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the best of sold over a million, i think. granted, mostly to kids in malls out of a sense of generational/coming-of-age/rebellion-is-hip duty.

― drew, Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

1)I'm going to buy this the day it comes out
2)My "DGCFAD" thing wasn't a joke, it was an observation, the Nirvana songs in this tuning include: Come As You Are, Lithium and Drain You. There are probably more but these are the ones I know for sure. Cobain tuned down only a half step as opposed to a whole on In Utero. Nirvana were the biggest band in the world when I was learning to play guitar, and their songs are extremely easy to play for a beginning guitarist. Consequently I can play just about any Nirvana song you want from memory.
3)Those Outcesticide songs like "Opinions" and "Talk To Me" are pretty cool, I'll be glad to have them on a nice official CD along with all this other stuff.
4)Anyone notice Nirvana threads read exactly like Beatles threads nowadays? Face it doubters: Nirvana's rock-canonship is CEMENTED.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link

The first Nirvana album I bought was the "greatest hits" one.
It totally got me into rock music.
On the box thing, well, I just hope it has unreleased music and rarities. New stuff.

― Nowell, Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

who said it was a joke? xpost

― kephm, Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but it still stands for David Geffen Company Fad.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

who said it was a joke?
___________________________
I don't get the tuning joke.

-- Jordan (jordan...), September 9th, 2004 8:50 AM. (Jordan) (later)

I just wanted to make sure people knew I wasn't clowning, and that it was more of a "ha ha that's kind of ironic" type thing cuz there really were Nirvana songs in DGCFAD.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 9 September 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

All I ask is that they put the Albini mix of In Utero on it. If it's not on there, I'm not interested.

― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 10 September 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

cuz there really were Nirvana songs in DGCFAD.

well, every nirvana fan i've known since forver is aware of this. but maybe this just says more about my friends being geeks & guitar jerks than anything else.

― kephm, Friday, 10 September 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link

well yes I was stating this for the non-guitar jerks

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00065XJ4S.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Nirvana "With The Lights Out"
Album Description
81 tracks are included on the box of which 68 have never been previously issued. Material for the CD’s spans the band’s entire history from their inception and includes demos, outtakes and live recordings. The DVD shows never seen before footage of the band at rehearsals, recording studios and live shows.

Audio CD (November 23, 2004)
Number of Discs: 4

Still no track listing up, but iTunes currently has an acoustic version of "Lithium" from the set available for download.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The NME posted a tracklisting. It's like 2/3's stuff you can find on the Outcesticide bootlegs - hopefully in better quality. And 1/3 stuff most Nirvana fans have never heard, IE "Dough Ray Me," etc.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:35 (nineteen years ago) link

AMG has the tracklisting as well. Currently cleaning it up to post shortly...

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Heartbreaker
Anorexorcist
White Lace and Strange
Help Me I'm Hungry
Mrs. Butterworth
If You Must
Pen Cap Chew
Downer
Floyd the Barber
Raunchola/Moby Dick
Beans
Don't Want It All
Clean Up Before She Comes
Polly
About a Girl
Blandest
Dive
They Hung Him on a Cross
Grey Goose
Ain't It a Shame
Token Eastern Song
Even in His Youth
Polly
Opinion
Lithium
Been a Son
Sliver
Where Did You Sleep Last Night
Pay to Play
Here She Comes Now
Drain You
Aneurysm
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Breed
Verse Chorus Verse
Old Age
Endless, Nameless
Dumb
D-7
Oh the Guilt
Curmudgeon
Return of the Rat
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Rape Me
Rape Me
Scentless Apprentice
Heart Shaped Box
I Hate Myself and I Want to Die
Milk It
Moist Vagina
Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through the Strip
The Other Improv
Serve the Servants
Very Ape
Pennyroyal Tea
Marigold
Sappy
Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam
Do Re Mi
You Know You're Right
All Apologies
Love Buzz
Scoff
About a Girl
Big Long Now
Immigrant Song
Spank Thru
Hairspray Queen
School
Mr. Moustache
Big Cheese
In Bloom
Sappy
School
Love Buzz
Pennyroyal Tea
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Territorial Pissings
Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam
Talk to Me
Seasons in the Sun

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Seasons in the Sun

We had joy, we had fun?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link

YES.
The very same song.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link

This box set is all well and good, but WHERE IS THE ALBINI MIX OF IN UTERO!?!?!? Not interested.

Crap album cover too.

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:09 (nineteen years ago) link

:(___) That's supposed to be the album cover??

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link

uh yeah, that's what Amazon and AMG have up right now.
Hope it's not final. I was a little disappointed seeing an obv. Rolling Stone cover outtake there as well.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

The IMS sample of "Lithium" reminded me of the general pointlessness of outtake/demos box-sets. I was hoping for a badly-recorded crappy version of a great song!

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, that IS the same picture as the one at nirvanabox.com, so it's likely the final album cover. WEAK.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:32 (nineteen years ago) link

i have 85% of this box set on tape in my parents' garage

― jushinthunderliger (deangulberry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Songs on this set I don't currently own in any version on CD:
(* next to the ones I've NEVER heard, to my knowledge)
Heartbreaker*
Anorexorcist*
White Lace and Strange*
Help Me I'm Hungry*
Mrs. Butterworth*
If You Must
Pen Cap Chew
Raunchola/Moby Dick*
Beans
Don't Want It All*
Clean Up Before She Comes*
Blandest*
They Hung Him on a Cross*
Grey Goose*
Ain't It a Shame*
Token Eastern Song*
Even in His Youth
Opinion
Pay to Play
Here She Comes Now
Verse Chorus Verse
Old Age* (I've heard that Hole Unplugged versh, that's it)
Endless, Nameless
D-7
Oh the Guilt
Curmudgeon
Return of the Rat
I Hate Myself and I Want to Die
Moist Vagina
Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through the Strip
The Other Improv*
Marigold
Sappy
Do Re Mi*
Immigrant Song*
Spank Thru
Talk to Me
Seasons in the Sun*

I'd say it's worth $50 to me just to have it all in one place, plus I want that DVD. Out of the ones I have heard, some I have on an 8 year old cassette dub, most not at all anymore. I just won't buy a PS2 game or whatever else I'd otherwise piss away $50 on this month.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i am wondering how many of these songs are mislabelled or alternate titles. also, their inclusion of beans and mv really shows that they're scraping the bottom of the barrel on this one.

― jushinthunderliger (deangulberry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Eh, I dunno about that. Beans, while pointless filler, was on all those mid 90s bootlegs, so might as well. As far as MV goes, as they're rounding up all the b-sides and comp tracks here, why leave it out?

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link

this is like 75% suck (assuming they have better copies of these things than were previously available)

― jushinthunderliger (deangulberry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link

So don't buy it, Dean.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:03 (nineteen years ago) link

but i have to!

― jushinthunderliger (deangulberry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the most thorough exam. of this whole thing appears to be in this month's WORD mag. i dont work for that mag by the way, i must have mentioned it about a dozen times on ilx of late.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"WHERE IS THE ALBINI MIX OF IN UTERO!?!?!?"

My money is on seeing it as the second disc of a "Deluxe Edition" (ala "What's Going On" & "Catch A Fire") sometime in the next couple of years.

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Streaming video trailer for the box set:

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/ume/nbx/boxsettrailer.asx
http://boss.streamos.com/qtime/ume/nbx/boxsettrailer.mov
http://boss.streamos.com/real/ume/nbx/boxsettrailer.ram

This makes me pretty excited, its hyperbole aside ("the last great rock band" my ass). Kurt playing drums on "Seasons in the Sun," yow!

― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

the music on that video is pretty good.

― King Korn Karn, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

the box is wonderful... every Nirvana fan's dream.

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

'Based on customer purchases, this is the #2 Early Adopter Product in Alternative Rock.'

What, start 'em young?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I read the 'Word' article about this box set, it makes it sound like the most depressing thing ever released. I don't know whether it is, or whether it's just a knock-on effect of the accepted way to write about Nirvana these days. Anyway, I don't like 'Word', it is insufferably smug. I was a bit pissed off for paying for it, but at least it will help make sure I don't pay for the box set, so quite a good investment.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Around £36-£38 pounds, it seems.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Seasons in the Sun
We had joy, we had fun?
-- Ned Raggett (ne...) (webmail), November 10th, 2004. (link)

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YES.
The very same song.
-- Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (aaronh...) (webmail), November 10th, 2004. (link)

yes, but it's the "we had arsenal on the run" version.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Although the fact that one issue of 'Word' costs a thumping 10% of the price of the box set makes the latter look quite a good buy.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 12 November 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I've preordered mine from Amazon.

― Every country has their stupid (AaronHz), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

cover is on metallic finish. DVD is OK-ish, though you pretty much gotta like handheld cams. disc one is nearly unlistenable, literally--sounds like shit. still need top play discs two and three. For Fans Only.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link

and I'm a fan, but I'm thinking nuh-uh.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Damn, that's disappointing -- I had this fantasy that it would be all those Outcesticide tracks polished to sound really nice. I'll still buy the damned thing, of course.

― Nostalgia for the Old Cineramadome (Ben Boyer), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

sounds like they really should have called the thing 'Beat the Boots'

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

but there's a *lot* of good stuff that's ot been bootlegged before. and the second disk soesn't sound *that* bad - not much worse than Bleach, in places. i mean, i wouldn't flush the Ayler box just because the fidelity is sketchy in places (and there's nothing as crapppy as the worst tapes on there)

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

tell me more! tell me more!

― nicetrooper, Friday, 19 November 2004 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

the Leadbelly covers are charming, very varied in mood - one almost feels like a drinking song. the in utero demos are raw and excellent - there's one of scentless apprentice which is a 10 minute take during which they actually write the song (you can hear that titanic drum break being born). the solo demos of 'all apologies' and 'you know you're right' are breath-taking, the early stuff is fascinating in the way they depict Nirvana as Melvins clones slowly developing their own identity.

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

actually, my review ran today in the stranger - my thoughts are a smidgeon more lucid there...

http://thestranger.com/2004-11-18/music4.html

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 19 November 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, definitely for fans only. And if you are a fan it's pretty dissapointing in as much as you probably already have everything on the box via bootlegs. Most of the reviews I've seen so far have been predictably reverent. Although the Word piece seemed a little suspicious and the review in the new Mojo pans it pretty hard and points out that Courtney may be saving the best stuff off Cobain's home tapes for a "solo release" where she gets all the money.

― mcorte, Friday, 19 November 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The best part of this is the DVD. In fact, for big fans I'd say that it's the only reason to buy it.

Like the Beatles, Nirvana has been so thoroughly bootlegged that I'm not really sure what is useful about this release other than the DVD. I mean, how many hard core fans haven't bothered to pick up the bootlegs via trading circles or Bit Torrent over the past three years. The extra three years it took to deliver this set probably cost 100,000 in sales--at least that many people, probably more, got all these tracks in comparable quality for free. Wake up, record labels.

― don weiner, Friday, 19 November 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

And if you are a fan it's pretty dissapointing in as much as you probably already have everything on the box via bootlegs.

Advantageously for me, perhaps, while I consider myself something of a fan I never shelled out for the bootlegs (file searching, that I could have done, but I was downloading other things). So in respects, this set sounds perfect for the likes of me!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Same here, bought maybe 1 Nirvana boot, none of which is duplicated here.

I don't think you can really blame Nirvana for releasing these tracks. "You can't sell that music, we already bought a shoddier version off those guys who bootlegged you". That doesn't make sense. I love bootlegs but come on, these guys aren't exactly Robin Hood, y'know?

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 19 November 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

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