments like "I can't take this serious because I never heard of a lot of trash here," you are a dope.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

i counted 137 songs that i like/love. i don't mind that this list is half random and half the usual. lots of great music. fugazi is ugh to me. their one good song is nowhere near as good as a good minor threat song. also, no B-52s no credibility.

scott seward, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

also, when i saw grace jones on there i couldn't help but think that you could replace ten of the songs on this list with ten grace jones songs and you would make your list better.

scott seward, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

Can you imagine the "criminally excluded" list if they done this ten if not fifteen years ago

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

These lists are always a photograph of its authors current fascinations and canon, and man Ive seen worse

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Exactly. If they'd done this list in 2000, it would've been all Mission of Burma and R.E.M. and maybe one token rap single.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Without talking about exclusions - there will always be exclusions - I would swap "When Doves Cry" (11) with "Purple Rain" (1).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

I'm pretty sure 10 years ago the highest charting Kate Bush tune in the list would have been below 50, this is a turn of the tide I'm particularly fond of.

cpl593H, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

Purple Rain is one of the most 60s/70s-sounding songs of the entire 80s and When Doves Cry is futuristic even now. iow, I agree with you. xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

purple rain is really such a bore of a choice

jamiesummerz, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link

*prince choice

jamiesummerz, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

seems like the UK in general and synth-pop in particular are underrepresented. No 'Tainted Love'?
still, there's something kind of fun about the uber-indie rock site more or less snubbing a lot of college rock.

campreverb, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

don't mind most of the list! If anything, it tracks Pitchfork's progress since injecting new blood almost a decade ago.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

whether its a tendency of consensus, an active aesthetic choice or a little of both, pitchfork tends to give the top spot of their big lists to grand expressions of romantic sentiment - "purple rain," "seasons (waiting on you), "Hold on we're going home," "midnight city," "gold soundz," "god only knows". big exception: "oblivion"

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

I mean, "Love Come Down" and refs to Rene & Angela would've been unheard of in 2005.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

whether its a tendency of consensus, an active aesthetic choice or a little of both, pitchfork tends to give the top spot of their big lists to grand expressions of romantic sentiment -

yeah where IS "He Stopped Loving Her Today"?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

confession - i would have forgotten to include george jones on my Best 80s Songs Ever ballot too

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

dunno if it's the most egregious miss but it was one of the first things i looked for that wasn't there

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

i kinda wish #1 had either been "straight outta compton" in a fit of YES IT IS 2015 or "I've Had The Time Of My Life" with a video of all the writers dancing at the launch party

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

"How Soon Is Now" for the Smiths
"Just Like Heaven" for the Cure

Yeah this is a really boring list.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah but "Never Too Much"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

its better if you start at the bottom

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

I think I've finally gotten confident enough to finally admit that I do not particularly care for "How Soon Is Now." There, I said it.

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

"How Soon Is Now & "Just Like Heaven" are kinda beloved. I suppose they didn't need to place as high as they did, but they needed to be in there.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

if you're the kind of person who knows the 80s canon very well thank you imo it's better not to cross your fingers that the top ten will blow yr mind but to be like 'hey a carly simon 12-inch'

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

"How Snore Is Now"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

is it petty to suggest that no one be allowed to participate in a "best of the 80's" poll unless they lived through the entirety of the 80's

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

yes

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

Yes.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

I don't think anyone who voted in our 50s polls lived through the 50s, but it turned out pretty fucking great imo.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

speaking of petty, he wasn't in this, was he?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

look at the rolling stone Best of the 80s list from '89='90 you'll see that being there is overrated

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

I like when #1's are huge, iconic epics. I think "Purple Rain" is a great choice for #1. It's one of the only things about the list that I really enjoy a lot. After getting all the way through it, at least they closed it out with a really good top 2.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

Good for having Egyptian Lover on the first page of the list but he has so many better songs "I Need a Freak", "Freakaholic, the aforementioned "Egypt Egypt".

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 24 August 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

I know pointing out what's missing from these lists is such a cliche but I'm still shocked at no "Relax", though I may have not done my CTRL+F research that thoroughly.

big exception: "oblivion"

I stil have hopes I will at some point reap the benefits of those dusty old Terrorvision CDs.

Also, I wanna be adored both in their 90's and 80's lists? Get your shit right b*tchfork!

cpl593H, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

I'd rather randomly hear "How Soon Is Now" on the radio than almost any other Smiths song.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

like i doubt this egyptian lover fellow would be on a list by rock critics who remember the 80s well

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

anthony decurtis and kurt loder be all about them 12-inch classics

da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link

If they included I wanna be adored in their list of the 70's just for the sake of it, that would be something.

cpl593H, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link


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