it will always be a great, searchable archive of zeitgeisty discussion.
this is totally spot on.i spend hours digging around catching up re old bands i missed out on at the time.
― mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 12:20 (eight years ago) link
I like Facebook's recent multi-threaded approach now
flag latin
― the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link
I like Facebook's recent multi-threaded approach now, even if it is still a bit glitchy.
oh god no
(and fuuuuuuuuuuuck fuck fukc fuck f u c k twitter's even worse take on this. so hard to follow a thread now.)
― The Reverend, Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link
anyone who likes multi-threading should be banned from ilx
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:30 (eight years ago) link
I would like to see more posts where people boast about obscure music they love and try to win others over. Preferably in topics not dedicated to sed obscure music.
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link
Maybe we could have obscure music by genre threads or if said genre is already obscure then more active threads dedicated to that particular genre/style that can include less obscure music
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
the minimal text groove of ILM is work friendly - FB is not.hence i still hang around here.
Totally this. I'm able to ILX at work because it's totally inconspicuous. Plus I absolutely loathe Facebook and I haven't used it or Twitter in a couple of years (outing myself as an old).
― Turn That Pout Inside Out! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link
Maybe we could have obscure music by genre threads---― The Once-ler
We have plenty of them already.
Rolling Afro-Latin Music 2015 and onward: Salsa, Bomba, Merengue,Reggaeton, Bachata, Latin-Jazz and more
Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
why would we have our discussions facilitated by some fly by night web megacorp when we have our own sweet DIY platform right here? greenspun forever aeon flux forever
― adam, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
I miss threads for new artists. Used to check new answers and after seeing an unfamiliar name enough times I'd say "oh maybe I should check out this dizzee rascal guy." Whereas now someone would've just posted I luv u to the rolling uk carpark thread or whatever.
I mean I get the desire to discuss artists in context or just the friction of starting a new thread.
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link
eh rolling threads are kinda meat grinders
― j., Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link
okay, how about we have one thread where we discuss our favorite finds and old flames? I feel like no one notices when I bump a thread for 'obscure band ____'
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
i think people probably notice but if they're not interested there's not much you can do!
― This is for my new ringpiece, so please only serious answers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
i like to bump clarke's metal faves thread for that but it always takes me like 10 minutes to find the damn thing so i tend to just let it go
― j., Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
way i read this you're agreeing with me? rolling threads mean that the new answers page isn't a useful guide to anything except which scenes people are following.
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
^ This. I mean Louis has been trying to get us all to listen to the Cardiacs for about 8 years to little or no avail.
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link
do you guys like Haves & Thirds? i love this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BHC3YrXUuU
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
haha.indeed.i did check some of the bands out as per nudged on that thread, but, nah, not for me .. i am in two minds re the rolling threads.on one side, they can provide a great quick dive into a particular scene/sound, but on the other, if you are not invested and up to speed with the detail, then the thread becomes a bit of a closed shop and can end up being too intimidating for genre scum surfers like me.
― mark e, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
i tried to watch a couple of cardiacs videos because of him. didn't get far.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
I remember someone liking the Cardiacs but maybe it was the art bearswhat's her face
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
The minimalist and anonymous thing is a big draw but then again I started with Usenet and BBSses.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
ILX has 88 threads about dizzee rascal
― the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
yes; i was just adding that the 'context' provided by a rolling thread seems pretty minimal/notional.
― j., Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
I mean
but there's rarely that much in the way of discussion and when there is, it's generally the same four or five posters doing an inside-baseball thing.
what other form would discussion take on a genre thread
― the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link
I like the Cardiacs fwiw
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
I like art bears
― the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link
i like big butts
― This is for my new ringpiece, so please only serious answers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
Best prog band of all time imo
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
It's not impossible to imagine that ILM will outlive Facebook.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
Facebook is just such a miserable experience
And no fucking way is Twitter better than ilx. Everything on there washes away so quickly, there's no way you can get a substantial exchange going unless you're riding the app all day long. Everything just disappears.
This is the only place/app/whatever that doesn't make me want to kill myself
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
^^ otm
i have tried asking questions periodically, but i think a lot of the conversation that used to keep ilm (specifically) alive was fueled by discovery and people learning about stuff from people who had more expertise. i don't enjoy personality-driven sniping or argument wrt music honestly, mostly i have used ilm to ask questions and to discover new stuff. also, it afforded people like me the chance to talk about music with only words to identify me. i never would have attempted to do any number of things if it weren't for the freedom of being text on a page. i hope this isn't a death knell (but even if it is, i can't say i'd walk away empty handed)
― La Lechera, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
I've only got one thing to say, Can we be shown weirdos + Mike Love?
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
Usually music news these days is super depressing. Like I just read something that makes me want to crawl back in bed.
Also maybe think-piecing things to death has had an effect on discussions. Music/video drops and you've heard it and read an article/headline about it and by the time you get into a ILM thread there's all this meta baggage it's already been discussed to death and Twittered about and everyone has probably read slightly different takes on it and now you are dealing with all of these invisible browser histories that you have no idea of.
This leads sometimes to threads where people are arguing against arguments that don't exist on the threads themselves but on external websites. Which is fine and good but kind of confusing.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link
It's a small issue but one thing I've always liked about ILM is if you make a misstep, you don't get an instantaneous beat down from some gatekeeper hard man, more snark or gentle steering in the right direction unlike some more specific forums on or off FB where hair trigger peeps go from zero to apoplectic in one exchange.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
Damn. I'm not sure I've ever had that experience.
But I think ILM has mellowed a bit (aging? music taste isn't so identity defining?), still loads of snark and sarcasm of course.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
still loads of snark and sarcasm of course.
which apparently scared a lot of posters away
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
I don't see much of that on ILM tbh.
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
There's a lot of snark but very little actual RAGE, which I occasionally see on other boards.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
Snark gets boring really quickly though.
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link
But, you know, first there was Zing now there is Snark, plus ca change.
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
i have tried asking questions periodically, but i think a lot of the conversation that used to keep ilm (specifically) alive was fueled by discovery and people learning about stuff from people who had more expertise.
i think the lack of zero-cost instant universal availability also meant that ppl constantly had to rely on finding productive/attractive ways to convey that expertise to others w/ analogical reasoning, comparisons, descriptions, convincing personal representations, etc. - as an investment in discovery
all that can take place in full view of the actual artifacts, and after the fact rather than before everyone has had a chance to experience them, but there's a kind of natural indolence that comes out when you can just hear something for yourself and nothing much rides on whether you can articulate its significance or quality in anything other than private terms
there's a related dimension too, that opinions are connected to ppl and once the internet is glutted w ppl and their opinions, there's a real disinclination to find out more about anyone via their opinions (like, the difference between being 20 in 1999 and finding out, like, 'omg there's all kinds of super music fans on the internet!!!!' and being in your 30s in 2010 and being like 'ugh, more super music fans on the internet')
― j., Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
scared away, bored away, i don't really care
there#s been some serious bad behaviour occasionally over the years but it's easy to skip it on ILM in particular and god knows u have to have some kind of deterrent for challopians, blowhards and other spoilers of joy
― This is for my new ringpiece, so please only serious answers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:30 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
almost as if it was just an intrinsic part of human communication
― the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link
Some posters were banned too, right? R@cc00n is the most recent one that comes to mind.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link
at least deems will be pleased bans are back then
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/plum-juice-glass-realistic-full-drink-cocktail-straw-isolated-white-background-vector-illustration-41601780.jpg
― j., Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link
Well, maybe, it's sometimes pretty forced and some people just don't have the Zing/Snark chops but feel as if they have to join in when they should leave it to the experts.
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
I'm rambling now, I'm going home.
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Your mums an expert
― MaresNest, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
there used to be better handwringing on ilm too. step it up, you guys!
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link