pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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isnt there like one white writer in the entire group

supreme problematics (D-40), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:57 (eight years ago) link

not to cape for played out slang useage in music journalism or anything but uhh

supreme problematics (D-40), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:58 (eight years ago) link

feel like the thing i quoted is p dumb regardless of ethnicity

idk i don't really have a handle on what pitchfork is 'like' anymore

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:04 (eight years ago) link

neither does pitchfork

j., Sunday, 5 July 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

that pitchfork roundtable on rihanna makes me feel really uncomfortable somehow. like it doubles down on the pure celebration of violence and thinks that because of who is doing this that it has some extended political significance. reminds me of the unmitigated celebrations of gangsta rap in the early 90s. as a reaction to the scolds it makes sense, but it feel like it doesn't really think through what's going on. like the politics of endorsing the video seem a lot more shallow and less realized than the video itself.

got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

there was also a roundtable for the song itself that had some of the same participants and same overall super positive tone, although there was at least one dissenter:
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/715-bitch-better-have-my-roundtable-rihannas-bbhmm/

some dude, Monday, 6 July 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link

oh right. "Newports, not just blunts" -- how could i forget

got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link

it doesn't think through as much as it could because all of the participants had less than 24 hours to churn their opinions out

lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 06:20 (eight years ago) link

I was gonna say the elephant in the room was that the roundtables that made it to this thread (they've done others) were the ones that dealt with race, but given that someone's dropped blackface into the discussion I don't think that is really applicable anymore

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 6 July 2015 11:45 (eight years ago) link

No I'm not having that. It might be about race but it caught my eye because everybody agrees as loudly as possible. Maybe that's the norm for P4k round tables, idk, but if it is then they should rethink the whole format.

A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 6 July 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

Can mods just change the name of this thread to "I@n C0hen is dumb?"

There's more care and nuance put into the drum filtering on "Let It Happen" than most bands manage in an entire career of recording

Right, because you know

Parker is...somehow the best and most underrated rock bassist of the 21st century, and it’s not even close on either front

srsly?

Wimmels, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

I feel like for some people audible bass playing = good bass playing.

29 facepalms, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

otm

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 13 July 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

what is "drum filtering"

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

It's when you use the snare strainer to make coffee.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/0HZMqzm.gif

example (crüt), Monday, 13 July 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

I feel like for some people audible bass playing = good bass playing.

― 29 facepalms, Monday, July 13, 2015 1:56 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^

Wimmels, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

crut I lol'd really hard, ty

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

Currents could be called a "transitional album," but what Parker seems to realize is that all albums should be so named, because life is transitional.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

jesus christ

Noted Marxist-Leninist mouthpiece the FT on implications for the Eurozone: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e38a452e-26f2-11e5-bd83-71cb60e8f08c.html#axzz3fm5E3Q9P

Keith Moom (Neil S), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

lol rong thread sorry guys

Keith Moom (Neil S), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

not really

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

Forknancial Times

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 July 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

what is "drum filtering"

he's just talking about the dj-esque part of the single where there's a low pass filter on the drums.

ian cohen also responsible for this infamously terrible review:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17136-mumps-etc/

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

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nose, Monday, 13 July 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

they're on the festival bill

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

copy and paste the url. ilx doesn't put the final "/" in the link and so it doesn't work

Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

I don't really care about IC as a writer but he reviews so much nu-emo/pop-punk stuff that is reviving sounds I didn't care much about the first time around that I basically skip anything with his byline.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

It's a huge bummer that he got assigned to review the Tenement album, which didn't really say anything beyond "It's a double-LP; therefore, it's too long." Couldn't they have gotten literally anyone else?

billstevejim, Monday, 13 July 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah just like when he reviewed the new mew record and mostly used it as an opportunity to make thousand-year-old prog jokes about rick wakeman's king arthur

IC is the most Pitchfork-y of Pitchfork writers though, a true objectivist, will always mention the album's relatability, hook count, and cross-reference with other Pitchfork-approved records positively. Music to him is something to affirm his own privileged position, not to challenge it. As long as he writes there regularly that site will never be a positive force for anything

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

Every site needs one of those, like David Fricke at RS. Or Anthony DeCurtis in his heyday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

i would like to suggest: nah

speaking of pitchfork writers, this looks pretty cool:

"Rural Violence", curated by Brandon Stosuy, features the work of the artists Matthew Barney, Cindy Daignault, Lionel Maunz, and Prurient (with John Sharian). It is a meditation on the bucolic as sinister and the quiet violence of the pastoral, along with the various rituals attached to both natural and personal cycles.

"Rural Violence" opens on August 8, 2015, in the Family Chapel of the 150-year old Woodside Church in Troy, NY. Opening is 7pm. Performance is 8pm.

There will be a second movement on September 19, 2015.

scott seward, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link

prurient in a church in troy. that's pretty damn poetic.

scott seward, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9700-the-200-best-songs-of-the-1980s/

TOP 10 SPOILER ALERT:

10. "How Soon Is Now?"
9. "The Message"
8. "Once in a Lifetime"
7. "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
6. "Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)"
5. "Fight the Power"
4. "Blue Monday"
3. "Straight Outta Compton"
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin"
1. "Purple Rain"

Hardly visionary, but I'm sure there's a lot of cool stuff in the 200-50s

niels, Monday, 24 August 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link

here's a spotify playlist with 191 of its songs https://open.spotify.com/user/norwich5/playlist/5rYtPUau6Aewf3UrsM7r66

maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link

great list!

welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

nah but

maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

(shruggie)

maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

not to sound like all the idiot rockist/crypto-racist Slicing Up Eyeballs commenters who are complaining about this list, but no Human League was a lil surprising to me

welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

a lot of great choices through 200-101 and then it hardens into an established, only lightly distorted version of canon, there are also a lot of inexplicable omissions and some u2 songs

...and Hall & Oates.

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

...and Michael McDonald.

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

no george michael, no 'perfect way,' no pointer sisters, no freestyle (unless you count shannon who to me was always on the cusp), no country, no 'higher love,' totally weak on all the weird left-field pop that bubbled up from secondary and tertiary markets to the charts and made top 40 radio an exciting place

also 'straight outta compton' being picked as the '80s best hip-hop track is just, i mean, what?

maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

"Love Will Tear Us Apart" is such a mediocre song

welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

the post-disco/electro-funk inclusions are the real highlight of the list and their blurbs are almost exclusively written by deej, tim, or meaghan garvey, thrilling me

and like... 'about a girl' but not 'touch me i'm sick'? come onnnnnnnnn

maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

the selection/order/distribution of janet and madonna singles is baffling but


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