Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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lol if you think it's over

Mark G, Thursday, 16 July 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link

imo the issue with pieces like this and other 'lol we've reached PEAK GUARIDAN!!1' things is less the assertion put fwd (although that seems at best questionable) and more that it's being published with the intention of getting racists to come and comment

and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Monday, 20 July 2015 07:47 (eight years ago) link

Michael Twitty is an excellent writer and his pieces are never less than interesting. If the only take away people are getting from that one is "barbecue is racist" i don't know what to say.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 20 July 2015 08:17 (eight years ago) link

the going madness of political correctness is a serious concern for us all

Live Aid: JFC (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 July 2015 08:43 (eight years ago) link

that wasn't even a 24hr-outrage piece, that was a pretty interesting and well-researched history lesson that taught me things i didn't know before

lex pretend, Monday, 20 July 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I was braced for something about cultural appropriation and guilt but it's not that at all. It's straight-up informative.

A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 20 July 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

not a peep about the cruelty of animal slaughter & consumption though

example (crüt), Monday, 20 July 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

seems to have gone unnoticed that the writer of ^that piece is literally on work experience at the Guardian this week

and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

haven't read it, i noticed a lot of men disparaging it

regret it? nope. reddit? yep. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

"I know long multiplication was taught in a radically different way back in the 70s. My own parents have told me. But please at least try to adopt the way it’s taught in today’s classroom when supporting your child at home"

wait, they've changed multiplication now?

koogs, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

are they talking about logarithm tables maybe?

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

Long multiplication is indeed taught differently now. it involves some kind of grid.

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

apparently in the 70s they taught multiplication as repeated addition. the way i learnt it was the current way (despite that having been the 70s. lol, i r old.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/ks2/maths/number/multiplication/read/4/ oh, is this what you mean? seems error-prone to me

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/ks2/maths/number/multiplication/read/5/ the PROPER way

then there's this
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Multiply-Like-Chinese-the-easy-way-Fast-/

koogs, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

George Osborne ruined my yoga retreat

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link

Beyond parody tbh.

Possibly Fingers (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:11 (eight years ago) link

That new way of multiplying stuff seems like madness. I mean, I can see how it would simplify the idea of it to people who are scared of numbers, but it's still just WRONG.

ailsa, Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link

Charlotte and I have the same yoga teacher, who ran the retreat in Italy over two weeks (I was there in week one, Charlotte in week two).

The retreat was lovely - well organised and taught by a very dedicated teacher. Shame it had this tripe written about it - her anecdote of a practice promoting a 'kinder' self put in that context is a low point, particular to me and how I heard this talked about in a class. One of many low points, which are easier to point out. xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:43 (eight years ago) link

they fucked up adding too fyi xp

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

that yoga thing is fine, Charlotte Higgins is a perfectly fine writer, p sure she wrote it equipped with the self-awareness that the thick, boring twats btl were born missing

and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

haha i just looked up the grid method and it's just a spatially intuitive way of diagramming the same shit? that's fine!!

number bonds can get bent tho

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link

(notwithstanding any issues w/ the ethics of the practice, which are outside my field of knowledge)

and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 23 July 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link

the way of learning to spell by fonetic letter pronunciation is probably based on smart science, but when i hear my nephews say the letters as like "ooo" or whatever, i'm just like "ffs what have we become"

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 23 July 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link

One day, when I've left the Guardian, I shall offer my views on every single Guardian journalist named on this thread, for good or bad …

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 23 July 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

> it's just a spatially intuitive way of diagramming the same shit? that's fine!!

the final adding up needs you to copy all the info from the result boxes. the 'old' way they were all already aligned nicely to add up there and then.

koogs, Thursday, 23 July 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

It is a prejudice of ours, for sure, but we expect bands featuring transgender musicians to be fringe sorts who make an avant-garde racket.

uh yes that is indeed a prejudice

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 23 July 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

He is so awful. So, so awful.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 July 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

my favourite thing about P Lester is that he shares an amalgamated amazon author page with the writer of erotica such as this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/414S351rnhL._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

pop addicts should "do their thing", whatever that may be (soref), Thursday, 23 July 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link

that yoga thing is fine, Charlotte Higgins is a perfectly fine writer, p sure she wrote it equipped with the self-awareness that the thick, boring twats btl were born missing

― and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 23 July 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

everything is fine.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 July 2015 11:31 (eight years ago) link

What does btl mean?

Possibly Fingers (Tom D.), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:37 (eight years ago) link

below the line, ie comments

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:37 (eight years ago) link

I was thinking of Buy to Let!

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:43 (eight years ago) link

Bacon, tomato, lettuce.

Possibly Fingers (Tom D.), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:44 (eight years ago) link

... that was on Channel 4 earlier this year I think.

Possibly Fingers (Tom D.), Friday, 24 July 2015 11:45 (eight years ago) link

I don't even get what or who P. Lester has in mind wrt that line abt stereotypical trans music (which is about two years old for anyone who looked for it on today's page like I did)

Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 July 2015 12:18 (eight years ago) link

cindytalk or genesis p-orridge would fit his imaginary stereotype i guess?

feargal czukay (NickB), Friday, 24 July 2015 12:35 (eight years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/03/analysing-the-balance-of-our-jeremy-corbyn-coverage?CMP=share_btn_tw

Turning back to the concerns of those who have complained to the readers’ editor’s office and commenters below the line, I read or viewed 43 pieces of journalism published between 21 and 30 July. This is not a scientific piece of research – we don’t have the resources – but an attempt, led by some of the readers’ comments, to gain a snapshot of the coverage.

Telling me you couldn't get a couple of office temps to go through a few weeks' worth of back issues in a week?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 August 2015 09:15 (eight years ago) link

Not that I wondered but I didn't know The Guardian supported the Vietnam war "for a while". Doesn't surprise me in the least.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 August 2015 09:17 (eight years ago) link

Ho Chi Minh wd've rendered the Viet Cong unelectable

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 August 2015 09:23 (eight years ago) link

have heard BBC News pundits casually describe Corbyn as a "Hard Left" candidate so you know, maybe that is a purely descriptive term with no connotations or editorializing involved

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 August 2015 09:25 (eight years ago) link

the Guardian's columnists collectively shitting themselves b/c the terrifying spectre of a SocDem has been hilarious.

ey mk II, Monday, 3 August 2015 09:43 (eight years ago) link

The box and chinese multiplication thing is interesting - just provided me with 30 mins of excellent work procrastination - thanks

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 3 August 2015 09:59 (eight years ago) link

Jonathan Jones is streaking ahead in the race to be the most embarrassing 'asset' the paper has.

http://www.donotlink.com/g9nb

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Saturday, 8 August 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link

i'd despair but y'know, people like that are crying out to be exterminated tbh

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 August 2015 12:31 (eight years ago) link

That article is vile.

Karl Marx was a gentle man

A former 'serious and committed Marxist' who appears to know nothing about Karl Marx, for a start.

The Tony Hart Land (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 August 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link

Jones was brought up in North Wales. Both his parents were school teachers and the family visited Italy in the summer holidays which developed his interest in art. He read history at Cambridge University, but it is unclear if he graduated.

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 August 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

I was about to say, isn't this guy an art critic?

The Tony Hart Land (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 August 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

more anti-corbyn articles should just be an extended gripe about how wrong the author has been in the past

ogmor, Saturday, 8 August 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link


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