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Want to read Viv's book. Just learned from a Joe Strummer movie doc, that Strummer used to live with Viv's bandmate, drummer Palmolive (aka Paloma)

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 July 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

ok i am finally almost done with her book
it's really raw and grueling! so glad she didn't agree to a ghost writer.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link

i recently read two books by LeRoi Jones/Amiri Baraka which I would highly recommend: Blues People and Black Music.

Blues People is just as much about sociology/history as it is about music, describing how blues developed as an expression of the traumatic displacement of slavery. he draws clear lines between the music that black people were making during the slavery and postbellum periods and the popular music of the early 20th century in America, which was interesting to me because the kinds of cross-generation connections i read about are between early 20th century blues/jazz to mid-century R&B/rocknroll.

Black Music is a compilation of his writing about jazz in the late 50s/early 60s, some of them record reviews or profiles for Down Beat and the like, others more experimental or informal pieces for lesser known publications. it's thoughtfully pieced together, though, so that musicians who are introduced as new people on the scene in the context of pieces about other musicians are later given their own feature later in the book. it's hard to explain, but the flow of the book is very organic and it makes you feel like you're gradually getting familiar with the NYC jazz scene in the early 60s (through Baraka's eyes of course) - who the most talented young players are, where the cool clubs are, why brilliant musicians are having trouble finding paying gigs, who's underachieving and who has just lost it completely. you get a long profile of someone like ornette coleman when he was first breaking in and freaking everyone out, but you also get short profiles of jazz drummers who are completely forgotten now. it doesn't come across like Baraka is sitting in an apartment listening to records and writing reviews - it sounds like he's in the middle of the scene and he knows everyone and everyone knows him and he's invested in it - it really comes through in his writing.

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

I half considered taking the library copy of Blues People and getting it signed by him when he did a reading at NUIG a few years ago but then didn't.
Think it was just pretty pure coincidence that I happened to have their copy of that out when I heard he was reading.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

christgau's memoir 'going into the city' is way more about his love life than music but when he condescends to consider music you sorta feel like you're at ground zero for the establishment of predominant critical shibboleths

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

Does anyone have a shareable version of that Dennis Wilson book mentioned above?

calstars, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

take it to "bad books about music" xp

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

Those xpost Leroi Jones collections are eloquent and elegant; he really made the most of his word limit for the columns. At the same time, some of the You Are There aspect incl. settling scores with squares and worse, like the club owner who not only refuses to hire an avant pioneer, but is pissed that he can find a gig anywhere. Also the relatively mainstream star who admits just now saw the free jazz light---Jones: "That's a noble confession and all," but what took him so long? Harsh, but understandable in historical contect, and not too ranty (esp. compared to some other writing).
Think these books might have influenced young Bangs, Tosches and others.

dow, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

christgau makes a thing out of how ishmael reed's 'mumbo jumbo' had a huge influence on him

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

christgau's memoir 'going into the city' is way more about his love life than music but when he condescends to consider music you sorta feel like you're at ground zero for the establishment of predominant critical shibboleths

ikr and when he manages to tear himself away from his relationship w/ellen willis and condescend to consider journalism in the mid/late 60s it's pretty interesting like you're at ground zero for the establishment of well, rock criticism. too bad he goes into this "then i reviewed that and it was good if i say so myself and i do" mode for the rest of the book - an insider's overview of the village voice during its 70s heyday would've been something. what the old boy's book totally lacks is any larger perspective/longview on the revolutionary times he lived through. like all those years of micro-reviewing ruined him for macro analysis. he's a good guy for all his quirks, though, reading this made me feel glad and lucky i got to work w/him.

got the club going UP on a tuesday (m coleman), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 11:13 (eight years ago) link

i came away from 'going into the city' liking christgau much more than i went in. it reminded me a lot of donald fagen's 'eminent hipsters' and i wasn't surprised one bit when he quoted himself and his wife carola dibbell at length reviewing steely dan

pairing 'going into the city' with james wolcott's 'lucking out' fleshes out the 'voice' during its 70s heyday a little better

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 12:34 (eight years ago) link

robertchristgau.com has a good amount of his 60s writing (incl mid-60s Times account profile of a young woman, known for being an early adopter, way before that term was coined, who starved to death on a groovy diet; ends with a speculation that she may have suffered from something called anorexia nervosa---italics his, I think---a condition then mostly known, as such, by medical professionals---it's a time trip). Also in the stash:many other longform pieces,from the 60s, 70s, later, mostly on music, where he has to develop his themes more than in the Guide, with various results (but always thought the 70s and 80s Guide entries hit the peak of compressed insight).
His joint review of the Ellen Willis and Paul Nelson collections is astute, re the achievements and limitations of those writers, ditto the first decades of rock writing.

dow, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

Ellen Willis' Out of the Vinyl Deeps is sooooooooooooooo good

I've also been reading Ian MacDonald's The People's Music, which is not nearly as good.

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link

Can anyone here recommend any good books about classical harmony/harmonic analysis etc? Finished a music degree eight years ago and would now like to brush up/expand on my knowledge as I haven't looked at that stuff much since. Any books with interesting analyses of composers/works?

mirostones, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Turn back, you poxy fule!

Eternal Return To Earth (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Charles Rosen - the classical style
Same author - the romantic generation

Corn on the macabre (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

Hm. Had seen those books before and was intrigued but never investigated further

Eternal Return To Earth (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

Rosen is amazing

Corn on the macabre (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 13 August 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link

Actually now I remember, this book is pretty good, I came across it last year: Revisiting Music Theory: A Guide to the Practice, by Alfred Blatter

Eternal Return To Earth (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 11:44 (eight years ago) link

Is the David Byrne one worth reading?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

someone gave it to me as a gift so i guess i'll find out soon enough (once i read the million other books i wanted to read first)

dyl, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

I didn't enjoy the Byrne book at all. IIRC there is a glaring error in the first chapter which put me off completely.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

I finished the Byrne one to make sure it was as awful as I thought halfway through. it was.

campreverb, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

Ah that's a shame, I like the idea of a music theory book written by David Byrne.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

I enjoyed it, especially the first few chapters. Maybe it depends a bit on whether you find the ideas he presents about music's relative value etc banal or relevant. There's also a fair bit of autobiography so added value if you care about byrne/th and don't know his bio by heart.

niels, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

I came it with relatively little in the way of preconceptions about Byrne (I consider myself a modest fan of the Talking Heads). After finishing it though that minor fandom was considerably diminished by the overall arrogance. who knows, maybe that's the Asperger's. But within this broad category of good books about music, probably the ones I have disliked most have been memoirs (Joe Boyd, Dean Wareham, Byrne), with the Levon Helm book being a notable exception.

I tend to like critical/music history books more, so to be a bit more positive, I loved The Chitlin Circuit by Preston Lauterbach. It starts off a bit dense, setting up the major management groups/crime bosses in Indiana, but by the time it weaves in Texas blues joints with everything that was happening in Memphis and eventually Macon, I was hooked.

campreverb, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

After finishing it though that minor fandom was considerably diminished by the overall arrogance. who knows, maybe that's the Asperger's

His Asperger's is self-diagnosed, thus perhaps non-existent, and further evidence of arrogance.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

The first chapter seemed a bit stiff, though maybe because he was self-consciously trying not to turn out yet another ageing white rocker memoir (as he declared up front), but soon took off, once he got into got into describing the experience of recording and performing live--from middle school on---and how these were affected by changing biz models (about production, distribution, developing an image) and venues (the Heads dropped out of art school and moved into a friend's apartment, almost directly across the street from CBGB, and he analytically recalls the whole thing, but still wonders why that music-friendly setting become a Scene, when others didn't?). Also, for instance, describes an early solo tour, with the players teaching the dancers how to play, and the dancers teaching the musos how to dance. And the ending is great edutainment, as he sympathetically goofs on and celebrates man's quest to get in tune with the music of the spheres, from ancient times til Now.

dow, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

Chris Richards in the W. Post likes Houston rapper Scarface's new autobiography "Life of A Madman"

The book also is filled with laugh-in-disbelief anecdotes; illuminating notes on craft; meditations on the molten intersection of race, class and hip-hop; and a few juicy loose ends, including claims of a lost trove of Scarface tunes produced by Kanye West. If you love rap, you’ll devour this stuff — meaning, you still have time to add it to your summer reading list.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/going-out-guide/wp/2015/08/27/mr-scarface-goes-to-washington/

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/10-best-music-books-of-2015-20151221/the-underground-is-massive-how-electronic-dance-music-conquered-america-by-michaelangelo-matos-20151218

I want to read the Grace Jones book and the Charles Hughes Country soul one. Maybe some others too

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

thanks for posting that-really want to read the 'Country Soul' book. There's a new Preston Lauterbach that I need to get as well. His 'Chitlin Circuit' was amazing.

campreverb, Thursday, 31 December 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

The Hughes book very good. Own a copy of the latest PL book but have not sat down and read it properly. Went to high school with a descendant of the main guy he talks about.

Instant Karmagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 December 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link

20 jazz funk greats by drew daniel. 33 1/3 series

flappy bird, Thursday, 31 December 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

The latest Preston L book is less music-focused but still an interesting read.

Here's author/critic Richie Unterberger on his fave 2015 books about musicians (mostly rock and soul from the 50s and 60s to early 70s). A few are from 2014

http://www.richieunterberger.com/wordpress/top-twenty-rock-history-books-of-2015/

curmudgeon, Thursday, 31 December 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

Thanks!

Instant Karmagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 January 2016 02:19 (eight years ago) link

Now I want to read Unterberger's book on unknown legends!

campreverb, Friday, 1 January 2016 03:18 (eight years ago) link

I like it, although I think there are some folks here who dislike his writing.

curmudgeon, Friday, 1 January 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

He has certain blind spots. But he is usually very good on the stuff he likes.

Green Dolphin Street Hassle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 January 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

At the risk of damning with faint praise: he does a lot of research, takes pains to organize it properly, and doesn't rely on bombast to convert the unbelievers.

Anyway, just now skimming the first few chapters of the Johnny Rogan Ray Davies bio and I am hooked.

Green Dolphin Street Hassle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

Anyone plunked down for this epic looking Hawkwind book The Spirit of Hawkwind? It's expensive...

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 3 January 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link

I'm wondering about that Suicide bio from 2015. "Dream Baby Dream: Suicide: A New York Story by Kris Needs

Kris Needs is a former NME journalist and Zigzag editor. He has written several rock biographies about Blondie and George Clinton (both published by Omnibus Press), Joe Strummer and the Legend of the Clash, The Scream: The Music Myths and Misbehaviour of Primal Scream and Trash! The Complete New York Dolls. H. He is a regular contributor to Record Collector and Mojo.

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 January 2016 15:09 (eight years ago) link

xgau re recent books by Patti Smith and Carrie Brownstein, one of his best on books: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/review/lives-saved-lives-lost

dow, Thursday, 14 January 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link

Another fave: "PIoneer Days," on Paul Nelson and Ellen Willis (I still need to get the Willis collection Out of the Vinyl Deeps):
http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bn/2011-11.php

dow, Thursday, 14 January 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link

Evis Aron Presley, by Alanna Nash with the Memphis Mafia

Currently enjoying this.

Currently reading Unterberger's very technical ( and therefore heaven for me ) book on the making of The Who's "Lifehouse"/"Quadrophenia". It basically asserts the genius of Pete Towshend, Solo Auteur.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 24 January 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

xxxpost I've read the Suicide bio. It's excellent. Recommend it!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 24 January 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

Gathering oF promises about psychedelia in Texas is pretty great.

& Always in Trouble the Oral History of ESP-Disk is great too. would like to read an lp by lp overview but what's here is very interesting.

Facing The Other Way on 4Ad by Martin Aston is very interesting too. I haven't read any other histories of the label if there are any so I don't have anything to compare it to. & I think the authopr said a couple of things on the Birthday party that i wouldn't agree with

Stevolende, Sunday, 24 January 2016 20:33 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Recommending a
collection put out by a friend, Jeff Pike's Index. (Long-distance friend--we've never met.) Jeff wrote for my fanzine 20 years ago, and also put his own, Tapeworm, where people were invited to make a mixtape for Jeff and send in some writing on whatever was on there. The book's about half music, with the rest split between movies and books. Novels--I vaguely remember what they are.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dAwLZ7sQHrM/VuleNlyNd0I/AAAAAAAAJs0/jt7c2VBdqYw5ZFc_urA2cRPduOFHefV7g/s400/INDEX.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 2 April 2016 02:12 (eight years ago) link

The audiobook of Miles Davis' autobiography is currently blowing me away. It's like he's in my car next to me discussing all of the jive motherfuckers he dealt with

beamish13, Saturday, 2 April 2016 05:21 (eight years ago) link

à propos miles davis, "miles ahead", the new film by and with don cheadle about two days in his dark period in the arly 80s when he was lost in drugs and stuff is pretty good. it comes over really authentic and the music is of course excellent. there is a young trumpet player in there incarnated by keith stanfield who literally blows away miles davis who then wakes up and plays again.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 2 April 2016 05:56 (eight years ago) link


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