Maintaining a Digital Music Collection

I'm pretty sure I bought my 160 GB Classic for under $300. Nice to know there is that option now, but boy, what a ripoff.

I think you can still get new 160GB Classics on Ebay for less than that 128GB iPod touch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BkUG-vnUEA

I've had an iPod touch for a while now (5th gen, 32gb) and tbh I've been pretty satisfied with it. I don't use it as much now since I have an iPhone, but I did for a couple years. The battery life is pretty good imo especially if you only use it to play music, if you are browsing the web and shit and using the screen a lot it will obviously use up more battery. I need to charge my iPhone more because I am of course using it for all the non-music features too. since iPod doesn't have cellular data I didn't really use the web or apps that much, unless I was at home. It also charges super fast, like it gets to 100% in like less than a half hour ime

I know it has its fans by th click wheel blows ime, I much prefer the touch screen. We have an iPod classic too and I hate it, so tedious to use

Why would people pay $399 for a 128GB Ipod when they can get a 128GB Fiio X1 for one third of the price?

Doesn't that thing have a 5000-song limit?

They've fixed that problem about 6 months ago with new firmware. I've got an X1, I'd definitely recomend it.

No, the problem hasn't been yet fixed. You can have as many songs as you want on the memory card, and you can browse through them all via folder view, that's not a problem... But if you want to browse them by category (album/artist/genre/etc), at the moment the X1 can't index more than 5800 songs. For me, it's not a problem because I only have FLACs on the player, so I won't be going over 5800 limit, and I prefer the folder view anyway. (The latest firmware added a neat optional feature called "play through folders", where the player players jumps to the next folder after the previous one has been played through... So, for example, if I have 4 Bach albums in the "classical" folder, they'll play in a row without having to change.)

Fiio has promised that a new firmware that'll solve the 5800 limit problem will be released this month, though. They already solved it for the X3, so I'm hoping they'll keep their promise. In general they are pretty good at taking in customer feedback and tailoring their firmware updates based on what people want.

"without having to change albums"

Aaaah, I only ever browse by folder so it's not a problem I've encountered! *hangs head in shame*

I'll pay a premium to have a (presumably) seamless link between iTunes and my iPod. $400 for a device with less HD space and less direct functionality than an 8-year-old iPod Classic is crazy though.

Everyone is caught in this weird gap because Toshiba stopped making those tiny hard drives, and flash memory prices haven't caught up yet. Give it a year or two though, and 256 GB players will be everywhere.

But the Classic hardware isn't otherwise coming back, sadly.

We were trying to listen to a podcast in the car on my gf's iPhone this weekend, and trying to advance to a specific spot in the recording was an exercise in complete futility. Constantly reminded of reasons why I cling tenaciously to my slowly dying Classic.

256 GB thumb drives can be found for $75 - I just bought a microscopic 64 GB one ($26) that practically disappears in the dashboard.

I doubt there's much interest from manufacturers in the larger sizes of portable music player, its a small market.

My dream audio player would be a small screen/ long battery life / good 'phone preamp player like the old Cowon iAudios, dispensing with onboard memory but instead supporting the high capacity microSD cards. They could sell it with a throwaway 1-2 GB microSD, and users could upgrade to 128 GB (or higher) as budget permits.

i <3 my Cowon

Oh wow, that Fiio X1 mentioned above is almost perfect. Good sound chip, microSD support up to 128 GB. The only place it falls down is the battery life (12 h), but one could always bring a $10 "lipstick" battery around to triple the playtime.

I have a used X5, to my mind even better: dual micro sd slots for a max cap of 256gb. And you can stick an otg sd adapter into the micro usb slot if you feel you have to have a THIRD 128gb card in the mix.

However, I just keep coming back to my rockboxed Sansa Clips (micro sd memory) which are so light they don't even unplug from the headphones if I drop them

trying to advance to a specific spot in the recording was an exercise in complete futility.
It's easy once you know how - while you're moving the position in the progress bar, move your finger *down* and you'll be able to finetune the exact position.

Not sure where to post this as it's only tangentially related to going digital, but I cannot believe the Columbia House Record Club just now filed for bankruptcy. I just assumed those clubs went out of business a decade ago...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/08/12/columbia_house_bankrupt_mail_order_cd_club_s_owner_finally_going_out_of.html

Samsung unveils 2.5-inch 16TB SSD: The world’s largest hard drive

Neil Young can finally live in a van and drive around solving mysteries without sacrificing even a bit of fidelity

how this didn't happen before is puzzling, but I have finally hit the point in my music collection where I have multiple instances of separate artists sharing the same name/band name. what do people generally do about this?

I either put their location or decade in the artist field for the one I listen to less often. e.g. The Charlatans UK I simply have as The Charlatans while the American psych band is labeled The Charlatans [60s].

Anyone know of a tool that will scan your mp3s for covers lower than a given res, I.e. all covers under 200x200?

a brute-force way would be to extract all cover art to a single directory (jriver can do this) then sort by size or res. unwieldy, but

Anyone know of a tool that will scan your mp3s for covers lower than a given res, I.e. all covers under 200x200?

If you're on OS X, this script will do it: http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=sortbyartworksize

So I'm moving to Android but I'm pretty addicted to my iTunes star ratings and playlists / smart playlists.

You can't actually use Apple Music on Android to sync mp3s. I think I want to avoid depending on having my library in iCloud.

iSyncr looks plausible but Rocket Player is kinda ...

Help? I'm afraid.

I'm very happy using plex these days for my digital collection (most everything new these days is added in apple music though, but for my 'legacy' file collection, and for video files, plex works great; good interface, app that runs on appletv now, etc)

iSyncr is great (one of the few that isn't painfully slow with large libraries), you don't specifically need Rocket Player, it also works with any other player.

Plex is cool but extremely slow with sync and you can't play synced songs with other players.

Plex looks nice, but for some reason it doesn't stream lossless files, only MP3s. FLACs and other lossless files are transcoded into MP3s. So I'm still using Subsonic, which doesn't transcode unless you want it to.

I didn't even realize that; hopefully they'll fix that at some point but it's no dealbreaker for me. but, I'll look into subsonic as well

Plex does stream lossless audio it seems.

That thread you posted only has people talking about Flex transcoding FLACs to MP3. I have Flex on the computer, and I've tried to stream FLACs to my receiver and Bluray player, but it always transcodes them. There simply isn't an option to have it stream them without trabscoding, like there is in Subsonic.

If the payer (in this case, an Android phone) supports FLAC, it will stream FLAC lossless. If the player doesn't, then it will transcode.

That doesn't seem to be the case... My receiver and bluray player support FLAC and I can stream FLAC lossless into them via Subsonic, but I can't do that with Flex. Like I said, there simply isn't an option in Flex settings where you can turn transcoding off, it always does that automatically.

Their own support page page says so:

Direct Play Music Support

The following audio formats are usually supported for music playback:

MP3
M4A

Tip!: Other audio formats such as FLAC or ALAC will be transcoded by your Plex Media Server to be compatible.

Hmm, looks like that page is only for the Smart TV app... So maybe you can stream lossless files into an Android device, but you can't do that with networked receivers or bluray players.

can anyone recommend a good player to sync my Rockboxed Sansa Clip+ with my desktop? I've tried a few, but none are totally satisfactory, i.e.

Mediamonkey - allows me to sync the device (i.e. play and delete files and drag-and-drop to transfer) but it uses a lot of memory and it's pathetically slow at monitoring folders and adding files, which is a deal-breaker due to the size of my music library.

Foobar2000 - very efficient w/r/t managing my library but unfortunately doesn't sync with the Sansa. I can add files to the device via Folder Operations (basically just c&p-ing them into the directory) but I can't delete anything or display the contents of the device in the browser.

Musicbee - almost as fast as Foobar2000, but syncing is weird: files on the device show up as a separate music library, but files on the external SD card show up as storage and can only be managed on a folder-by-folder basis (screenshot)

Musicbee is the best of the three (and the folder display isn't the worst thing in the world) but I'm wondering if there are any better options out there.

I'm not sure on this one. I use rockboxed Clip+'s a lot but I have always been content to do manual drag and drop.

yeah, it's not a major complaint, and at least with Musicbee I can add and delete files with a single program rather than resorting to Windows Explorer. overall I'm satisfied with the ease of use, though I'm a little creeped out by the cultlike Rockbox adoration I've encountered on various forums.

I experienced a weird Itunes bug last week and figured this was the best thread for it.

For some reason the last time I updated Itunes, about a month or so ago, it decided to delete the first two songs on every album I ripped from a CD over the past two years. I have no idea how that happened. It'd be nice to know so I can avoid it for any future updates. I spent like six hours last week re-ripping all the CDs I've ripped the past few years.

avoid using itunes

(first!)

(sorry, but also true)

Lol, good advice. I would but I've spent bloody years cultivating multiple playlists. I'm married to Itunes, unfortunately.

It might be too late for this, but one option is not to use automatic library management. i.e. it doesn't put music in the iTunes folder, it just links to where the music is on your hard drive.

So our new house is not, for some time (years probably) going to have storage for more than a few hudnred CDs. Which means 1500+ in storage boxes in the loft or garage. Which probably means going digital, streaming, multi-room.

So recommend me hardware. Let's say we're starting from scratch with a hi-fi and a shitload of CDs. It'd be nice to be able to have digital radio too, and maybe stream from another source (such as vinyl) as well as files. What hardware do we need? What's simple and sounds good?

there's a separate thread for that but a fun solution (depending on your budget among other things) could be hooking up a Bluesound Vault to ethernet and the best amp/speakers you can afford and then placing stand alone Bluesound speakers in the other rooms where you want sound

http://www.bluesound.com/en-eu/products/vault-2/?cl

There's a thread here and a good overview of current options at The Wirecutter. As mentioned in the other thread I'm a big fan of Sonos. Not cheap but so easy to set up and use and seamlessly play music from multiple services/sources. You'd need a Sonos Connect to get your existing hi-fi/speakers/turntable on the network, and then Sonos speakers for whichever other rooms you want music in.

Bluesound we'd seen in our local Sevenoaks, and it looks good, but expensive. Popped in a local independent hi-fi shop and they've recommended Yamaha Musiccast + a NAS drive + a Yamaha Musiccast-enabled speakers, which works out several hundred quid cheaper than a Bluesound Vault + speaker.

Lol, good advice. I would but I've spent bloody years cultivating multiple playlists. I'm married to Itunes, unfortunately.

― Rod Steel (musicfanatic)

i'm in the same boat, and my solution is to never allow it to update. i've found that nothing good ever comes from new versions of itunes.