Next batch of Pixar films after the Monsters Inc. prequel

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That article isn't crazy, but it isn't very good either.

No, the relationship between father and son in Finding Nemo does not resemble management how-to literature, because in management how-to literature there is no room for the emotional freak-outs that strongly mark close relationships. No management book anywhere tells anybody to drop everything and risk your life to find a lost employee.

No, you shouldn't expect American pop movies to make arguments for socialist collectivism, although that bit at the end of Nemo where all the fishes are urged to swim together in the same direction, overriding their own individual panic motions, just to avoid being captured - that seemed kind of commie to me, fella.

No, the abhorrence of Woody becoming part of a box set in Toy Story 2 is not a rejection of collectivism (LOL) but a rejection of collector-fetishism and the enshrinement of childhood playthings as high-priced collectibles, and at its best from the toy point of view, a rejection of safety in favor of the danger of love. Aw.

No, actually, Whole Foods, like most upscale food places, caught on to the whole "local" thing a while ago, and consumers who care can buy more local products if they want, not that that makes it all wonderful or anything.

What's really weird about this article is that the author avoids the obvious and objectionable Ayn Rand-y type business in certain Pixar movies (especially The Incredibles).

Vic Perry, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RgquKVTPE

Number None, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

i don't care for the animation style for the characters and have a long held antipathy for the anachronistic mix of humans and dinosaurs but THOSE BACKGROUNDS THO
http://www.comicscube.com/2011/06/comic-book-glossary-masking-effect.html

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the whitewater rapids is the most stunning bit of animation I saw in that trailer. Character design is positively goofy, though.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

We're getting two full-blown Pixar releases in one year? That's kinda nice.
Foliage and rocks look amazing, and I'm fine with the character design.

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 05:01 (eight years ago) link

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

I have a friend whose day this comment will make

kinder, Saturday, 25 July 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

the music hurts to listen to

The Once-ler, Saturday, 25 July 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

let your friend know i'm looking forward to paying money to see A+ tufts of grass and dust physics

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 July 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

How come nobody brought up Porco Rosso in the Miyazaki debate?

the man who posts like Sam Smith sings (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 26 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Saw Inside\Out tonight. Loved it. Thought the opening short was sweet.

Liked the fact that since the story was in allegory land, they could go nuts with the designs. Appreciated the inclusion of hockey and the fact that family island had a part that deliberately looked like the "Life" board game.

The 3D gimmickry seemed real hammy, and we saw it in 2D.

Purves Grundy (kingfish), Sunday, 25 October 2015 08:11 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

have literally seen zero advertising for the one that's coming out in a couple weeks

qualx, Sunday, 8 November 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

they're doing bumps in football occasionally. i dunno, there's a definite muted tone to the pr

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 November 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Wha, I had literally no idea the Good Dinosaur was out so soon. I had it figured as a summer 2016 release. Are they trying to bury it?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 November 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

More like, they've spent so much time on it, delayed it, changed directors and changed the entire voice cast, that I think they just want to get it out of the way. Barring more delays, and following a fallow period, looks like they've got a movie each summer through 2019, each a sequel, plus one original movie slated for Nov. 2017. There's a Pixar backlog.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

Not sure why but they skipped releasing any movies in 2014, so this might be a result of that

Nhex, Monday, 9 November 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

It definitely strikes me as odd when compared to the punishing amount of marketing for Inside Out.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 November 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

I have seen nonstop ads for this pretty much every day for the past two weeks.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

I have seen billboards advertising this on my occasional forays outside of my room.

:wq (Leee), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

There's a big moving one in Times Square, for example.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 November 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSf-5vbVpAU

Number None, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Good Dinosaur is not a good movie. It's a very obvious case of something that was in development entirely too long and at the hands of people who had wildly different ideas about what to do. The end result is a completely cliched and boring storyline ripped from Finding Nemo (and hundreds of other things). The setting and premise is bizarre: why are they farmers? why are they southern? It has three things that made paying to see this worth it: there is a scene with a stegasaurus that seems to be left over from some other, more fun version of the script; he has different animals on his horns and names each one and explains why they are there, and it is a rare moment of real humor; there is a scene with gophers getting blown out of their holes which was cute; and we finally get an actual, full fledged psychedelic trip brought on by dodgy berries, it lasts about 20 seconds but is the most bizarre and interesting things Pixar has done in a long time.

Technically of course they've totally surpassed themselves, water, light, grass, everything (other than the characters) is utterly completely photorealistic, it's beautiful.

The opening cartoon, Sanjay's Superteam, is 1000x better than the movie.

akm, Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

the voice acting team was awful across the board.

akm, Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

for pixar, this is a crazy low metascore
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-good-dinosaur

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link

I asked my kids today if they wanted to see it, and they responded with a firm and resounding "no."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 November 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

The opening cartoon, Sanjay's Superteam, is 1000x better than the movie.


I hadn't heard about this short. It does look pretty cool.

However, this is how I first heard about it - from Facebook:

My mom and I (& J___) just walked out of "The Good Dinosaur." It was too scary and kinda gross for J___'s age in our opinion and even if he wasn't there we wouldn't have liked it. Wish we would have seen the chipmunk movie or something instead. AND there was a horrible short film beforehand that we were subjected to...this dad is bowing and praying to Allah, then then there's all these scary gods...some three headed monster looking thing...then ultimately the little boy draws these gods as his superheroes. It was demonic honestly and had it been a Christian short film I bet people would complain...

pplains, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

Well thank heavens it wasn't Christian, otherwise, I'd have to listen to dimwitted people complain.

pplains, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

My kid and I really enjoyed the movie. I mean, if you've got a 5-year-old or something and they like dinosaurs, there's really no reason not to go. The opening cartoon (about a hindu, not muslim, father and son) was amazing as well.

there is a scene with a stegasaurus that seems to be left over from some other, more fun version of the script; he has different animals on his horns and names each one and explains why they are there, and it is a rare moment of real humor;

This was a styracosaurus.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link

Gotta watch out for any of those religions that worship three-headed deities, I mean....

http://i.imgur.com/TFKVtSR.jpg

Oh wait, nevermind.

pplains, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

Chaw's review couches this as an existentialist western. Fun read, at least.

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2015/12/the-good-dinosaur-the-revenant-the-hateful-eight.html

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

just saw Inside Out, cried a fair bit, beautiful little film in my eyes

niels, Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

yeah it's wonderful. good dinosaur on the other hand

akm, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

What's going on? Some message board invasion type thing?

it's just relentless, 1-star review after 1-star review:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2096673/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

but they're only 0.9% of the ratings:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2096673/ratings

StanM, Saturday, 12 March 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link

took the kid to see Inside Out at her school's movie night and can't say I enjoyed it's Inception-meets-Herman's Head claptrap. Kind of a bad idea to have your characters be one-dimensional by their very nature, since it means they can't change or be interesting over the course of the movie. and the central conflict was so arbitrary (here let's make up a bunch of rules about how the inside of a brain works!) it felt like nothing was at stake.

idg why people like Pixar movies I guess

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

Characters not changing over the course of the movie doesn't really describe any Pixar film? I mean, it's usually really obvious from the first ten minutes: "Mike / Nemo's Dad / Joy is going to learn to loosen up and enjoy life more", but it's pretty much always there.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

I was referring specifically to Inside Out, where the main characters are all literally one dimensional emotions

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

you're meant to put the glasses on

kinder, Monday, 21 March 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link

But . . . they do change by the end of the movie. The whole movie is Joy's character arc!

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link

She comes to understand why Sadness is important! And Sadness gets more integrated into the spectrum of emotions!

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

she realizes that Sadness has a role to play in like the last 10 minutes and that's it, hardly a ton of depth there

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

#neverforget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyPdW4kxVZA

akm, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

but as characters in their own right I did not gaf about Sadness, Joy, Anger, Fear, Disgust - they were all more or less one-note jokes, with Joy simply a narrative focus necessary to move the (again, almost totally arbitrary) action along.

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

shakey i 100% agree with you abt inside out and the desperate situations they put the characters in became tiring... one toy story 3 inferno scene after another it basically became self parody

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link

xxxp wow you mean a movie's plot was resolved in the closing minutes rather than at the beginning or somewhere in the middle? What kind of screenplay sorcery is this?

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

but as characters in their own right I did not gaf about Sadness, Joy, Anger, Fear, Disgust - they were all more or less one-note jokes, with Joy simply a narrative focus necessary to move the (again, almost totally arbitrary) action along.

Maybe they should have expanded those characters, perhaps by looking inside their heads at what makes them tick...

I found it charming and quite an unusual 'story' (less so the main adventure; I do have less time for 'we go here, then we go here' journeys).
Realising the role of Sadness is the main thrust of that story!

kinder, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link

it is the main thrust of the plot resolution but it is not a particularly interesting character development or character trait for Joy. Joy's character traits are a) she wants Riley to experience joy and b)... nope that's it. at the end she realizes its necessary for Riley to experience other emotions. So her one identifiable trait shifts. real quality character conception/arc there.

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

idk maybe you guys don't care about characters being relatable or interesting or nuanced. it is possible to have those things in a children's film, and this film didn't have them, because the underlying concept of the film was so literally pursued and constraining.

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link

the conclusion to the "exciting" adventure at the end of inside out was a totally out of nowhere deus ex machina type bullshit ending. like they obviously wrote themselves into a corner and just threw it in there. it sucks. i mean its for babies and babies probably like it so thats fine.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 21 March 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

I was referring specifically to Inside Out, where the main characters are all literally one dimensional emotions

Yeah that's why I specifically mentioned one of the characters from the film. Were you drunk when you saw it? I mean, it's fine if you were drunk, but maybe check the wiki page before the post button.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 March 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link

Like, none of this is complicated? Joy focuses too much on the importance of being joyful, like you know a lot of the prevailing culture, but painting all your memories with joy is not really how people work, sometimes sadness has a purpose, particularly in relating to other people who are sad - teenagers can lose access to joy and sadness when they feel fucked up by life? Nothing here is really that complicated to follow?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 March 2016 23:54 (eight years ago) link


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