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Didn't Sonic Youth play Daydream Nation at p4k? Perhaps I got this wrong.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

It's the Chicago Reader; I'm not surprised in the least.

― kwhitehead, Monday, July 20, 2015 5:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't get it -- what aren't you surprised by, and why aren't you surprised by it?

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Didn't Sonic Youth play Daydream Nation at p4k? Perhaps I got this wrong.

They did, but it was announced as part of a collaboration between P4k and All Tomorrow's Parties.

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

Oh yes now I remember

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

I never thought I'd get wistful for the days of the Red Hot Chili Peppers dressing up as lightbulbs.

Seriously, though, remember when a selling point of the first Lollapalooza was who might pop up on the stage with whom? Now it's just, like, another night, another gig. I wonder if that's the natural product of bands forced into festival labor. They have to schedule tours around fests, they don't have the luxury of saying no to fests. Once the fests and their non-competition clauses kick in, it's a matter of plugging in live dates between fests, which not only basically means festivals do become just another stop on the tour, but the bands don't have the time or incentive to make fest stops special.

Probably better discussed/debated in another thread.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

I don't get it -- what aren't you surprised by, and why aren't you surprised by it?

The Chicago Reader has always rubbed me the wrong way, esp. the music writers. It's seems to be a contest as to who can name check the most obscure bands. They act somewhat record store employees did in the '90's, judging your purchases, too hip to make eye contact, etc.

And also, the general quality of writing is suspect. They have existed for too long without any real competition.

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

At their best Wilco strike me as competent, lifeless guitar rock, but an early 2005 show promoting AGIB impressed me. The Pitchfork set didn't. Most of Friday's performances verged on the narcoleptic.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

I'll give you "competent" and "guitar rock" but at least by the standard set by several of this weekend's acts, I dunno about "lifeless."

They have existed for too long without any real competition.

Ironically, this is because they've outlasted much of the competition! Which, tbf, was never terribly competitive.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

I'm liking "More..." but I wish there was more liveliness to the production. The drums and bass sit so quietly in the mix and I don't think I'm a fan of the way they're using hard panning.

timellison, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

I'm a bit conflicted with the band. I loved everything up to YHF. I thought A Ghost Is Born was a bit aimless sounding so I stopped paying attention to them until I heard some buzz around Sky Blue Sky which I checked out but found it completely unmemorable. I picked up "The Whole Love" at the local library and I was surprised how much I dug it though. I love this new one too. "Magnetized" is a great track, like ELO on downers.

tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

Really loving this new one, feels loose and like a band that's just letting it out and has played together for a long time

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link

Didn't realize the new one was free until I looked at this thread. Based on one go-through in the car, "You Satellite" definitely jumped out as my favourite. Tweedy sounds a lot like Lennon on "More."

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

I would call this very good karma:

This message has arrived in your inbox because you downloaded Wilco's new album Star Wars. Thanks for that and we hope you're enjoying the new tunes.

Now a bit of background... We consider ourselves lucky to be in the position to give you this music free of charge, but we do so knowing not every band, label or studio can do the same. Much of the “music business” relies on physical sales to keep the lights on and the mics up. Without that support, well, it gets tougher and tougher to make it all work.

With that in mind, Wilco has put together a list of some of their favorite recent releases. We encourage you to explore it (and beyond) and yep, even march down to your neighborhood record shop and BUY. There’s a lot of great music out there, lets all try to support it. After all, it's the years of support (and purchases) of Wilco's music that allowed us to do what we did last week.

Adron - Organismo
Cibo Matto - Hotel Valentine
Empyrean Atlas - Inner Circle
Eleventh Dream Day - Works for Tomorrow
Full of Hell, Merzbow - Full of Hell & Merzbow
Game Theory - Real Nighttime
Girlpool - Before the World Was Big
Invisible Familiars - Disturbing Wildlife
Landlady - Upright Behavior
Luluc - Passerby
Ned Doheny - Hard Candy
Parquet Courts - Content Nausea
Richard Julian - Fleur de Lis
Scott Walker + Sunn O))) - Soused
Speedy Ortiz - Foil Deer
Steve Gunn - Way Out Weather
William Tyler - Deseret Canyon
Thanks for listening (and sometimes buying),

- HQ

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

Alright for William Tyler getting a mention!

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

Totally. I picked that up, the Luluc and the Empyrean Atlas, the latter two of which were totally unfamiliar to me but seemed cool enough.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link

thats really cool

just sayin, Thursday, 23 July 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link

Game Theory!

Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 23 July 2015 05:50 (eight years ago) link

man, "magnetized." it's been a long time since a song like this made me feel like this

soyrev, Thursday, 23 July 2015 07:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah just got that, very cool

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 July 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link

Totally. I picked that up, the Luluc and the Empyrean Atlas, the latter two of which were totally unfamiliar to me but seemed cool enough.

I like the Empyrean Atlas too. I had to check if Nels Cline wasn´t playing guitar with them, it´s exactly the same sound and style (crying whales!)

EvR, Saturday, 1 August 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link

Played through their whole catalog earlier this week. AGIB has aged really well, and in fact the first half of Sky Blue Sky is some of their best stuff. Still not so crazy about its second half but everything up to "Side with the Seeds" is A+.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 1 August 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

i probably think "Hate It Here" is my favorite Wilco song.

Bee OK, Saturday, 1 August 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://www.spin.com/2016/07/wilco-new-album-schmilco-new-song-listen/

willem, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

Nice.

Austin, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

For a minute there I (accidentally) forgot Wilco existed. I never listened to the last record and not sure I can remember anything from the one before it (I liked it?), been a while since I saw them live or even seen any of them around. But the radio played "You Never Know" from "Wilco (The Album)" this morning, and it was pretty good! I should probably catch up on the last decade of Wilco, see how it sounds with clear ears.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

The Whole Love was the last one of theirs that I really liked across the board. Star Wars and Schmilco are kind of boring.

outside, you're never alone. (Austin), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

xp
I never liked them until their two most recent albums, which I think are terrific (I had this same convo w/you or someone else in the Dad Rock thread?)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

last song on star wars is incredible but their album art is generally more exciting than their records now

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

they are a great live band at this point

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

agreed that "you never know" is a v good song. the problem with wilco (the album) is it's just kinda like "you never know" for 40 minutes

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

oh yeah they still rule live

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

i appreciate them mainly as a reliable source of income for nels cline at this point

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

last song on star wars is incredible

Haha, that's the weak one (IMO)!

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link

Star Wars is appealingly buzzy-sounding, particularly Random Name Generator. Schmilco didn't make much of an impression on me but I do like Someone To Lose

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

for some dumbass reason they split the opening track of star wars into two tracks - kept together it'd be one of their best songs (i also love the closer)

but these pale before the opener and closer of the whole love which are worth the entirety of wilco being a thing

imago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

"Random Name Generator" and "The Joke Explained" are my primo back-to-back dad-rock jams

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

i am willing to fight anyone who denies that one sunday morning is the pinnacle of alt-country fyi (i mean, what else could be?)

imago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

idk for me it's "gun" by uncle tupelo ymmv

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

sike i actually said that to fish for good alt-country

imago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

lol i mean all i did was name another tweedy song (and "gun" is just kinda replacements cosplay so it was a cheeky response)

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

in terms of early jeff alt-countrier stuff i think this song is astonishing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbgsMhAjMJs

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

tweedy is the boss of this game tbh. linkous the holy spirit maybe

imago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

i am willing to fight anyone who denies that one sunday morning is the pinnacle of alt-country fyi (i mean, what else could be?)

― imago, Tuesday, September 4, 2018 11:23 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

waiting for the sun by the jayhawks?

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

pinetop seven will always be my favorites but they're probably a little too ornate to count as straight alt-country

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

with The Night's Bloom as his/their apex

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

Yeah, Pinetop Seven, while awesome, are sort of too esoteric. I think Jayhawks might be apex, or the first Son Volt. Wilco dropped the country stuff pretty fast.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

They dropped it by Summertooth, but AM is basically an Uncle Tupelo record there are still some choice alt-country cuts on Being There, like Someday Soon (one of my fav tracks on either disc), Far Far Away, and Kingpin

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

I love pretty much every Volebeats album but I wish their stuff was easier to find.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

Kingpin is a goof, Far Far Away was less country per se and more a nod to the Dead, I think.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

I can't even believe this slander about Jay Farrar

Tweedy had great songs in Tupelo, but Farrar was the force imo

it's been twisted by the success of Wilco and the relative non-success of Farrar/Son Volt

if you want an alt-country album that Nels Cline is on, the best one is not by Wilco

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_(album)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link


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