the world has changed and we have all become metal men
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
I guess facebook could be one reason but then why is ILE as busy as ever? Do posters still think ILM is unfriendly or has music/music discussion become boring as ilxors got older?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
balkanisation.
― cod latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
Cosmic Slop, why don't you listen to current ILM buzz-band Years & Years and post your thoughts in their dedicated thread? They're getting a lot of love!
― rahrah avis (imago), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link
we're giving ILM the silent treatment
and if you can't figure out WHY, then i'm certainly not going to explain it to you!
― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link
i think it's time for me to repost the unicorn song no one cared about last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBbmOHU2MoQ
maybe music piracy's downgraded the prestige of music in general thus dampening meta-discussion about music? maybe "music" is a greek word and greece itself is feeling unloved these days? maybe it's time to start collecting cars?
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
Cosmic Slop, according to your screencap, you've only clicked on ONE of those threads. So like, why aren't you participating in ILM?
― how's life, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
I don't have much to say about anything released in the last five years or so, but if there's a thread for 'floating below the 40' Billboard singles from 1985, bump that shit.
― Turn That Pout Inside Out! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
or I have read them and they havent been updated, you choose
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
Whoops! I never look at the dots. Sorry.
― how's life, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
music sucks, no more conversation needed
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link
IT KNOWS WHAT IT DID
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
did someone say something
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link
tumbleweeds blow....
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvUL_Xi_UqE
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
Sorry to come over all Tuomas, but what is SNA?
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:01 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That is super easy to mis-read...
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
c on T
― j., Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
I never knew what SNA was! I was thinking it was another one of those shadow boards.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
sooooone1 notice how all of today's top singles are dance, urban, and/or teen bop?
is this because america is shit?
― The Once-ler, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
also I remember when everything sounded more white. even the hip-hop
― The Once-ler, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link
after the last round of john v. paul, ilm's credit rating was downgraded and austerity is in force :(
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
also something about mexicans not having diverse music taste
― The Once-ler, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
I think my continued attempts to keep the Classical Music You Buy From Boomkat thread going are scaring people away. Sorry.
― djh, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTd54695IrM
― feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link
^Went looking in vain for the Like button on that post
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
You couldnt hear our metallica party? :( - pplains cranked the volume way up hoping for noise complaints
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link
i'm on a facebook music group during the day. i like it better than here now. a lot of my real world friends are on it and a lot of my ilx friends too. i mostly look at ilx out of habit.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
now playing or another one?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link
yeah, now playing. that's my spot. i need my daily dose of andy zax. who doesn't?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link
ile is absolutely not as busy as ever, its nothing like as busy as ever
ilm was a bad idea and I'm.surprised it lasted this long
"see this music? it's shit""no its good""sound"
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link
I started reading ILM when it was only ILM around here. You would have hated it.
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
d otm, there's no accounting for taste
― the late great, Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, polling usually does the opposite of accounting for taste
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link
maybe we need a new scapegoat, a la 1977 and prog rock?
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link
only thing that might save ilm now is if ppl agree to stop talking about music
also, the music critic thing? not a job. ignore them.
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link
There is definitely a lack of posting in the UK morning which suggests not many brits/euros are on ilm now.
I think the lex mentioned once he doesnt even bother with ilx til the americans are awake as its so dead
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link
music critics used to make lots of big posts here.. Now it feels they save that for the dayjob. Which is a loss to ilm
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:52 (eight years ago) link
dyou know what would be good
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link
I had thought this too (and the ad money is no longer anything like covering the hosting bill) so tonight I went over all the data I have. Compared to 2013-2014, in the past year we are down average 18% on page views, 27% on active users. People are spending exactly the same amount of time on the site when they do visit, though.
I think a couple of big Google changes have affected us:- The change that downranked forums. This is the one that nearly killed Metafilter. http://www.fastcompany.com/3030848/what-google-search-algorithm-changes-do-to-the-internet
- A more recent change to penalise sites that aren't mobile-friendly.
Can't do anything about the first one, don't really want to do anything about the second but may have to. I also don't think that's the whole story either.
― stet, Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link
interesting info, thks
feels a lot quieter than even that drop tho
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:55 (eight years ago) link
stet is there any way to differentiate how many active users are on ile & ilm instead of the sitewide one?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:55 (eight years ago) link
individually counting the bearable ones
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:56 (eight years ago) link
dyou know what would be good― irl lol (darraghmac),
― irl lol (darraghmac),
does it include suggest bans?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
Also, there is no change in the geographic distribution of users: 20% are from the UK, and that number has been the same since 2012.
xp not trivially, but I'll try some log analysis
― stet, Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
I said users, I should have said "site visitors"
xp I thought better of it tbh
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link
i post a bit less and it's totally because twitter has kind of become where i have a lot of the conversations i would've had here in the past, i imagine that's true for a fair # of people here. still love it here and think that the pace of things around here is a little more agreeable now than they were maybe a couple years ago when it just kinda felt like a daily rotation of clusterfuck threads dominating SNA.
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:07 (eight years ago) link
come man that's no attitude
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link
SHOTS FIRED
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link
too few polls obvs
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
"It's especially important now in the modern era where there are attacks on institutions and sensibilities that provide the fuel for this art that we all love."
see various led zeppelin threads for the very worrying diminishment of music's greatest institution and the finely-tuned sensibilities of its four members who helped shaped the course of rock N roll, and indeed culture, for generations to come.
― budo jeru, Thursday, 13 April 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
when ilm went pop it started resenting rockists' need to rationalize music tastes and as the new reigning queens make sure rock discourse is kept to a minimum
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
the 21 new answers on the Pink Floyd thread today are just gifs of wagging fingers
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
https://youtu.be/kVjDllE2OcE
etc
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
dont call it a comeback iirc
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 13 April 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
remember when rap and rock went hand in hand and were fighting the hegemony of pop
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 13 April 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
http://cdn.ambrosiaforheads.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/rundmc-aerosmith.png
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 13 April 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link
the judgment night era
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 April 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes)
bad puns, if you're wondering. the ultimate outcome of all music discussion when critical discourse becomes meaningless. i'm a little disappointed that y'all are bringing the floyd puns harder than my old school floyd homies, though.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
ILM could use more folks who write about Train.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
well, it's better than long discussions about hm, well, let's see, at what point did roger waters take over and pink floyd cease to become a "real band" i mean, yawn x1000
xpost
― budo jeru, Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link
i think critical discourse becomes meaningless as soon as syd barrett left the band because that's the real pink floyd, dude
― budo jeru, Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
pink floyd rules
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 April 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link
are these the faces of nu ilm
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 13 April 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link
yeah i agree, if you're talking about pink floyd at all in 2017 it better be bad puns and discussions of shag-carpeted vans.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 13 April 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
Caring about Pink Floyd quite the provocative stance so maybe ILM is doing just fine
― Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Friday, 14 April 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link
jethro tull rules
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 14 April 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
"yeah i mean i liked RYM, but i just couldn't help but wonder if there was some hallowed land that'd let me talk about pink floyd AND def leppard"
― austinb, Friday, 14 April 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link
I Love Jeffro Lloyd
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 April 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link
i love bernard sumner
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 14 April 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link
Fat Barnie
― yesca, Friday, 14 April 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link
the best antidote for old ilx nostalgia is actual old ilx
Margaret Atwood should fucking die
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
I like how nü-ILX immediately locked it.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
bravo to the locker of that thread, tho i date "nü-ILX" much earlier - circa the sandbox exile and addition of radio button polls maybe?
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
Nothing ever got locked or removed by request nor did anyone ever get banned on old ilx.
its funny to think that in 2001 we were referring to nu-ilx already though.
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
but maybe i should revise my timeline around precisely this shift. 2003 thread starts, title/premise is disparaged but conversation goes on. 2009 revive cast significant side-eye on title/premise, conversation goes on. 2010 semi-revive is a false start, 2012 revive goes nowhere, 2017 revive leads immediately to thread lock. so maybe somewhere in there was a real shift in board values/priorities, which i applaud, and perhaps this marks the arrival of 2nü-ILX.
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
I personally think of moving from Greenspun as the beginning of nu-ilx but others think of stet taking over and polls.
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
If you dont blame hstencil you are nu-ilx
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
all of you are like a little baby
― mark s, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link
we've come a long way (for a little) baby
― nashwan, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
Yeah, 2017 ILX needs to contritely distance itself from its 4chan-esque past because that thread title is perfectly representative of the types of discussions people were having back in the day. Decline successfully averted!
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
By the way, which one's Pink?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
― pomenitul, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:10 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's an extreme example but like honestly go to any really long thread and get super basic opinions about tom petty and shit if you go all the way to the beginning
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
best nostalgia for old ilx can be your own old ilx posts tbh
― nomar, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
otoh a tiny bit after the beginning you do get mark s opinions
― mark s, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
/Yeah, 2017 ILX needs to contritely distance itself from its 4chan-esque past because that thread title is perfectly representative of the types of discussions people were having back in the day. Decline successfully averted!― pomenitul, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:10 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/it's an extreme example but like honestly go to any really long thread and get super basic opinions about tom petty and shit if you go all the way to the beginning
― pomenitul, Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:10 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/
or read posts on the Kendrick Lamar thread, from yesterday
― flopson, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
i stand by my steve vai posts
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
xxp but just after that you get infuriating anonymous posts via a long time anonymous poster that annoys mark s :D
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
stop trying to make fetch happen
― mark s, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
I was thinking of that annoying dude who you had to clean up categories when archiving
― Odysseus, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link
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not as much quiet as talking in circles, can't figure out if self parody or realizing true potential
― niels, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 11:23 (six years ago) link