Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

and he teaches at my university

he's been housed w/ law ppl forever

news on the clerk who won't do her job:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/31/436431204/kentucky-clerk-s-request-for-a-stay-is-denied-by-u-s-supreme-court?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150831

that clerk is in contempt of court and seems hellbent on martyrdom. I guess we'll soon know how ardently she desires to go to jail.

I think she'll resign now — she'll be a more effective martyr outside the pokey.

she'll also earn more from the organizations that will sponsor her speaking tour

Good thing. She's about to get fired this morning.

Despite a Supreme Court ruling that compelled a Rowan County clerk in Kentucky to give out marriage licenses to gay couples, Kim Davis refused to comply once again on Tuesday morning by denying marriage licenses to everyone.

Ryland Barton, a reporter for Kentucky Public Radio, reports that Davis said she made the decision "under God's authority."

Randy Smith, leading the group supporting Davis, said he knows following their instruction to "stand firm" might mean Davis goes to jail.

"But at the end of the day, we have to stand before God, which has higher authority than the Supreme Court," he said.

otm

reminds me of Nixon intoning, "Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the greatest philosopher."

even odds she offered every hetero couple that exited her office door a "blessed day"

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ccdtTNzx1r14o02o1_400.gif

How is she not fired and/or in jail yet

her position was elected?

Stephen Prothero has a book coming out about how the subjects of culture war seem to always be about shit that conservatives will lose, b/c ultimately what fuels the aggrieved entitlement, rage, and straight ressentiment of modern rightwingers is the sense of loss and endangerment/martyrdom.

So they pick shit that's pretty much already been decided and moved on from by everybody else and make their last stand there, which is why you got all those assholes going after Sandra Fluke & contraception in 2012 and why they're attacking the 14th Amendment now. Of course, losing the cultural way tends to fuel them winning elections.

He gave a talk summarizing this stuff last year:

http://religionandpolitics.org/2014/12/10/do-liberals-always-win-an-interview-with-stephen-prothero/

County clerks are elected? wtf

Welcome to flyover country, I guess. (I'd be interested to know the ratio of appointed to elected in the US.)

Here in King County, WA (pop. 2 million+), we elect our elections clerk, so not just flyover country.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/uncucumbered/want_kentucky_clerk_kim_davis_fired_rowan_county_officials_are_trying

i wonder if there are any other jobs she could get that involve filing paperwork

She could always open up a bakery. That seems to be a hot industry for bigots lately.

when will the homos respect the straights rights to discriminate against them come on it's only fair

Her whole office has been summoned to a contempt hearing: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/kim-davis-rowan-staff-ordered-court

is someone going to explain the separation of church and state to them

"They want us to accept their beliefs and their ways. But they won't accept our beliefs and our ways."

the logic, it is blinding

explain it to me – I'm marrying the filthy motherfuckers

Someone needs to ask her, on camera, "Since you obviously had no intention of issuing the licenses regardless of what the Court says, why did you bother with the pretense? Isn't it a sin to lie like that?"

"Also, what's the deal with those clothes?"

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/kim-davis-found-in-contempt-and-taken-into-federal-custody-by-us-marshals/

can't someone else just do the job for her? i don't get the fascination with this halfwit hick

I have news for you - they can get even more dimwitted: http://gawker.com/dumbass-tennessee-judge-if-gays-can-get-married-no-on-1728447299

A local judge in Tennessee has denied a divorce to a man and woman on the grounds that the Supreme Court’s recent decision on same-sex marriage means only the Supreme Court can decide “what is not a marriage, or better stated, when a marriage is no longer a marriage.”

Hamilton County Chancellor Jeffrey Atherton is a huge Antonin Scalia stan, and apparently agreed with Scalia’s dissent in Obergefell v. Hodges, where he argued that the justices were usurping states’ legislative power by recognizing gay couples’ right to marry.

Now, Atherton argues, I guess us stupid Tennesseans will have to wait for the Supreme Court to tell us what “divorce” is.

“The conclusion reached by this Court is that Tennesseans have been deemed by the U.S. Supreme Court to be incompetent to define and address such keystone/central institutions such as marriage, and, thereby, at minimum, contested divorce,” Atherton wrote.

only incompetent person in this scenario is you, fuckface

that judge thinks his turds are truthbombs

why in the fuck did they throw this woman in jail argh so dumb

fine her. remove her from service. order her subordinates to take over her duties. something else besides a political martyrdom

there are going to be kim davis skits put on in megachurches for the next 25 years. thanks, idiot.

remove her from service

can't be done. although putting her in jail accomplishes this in practice

so she's County Clerk and not, like, a clerk for the county. i figured.

still. no jail! duh.

Judge's reasoning is fining her will do no good because people are raising money to pay her fines for her.

(Judge is Jim Bunning's kid btw)

I'm happy enough to see her in jail, considering what alternatives there were. imo, if the judge only fined her, her fines would be paid by fellow fanatics, regardless of how high he sets the fine, and the higher it was, the more it would serve the purpose of making her look persecuted. sending her to jail will feel a bit glamorous to her at first, with all the adulation she'll get, but the longer she stays in, the less glamor will cling to it and the more the reality will set in. and if others are tempted to follow her example, they will know the consequence of hopping onto the bandwagon is jail time.

btw, I'd bet that she's been getting a lot of encouragement from her lawyers to be in contempt of court, because the lawyers' fees are being paid by organizations with a strong interest in the publicity her case generates and those organizations are the real client, not Davis. she's just a useful fool, blinded by her delusion that her going to jail will somehow result in changing a Supreme Court ruling. and her lawyers know it's all a circus for the media and all she will get out of it is an inflated sense of her own importance and a stint in jail.

I was hoping the judge would have some words for her lawyers but I havent see anything.

This is mentioned unthread, but one of the weirdest semi-related aspects of this case is that the Dubya-appointed federal judge who issued the court order is the son of Jim Bunning, All-Star Hall of Fame pitcher for the Tigers, Phillies, and Pirates(played with Al Kaline among many others, and pitched a perfect game).

Jim Bunning Sr retired from pro-ball and went into politics, eventually being elected as Congressman from KY. He held this seat until 2001, and his replacement? Rand Paul.

Pop culture is weird, and life can be dumber than fiction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bunning

whoever said she's "out-George Wallace-ing George Wallace" otm this is v civil rights era in terms of people openly defying established law and proudly martyring themselves. they won't win.

if there's anything the state unreservedly will never back down on, it's the power of the state

i bet her sympathizers are excited she got arrested, more victimhood bullshit to spout on about and get excited and mad about

Your GOP presidential candidates, ladies and gents:

Ted Cruz: I Stand With Kim Davis

Huckabee: Why is Kim Davis in Jail and Hilary Isn't Durr Hurrr Hurrrrrrr

She's set financially for life.

I doubt it's a lifetime sinecure. Her value as a symbol of resistance will fade to nothing long before she dies, because the cause she's backing will fade away before too long. It will result in a rising tide of money over the next X weeks as the media circus continues.