When I think of Shelley I think of almost Keith Moon sorts of fills, like, wtf is this super-steady take on him? Esp. on Goo and Dirty, he's all rolls and fills. The first thing that pops in my head, in fact, is Kool Thing, and that is total Moon.
― Josh in Chicago
Agree! I'm talking about after Dirty.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 August 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link
One interesting thing about early SY vs. Branca and Chatham is the looseness of the drums. Chatham especially is like listening to the Feelies, and the Branca stuff is stiff as hell as well. SY really hit on something by de-emphasizing the rhythm-keeping aspect of drums early on (after the first ep, which they clearly reacted against) but then they lost it once Shelley was firmly on board.
― dlp9001, Monday, 3 August 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
I kinda stopped paying close attention to the band after Dirty, maybe because the guitars and songs didn't catch my ear, so I suppose I'm not surprised Shelley toned it down along with the gang. Shelley went more Neu, but maybe he needed to get all jam-band on them.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 August 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
when this came out i bought it immediately and it was my first sonic youth album.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 31 July 2015 16:49 (3 days ago) Permalink
THIS
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 3 August 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
fuck, i'm bout to put on SILVER SESSION.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:40 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
everyone should do this all the time
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 3 August 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
I love "Silver Session"
― grandavis, Monday, 3 August 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
think they're saying that post-dirty, shelley became less explosive on record, which is probably true, but whether that's a bad thing might be up to personal taste.
― tylerw, Monday, August 3, 2015 10:49 AM (3 hours ago)
he's got good feeling on EJSTNS, some nimble, powerful fills. there's a weight to his presence, possibly the recording/mix. i really like the dry, muted quality of the whole recording.. sort of a muted humidity (again, talked to death on other sy threads)
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 3 August 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
yeah his change in playing in the Jet Set/Washing Machine era seems very much reactive to the whole shifting mood and approach of the band. Kim switched from bass to guitar, they briefly considered changing the name of the band, there was a hiatus for baby Coco and a lot of side projects, and a general comfort with the 'elder statesmen' role. i wouldn't mind if they'd done some more fast and loud stuff in 94/95 but it might've made them seem kinda desperate at that point.
― FLOPSZN (some dude), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
the jetsun dolma record (moore/surgal/winant) fucking rules. getting a bit off topic
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 3 August 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link
went down what the fuck hill
― j., Monday, August 3, 2015 4:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
preach
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link
while sonic youth plays a house party filled with extrasAnd Mike Watt!
― Vernon Locke, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link
talking with students about their music likes on the first day of class, i mentioned i was listening to sonic youth and one student sez
I have never listened to sonic youth by choice but my dad always forced us to listen to it in car rides.
― j., Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
dad dream nation
― tylerw, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
If I was a dad I would do this.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link
Dad puts on piece for Jetsun Dolma... "alright kids, this is how it's done."
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link
There's the Lee Ranaldo dads, the 'nothing past 1988' dads, the SYR dads..
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
then there's the us maple dads.. in their minds, sy lost it somewhere after a thousand leaves. at first they settled for the maple, guitar sounds/figures filling the void, and then they realized that the prime 'mape is superior in most ways. You've got the talker dads, who are excitable, and then you have the more seasoned, rock-reared, purple on time. dads, who still need a beat. they probably like Pissed Jeans or something, and zone out on The Field or some bullshit.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link
(aka the SYR dads)
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2015/09/08/sonic-youth-brixton-academy-london-december-14-1992/
shelley a monster here
― j., Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that was good!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link
when i was a kid i stole the 1988 (elle macpherson) and 1989 (kathy ireland 25th anniversary giant edition) sports illustrated swimsuit issues from my local library, which i think made me extra receptive to 'swimsuit issue'
― j., Tuesday, 6 September 2016 04:43 (seven years ago) link
i also stole stephen king's 'IT' and 'firestarter', but only to read and return undetected (except my mom found 'IT' and i got in trouble, or didn't, i don't remember)
― j., Tuesday, 6 September 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link
I BELIEVE ANITA HILL
― j., Thursday, 5 January 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link
Haha this thread is my favorite child
― U2 (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
I really hope kids these days are listening to this album and wondering "What the fuck is a swimsuit issue?!"
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link
Idg that one. Isn't the SI Swimsuit Issue as big as it has ever been?
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 January 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
this thread def contains the worst steve shelley discussion on this board
especially with 'rain on tin', one of the more interesting tracks, his drumming is accommodating (serves the music, whatever), but i find it pretty dull
lmao imagine
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 1 June 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
Probably not coincidental that Bert is the only one of the group who was in a great band *after* SY.― dlp9001, Monday, August 3, 2015 8:42 AM (four years ago)
― dlp9001, Monday, August 3, 2015 8:42 AM (four years ago)
Yikes. Here's a selection of bands and artists who Jim (S) recorded/toured with post-SY:
Alex Chilton (1983)Tav Falco's Panther Burns (1983, 1992-1994)Lydia Lunch (1984-1986, 1991-1992)The Cramps (1991-1992)Congo Norvell (1992-1996)Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds (1994 - present)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 1 June 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link
Surprised to see Youth Against Fascism place so high. Always saw it as a a cheap concession to Alternative Nation.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link
A sieg heil-in' squirtyou're an impotent jerkYeah, a fascist twerpit's the song I hateit's the song I hate
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link
I think I've listened to enough Sonic Youth now to know they're not really my thing, but I adore this album
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 05:09 (two years ago) link
It was my first Sonic Youth album, so maybe that's the reason it's the one I latched onto. But I probably need to check out more of their albums. Goo felt similar to Dirty to me, if not as cohesive. I did enjoy a lot of Bad Moon Rising.
I was definitely scarred when I picked up Daydream Nation - said by many to be their best - and found it interminable and ponderous instead. This was years ago though, in the days of committing $17 to a CD when you just wanted to try something. It was enough to keep me from exploring their other albums. I should probably make it a point to dip my toes back in now that they're on Spotify.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 10:58 (two years ago) link
I really dig that little guitar break in “Purr” (from like 2:40 until the main riff comes in again)… are there other SY things with that particular sound?
― slide into my KMFDMs (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link
Ranaldo's leads in "Stones"? 2:50 in "Dirty Boots"?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link
Thx... "Stones" is nice. I think there's something almost Pavement-y about that "Purr" gtr, maybe that's why I like it so much
I know this is a basic-ass SY opinion, but "Sugar Kane" is such a great song... prob my favorite of theirs overall (it's a little funny when Thurston sings, "Kiss me like a frog"... I think it puts a different image in my head than was intended).
― slide into my KMFDMs (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link