quickie is bad too, even sure thing isn't great
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:22 AM (20 hours ago)
um, what
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Friday, 3 July 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
It gives me strong Purple Rain vibes tbh but I don't think you need to strain too hard for 90s rock echoes on a song with LENNY KRAVITZ on it.
The album in general feels more 80s than 90s to me, there's some big anthemic pop-rock sound that the faster, more top-down songs remind me of a bit, it's not Don Henley but it's something not far off.
NWA makes a really good companion to #HoodLove by Jazmine Sullivan btw. The whole stretch from Coffee through to Face The Sun is virtually flawless. The weather is helping.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 July 2015 07:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's an amazing sticky summer evening album
is "the valley" beat really not a sample? it sounds so familiar but maybe it's just Generic Dubstep Growl
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link
Album reminds me of Iggy Pop's "Candy".
― Tim F, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link
well especially when he starts literally singing "purple rain", perfect interpolation at perfect moment
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:07 (eight years ago) link
enjoying this record a lot
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link
this feels like more of an 'album' than the other two i love it so much fuiud
― 龜, Friday, 3 July 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link
not here to hate on the debut but it was v much "solid collection of songs overshadowed by the 10/10 classic single" where the next two have been incredible and fully realised pieces of work
thinking about the contrast between this and KD, KD's overall vibe was sort of floating, drifting, on cloud nine emotionally and in this bubble of romance; wildheart is all dirt and grit and roughness and stuff that pushes you rather than makes you swoon
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
"coffee" in fact feels like the outlier in this respect (an amazing outlier tho)
yep
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
If Kaleidoscope Dream was Oracle then Wildheart is Odessey.
― geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
Percussion on damned is wow
― 龜, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
maybe I'm going overboard with 90s-hunting but the second half of "Face the Sun" gives me strong "Where Is My Mind" vibes
The whole album is Sebadoh (with sex)!
― pophatte (admrl), Friday, 3 July 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link
Miguel made the same song w leaves and face the sun and put them one right after the other and it's still great and amazing
― 龜, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link
Re: the 90s, the guitars on "A Beautiful Exit" kind of sound like "Souvlaki Space Station" rewritten to soundtrack the opening of Altman's "Short Cuts" or better yet Bigelow's "Strange Days."
― geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
And "the valley" reminds of "Closer" mainly in the way that I can imagine having seen the real cool video with the "fuck" bleeped out and then getting the album home and hearing it uncensored for the first time. Like, I can imagine it so vividly, it's a mere technicality it didn't actually happen that way.
― geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link
Haha
― Tim F, Friday, 3 July 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link
"Waves" sounds like "Electric Feel".
― The Reverend, Saturday, 4 July 2015 08:58 (eight years ago) link
The songwriting on All I Want Is You is pretty underrated compared to KD but I feel like he just took this big jump forward as a singer (both his voice and his phrasing) between the first and second albums. I listened to Sure Thing again today and it's amazing, but when he sings "just put your pretty little hand in mine" he still has that pinched, slightly nasal thing you hear with lesser R&B singers. Fast forward to Adorn and he really SINGS those high notes, like his throat is wide open, his technique is way better.
It's worth remembering that "Sure Thing" was recorded in like 2007 or so. (It's was the song on his demo that got him signed, then his label sat on him for a couple years.) Something like "Teach Me" is a lot closer to his current phrasing.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 4 July 2015 09:27 (eight years ago) link
i learned that he was originally signed as a songwriter more or less and "sure thing" was specifically earmarked for usher
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 July 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
pretty obsessed with "Leaves"-> "Face the Sun"
I am a dummy on "production" but these two songs do this thing where they build up layer by layer steadily over the song, until the climax is a wall of sound. though if you're listening carefully the sound is good enough to hear the different layers individually. like you're listening to a pyramid, a three dimensional object, being built. this is particularly true of "Face the Sun". I don't know enough to say what lineage that sound has: it's very complex, layers of counterpoint building, more and more tracks coming in. I dunno, maybe I think of like Be Here Now? Miguel gets pretty shouty on these songs, well and elsewhere on the album. maybe it's a kinda cokey sound? this is no shade: I am just listening to those two on repeat, with "Waves" once in a while, which is a more linear groove. I dunno, I'm hearing something that's probably really easy for the rest of you to classify etc but for me it's pretty striking.
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 4 July 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
I've been thinking this too.
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:25 (eight years ago) link
'electric feel' reminds me of los angeles hotel lobbies, so the connection makes sense
― maura, Sunday, 5 July 2015 07:06 (eight years ago) link
i could wipe you down right now babylet me ride that wave right now baby
― 龜, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link
The first verse on Coffee is horrible. I don't think I can deal with this dude right bow.
― longneck, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
uh
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
hm peach color moon glistens the plot thickens
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link
I'm always rapping "I don't give a cottonpickin' fuck about a brother tryin' to size a nigga up/I hold my oowwwwn" after that line.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
i talked about this before upthread i think but it's such a romantic line to me that he's asking his lover to pick a star in the sky to say goodbye to bc they both got up to watch the sunrise and the stars are slowly giving way to the peach color sky
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
they also need coffee because, uh, they both stayed up all night fucking each other
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
no they didn't! gunplay turns into pillow talk pillow talk turns into sweet dreams
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
tru :)
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
and he's having coffee on his own right? she's still asleep and he doesn't want to wake her up. it's a moment of contemplation and clarity about the night before
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
I got the impression that he's alone or in the other room or wahtever. The song works because it summons the anticipation of a possible fuck and evokes the bliss state of the next morning. Not many songs do both.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Remember the explicit version, you guys
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
yeah the best thing about that song and miguel in general - and what the remix got so disastrously wrong - is that he gets why fucking is amazing, and also why the non-fucking bits of the night or the relationship are amazing as well
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
Since when is "We talk street art and sarcasm/ crass humor and high fashion/ bubble bath, truth or dare/ and would you rather / a cold flame, the thrill of no shame/ drugs, sex, and polaroids" a good lyric? These people are scum.
― longneck, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
...
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 July 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
bubble baths reduce or prevent scum iirc
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 July 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link
that's a great lyric u philistine
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 6 July 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
this is how conversations that may lead to sex usually go?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link
only skimmed through this new album so could be totally wrong of course but as with the last album, miguel is one of my favourite singers of anyone right now, but lyric-wise, he is often just ridiculous/moronic/vacuous/just plain nonsensical and confused. that pitchfork interview also left me no wiser. i cant tell if he occasionally likes to make himself sound more bro-like than he actually is, or maybe he really just is, which is maybe worse (its also just an awkward fit with his free spirit sort of image). but what a singer. might be alone in this but the way he projects his voice makes me think of jeff buckley a lot (use me from the last album was also very jeff buckley to me).
― StillAdvance, Monday, 6 July 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
http://thedailyloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/gunplay3.jpghttp://https%3A//whatson.bfi.org.uk/ArticleMedia/Images/WhatsOn%20images/December%202012/Doris%20Day/pillow_talk_01.jpghttp://www.drfunkenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/eurythmics.jpghttp://www.aliceinnappyland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/pam-grier.jpg
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link
ah well, insert this between gunplay and annie:http://40.media.tumblr.com/a535d8efa524d62e56f153bb55c260bd/tumblr_mroohav7Is1ro21o5o1_500.jpg
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link
are "Adorn," "Arch n Point," "what's normal anyway," "face the sun," and "Sure Thing" moronic?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
I don't mind nonsensical! Sex is nonsensical.
fyi i think the album version of coffee has 'fucking in the morning' in the last 30 second outro
also i think the version of the coffee single i bought is no longer on itunes?? lol (it's clean and also doesn't have wale)
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
thrilled that i apparently have a #rare #coffee
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
#beautiful!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
you're right. I wondered why that was marked as Explicit
― rob, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link