oh right. "Newports, not just blunts" -- how could i forget
― got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
it doesn't think through as much as it could because all of the participants had less than 24 hours to churn their opinions out
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 06:20 (eight years ago) link
I was gonna say the elephant in the room was that the roundtables that made it to this thread (they've done others) were the ones that dealt with race, but given that someone's dropped blackface into the discussion I don't think that is really applicable anymore
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 6 July 2015 11:45 (eight years ago) link
No I'm not having that. It might be about race but it caught my eye because everybody agrees as loudly as possible. Maybe that's the norm for P4k round tables, idk, but if it is then they should rethink the whole format.
― A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 6 July 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
Can mods just change the name of this thread to "I@n C0hen is dumb?"
There's more care and nuance put into the drum filtering on "Let It Happen" than most bands manage in an entire career of recording
Right, because you know
Parker is...somehow the best and most underrated rock bassist of the 21st century, and it’s not even close on either front
srsly?
― Wimmels, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
I feel like for some people audible bass playing = good bass playing.
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
otm
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 13 July 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link
what is "drum filtering"
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link
It's when you use the snare strainer to make coffee.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/0HZMqzm.gif
― example (crüt), Monday, 13 July 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
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^^^^^
― Wimmels, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link
crut I lol'd really hard, ty
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
Currents could be called a "transitional album," but what Parker seems to realize is that all albums should be so named, because life is transitional.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
jesus christ
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link
Noted Marxist-Leninist mouthpiece the FT on implications for the Eurozone: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e38a452e-26f2-11e5-bd83-71cb60e8f08c.html#axzz3fm5E3Q9P
― Keith Moom (Neil S), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
lol rong thread sorry guys
― Keith Moom (Neil S), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
not really
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
Forknancial Times
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 July 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
he's just talking about the dj-esque part of the single where there's a low pass filter on the drums.
ian cohen also responsible for this infamously terrible review: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17136-mumps-etc/
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
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― nose, Monday, 13 July 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
they're on the festival bill
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
copy and paste the url. ilx doesn't put the final "/" in the link and so it doesn't work
― Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
I don't really care about IC as a writer but he reviews so much nu-emo/pop-punk stuff that is reviving sounds I didn't care much about the first time around that I basically skip anything with his byline.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
It's a huge bummer that he got assigned to review the Tenement album, which didn't really say anything beyond "It's a double-LP; therefore, it's too long." Couldn't they have gotten literally anyone else?
― billstevejim, Monday, 13 July 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah just like when he reviewed the new mew record and mostly used it as an opportunity to make thousand-year-old prog jokes about rick wakeman's king arthur
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
IC is the most Pitchfork-y of Pitchfork writers though, a true objectivist, will always mention the album's relatability, hook count, and cross-reference with other Pitchfork-approved records positively. Music to him is something to affirm his own privileged position, not to challenge it. As long as he writes there regularly that site will never be a positive force for anything
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
Every site needs one of those, like David Fricke at RS. Or Anthony DeCurtis in his heyday.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link
i would like to suggest: nah
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
speaking of pitchfork writers, this looks pretty cool:
"Rural Violence", curated by Brandon Stosuy, features the work of the artists Matthew Barney, Cindy Daignault, Lionel Maunz, and Prurient (with John Sharian). It is a meditation on the bucolic as sinister and the quiet violence of the pastoral, along with the various rituals attached to both natural and personal cycles.
"Rural Violence" opens on August 8, 2015, in the Family Chapel of the 150-year old Woodside Church in Troy, NY. Opening is 7pm. Performance is 8pm.
There will be a second movement on September 19, 2015.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
prurient in a church in troy. that's pretty damn poetic.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9700-the-200-best-songs-of-the-1980s/
TOP 10 SPOILER ALERT:
10. "How Soon Is Now?"9. "The Message"8. "Once in a Lifetime"7. "Love Will Tear Us Apart"6. "Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)"5. "Fight the Power"4. "Blue Monday"3. "Straight Outta Compton"2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin"1. "Purple Rain"
Hardly visionary, but I'm sure there's a lot of cool stuff in the 200-50s
― niels, Monday, 24 August 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link
here's a spotify playlist with 191 of its songs https://open.spotify.com/user/norwich5/playlist/5rYtPUau6Aewf3UrsM7r66
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link
great list!
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
nah but
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
(shruggie)
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
not to sound like all the idiot rockist/crypto-racist Slicing Up Eyeballs commenters who are complaining about this list, but no Human League was a lil surprising to me
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link
a lot of great choices through 200-101 and then it hardens into an established, only lightly distorted version of canon, there are also a lot of inexplicable omissions and some u2 songs
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
...and Hall & Oates.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link
...and Michael McDonald.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
no george michael, no 'perfect way,' no pointer sisters, no freestyle (unless you count shannon who to me was always on the cusp), no country, no 'higher love,' totally weak on all the weird left-field pop that bubbled up from secondary and tertiary markets to the charts and made top 40 radio an exciting place
also 'straight outta compton' being picked as the '80s best hip-hop track is just, i mean, what?
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
"Love Will Tear Us Apart" is such a mediocre song
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
the post-disco/electro-funk inclusions are the real highlight of the list and their blurbs are almost exclusively written by deej, tim, or meaghan garvey, thrilling me
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
and like... 'about a girl' but not 'touch me i'm sick'? come onnnnnnnnn
the selection/order/distribution of janet and madonna singles is baffling but
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link
Alan Parsons Project right between Frankie Knuckles and Madonna, where it belongs.
― how's life, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link
this is the main reason i think this list is great
no 'perfect way,' no pointer sisters, no freestyle (unless you count shannon who to me was always on the cusp), no country
agree that the list needs more of ^^^
i was just happy to see Egyptian Lover first thing
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link
yeah i was gonna say that i love nwa as much as anybody but calling straight outta compton the third best song of the decade isn't just revisionist, it reeks of au courant click prioritization
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
on the other hand, this is a fun mix to listen to because these are pretty much all very good and well remembered songsnumbering lists by priority and then having DEEP MEANINGFUL ISSUES with those priorities is pretty much always meh
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
xpostI felt the same way about Nirvana being on an 80s list.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
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