Apple Music - anyone heard of it? Or not, I don't care.

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I used those, several Apple scripts, and some manually. Still took forever.

Jeff, Thursday, 2 July 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

Interesting footnote: Thrill Jockey is on Spotify but not Apple Music.

n/i/c/h\o\l\a\s, Thursday, 2 July 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

are The Beatles on board?

piscesx, Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

the art blakey/ thelonius monk album I added to my music and make available offline etc kept *stopping* without me touching anything. not buffering. just *stopping*.

Fizzles, Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link

Beatles? Collectively, no. Solo, yes, except George.

n/i/c/h\o\l\a\s, Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

[quote]there's something weird about a radio station that's not attuned to what time of day it is. maybe it'll work, but what engages me with radio is the feeling that the DJ and me inhabit the same world, the same rhythms, the same shared shorthands, the same moans about the weather.[/quote]

i agree with this point; that said in the US we have ryan seacrest and delilah syndicated all over the land

yeah, and i think with individual shows it maybe doesn't matter so much. pete tong is pre-rec 95% of the time with zero listener interaction but it's scheduled at... 10pm on a friday night! so it makes sense as part of your day. there's a whole sedimented wisdom built over decades about what sort of thing works at drivetime, what sort of thing works in the morning. unless i'm missing something basic beats 1 can't take advantage of that.

another consequence of beats 1's "timelessness" is the issue of repeats. if you know what time of day your audience is listening, you can bulk out a 24-hour radio schedule with a few repeats in the wee hours. but there are no wee hours for a global station. so repeats can really stick out. (it doesn't help that the DJs keep saying they're "live" and nobody bothers telling them not to, or at least editing those bits out for the repeat)

ALLLL of that said, the tight integration of radio listening and "save for later and relisten in full whenever you want" has pretty much everybody else beat.

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

here's what i wonder: imagine if beats 1 did their version of spotify sessions, or the live lounge. a live set in a studio somewhere and broadcast on beats 1. as you're listening you can save to "my music". how quickly can you actually listen back to it? how quickly can you buy it?

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

good point that, i bet you can re-listen straight away. with the Glastonbury BBC iPlayer stuff last weekend for example it was often a next-day deal, or you know, 12 hours or whatever. sounds spoiled to say 'i wanted it straight away!' but it's the 21st century man.

piscesx, Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link

i guess they would pre prec and get all their metadata straight and everything mastered and encoded and ready to go before actually broadcasting the "live" session premiere. wonder if they'd even tell people it wasn't actually live. they haven't so far...

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 July 2015 00:10 (eight years ago) link

Q-Tip is killing it on abstract radio right now..

Popture, Saturday, 4 July 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

Having some issues with iCloud library turning itself off, which is causing some issues. Also confusing with album stars, sometimes it is staring the whole album when I star a song within the album. Which screws up my 3 star song playlist by throwing all the tracks on the album.

Jeff, Saturday, 4 July 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

Also having this issue: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7110361

Jeff, Saturday, 4 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

ANother issue. Carl and I use the same iTunes instance, just logging in and out of each other's account. We shared a local file library, but it doesn't seem to differenate between my loved song list and hers. and also if I add apple music to the library, it's showing up for her sometimes and sometimes not. We need to be able to keep separate loved playlists.

Jeff, Saturday, 4 July 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

Haha i was just searching around for a solution to that greyed out tracks thing, must be something universally off with it today. Overall i'm loving this tho, looking forward to when its all running smoooooth.

dutch_justice, Saturday, 4 July 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

The turning if iCloud library off seems to be linked to logging out as me and in as Carl. It just turns it off, then when I log back in as me, all those albums have a 3 star album rating that I have to fix again. Bizarre.

Jeff, Saturday, 4 July 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

Out of curiosity I enabled the iCloud library on my iPad. Later when I synced it with the iTunes on my PC somehow the contents of all the static playlists that had been on the iPad had been wiped in my iTunes library.
I could see the playlist titles in iTunes but when I opened the playlists there were no songs in the playlists. This was for 90 odd playlists!
Fortunately the files were all still there and could recover the playlists by using a backup copy of the itunes library itl and xml files.
Imagine if I weren't paranoid about my iTunes library and didn't take regular backups?

I've turned iCloud library off on the iPad and it's never getting enabled on any other device.
For context - my current ITunes library was started in 2007 and has full basic metadata and cover art for all ~30K tracks. Being a librarian (and prone to these things) I use the comments field to provide extended metadata for about 18K tracks. That metadata powers about 250 smart playlists. I've put too much effort into it to risk having it wiped by some iCloud library related bug.

It's not all bad. I've found the Apple Music streaming fairly useful so I'll keep using it for the length of the free trial. After that I'll need to decide between Apple Music and Spotify Premium.

treefell, Saturday, 4 July 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

This thread is serving as a reminder of the extent to which catalogue discrepancies reflect regional issues. With few exceptions (The Necks, Keiji Haino, The Dead C, Henry Cow and the new The Fall record) the artists/albums in this thread are on Spotify in my corner of the world.

Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 4 July 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link

I uploaded some songs and can see that this has been done in ITunes successfully. But they are nowhere to be found on my phone. Anyone have any ideas?

calstars, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link

I had the same problem. Open the app, go to "My Music". There's a dropdown below recently added to sort - Artists, Albums, Songs etc. At the bottom of that dropdown is a toggle for "Show Music Available Offline". Set that to off.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link

Thanks, I tried that. Still no go. I must have done something wrong with the upload. But then, not sure the iCloud status would say "uploaded." Oh well. Things seemed easier back in the day.

calstars, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link

Well overnight they popped into my library. But on the downside, everything else was wiped off of my phone. ?!?!?!

calstars, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

More thoughts:

  • I think everything is coming together nicely. It feels like I have more control over my music collection than I ever had with Spotify. Sure, there are still issues, but hopefully they will be fixed with an update.
  • Good summary of some of the issues I've had. http://www.idigitaltimes.com/apple-music-problems-how-fix-issues-syncing-playlists-icloud-library-offline-455939
  • The one with offline files not downloading on mobile is the one bugging me right now. It's just impossible to make my larger playlists have offline access.
  • Another issue is the matching of tracks. Pretty much ruins the flow of DJ mixes sometimes, because it will match album tracks that are completely different versions. This doesn't seem to be a new issue, subscribers to iTunes Match had it as well. It would be ideal to somehow designate a track to force an upload rather than matching with an Apple Music track.
  • Can't wait for the match limit to be raised to 100K. Currently I changed my whole collection to voice memo for media kind and selectively switching the tracks I want to match back to music. It would be nice if I could tell how close to the limit I am, but I can't see an easy way to tell that.
  • I still have concerns about profile switching. Really need to have it so we can maintain separate libraries/playlists/loved tracks, but still have access to the same local files.

Jeff, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

OH, and the siri integration is great.

Jeff, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

what can you do w/siri?

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Lots! I particularly like play songs from 19XX.

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2015/07/learn-and-listen-top-siri-commands-for-apple-music

I also like the many ways in which you can display your music. I've seen people complaining that it makes the interface too complex, but I prefer to have options rather than be forced to view the music one way. Most of the time I have it in the Song's display, but I do switch back and forth to Albums/Artists/Playlist.

Jeff, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

It would be ideal to somehow designate a track to force an upload rather than matching with an Apple Music track.

So if I have uploaded my own files of (e.g.) Martha Argerich playing Schumann's Kriesleriana and I go to listen to it in AM on my phone, I'll hear their defective version and not my undefective one? That super sucks and I wonder if it can be worked around by tagging my stuff with artist or album names that don't match Apple's before I upload them?

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

I've read about some workarounds, but wow, pain in the ass. Like this one: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4544764?tstart=0

It doesn't seem to affect me too much, but it can ruin DJ mixes for sure.

Jeff, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

"play me the number one song in the country"

Here's 'Girl Crush' by Little Big Town

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

"play me the number one song in the UK"

Here 'Anarchy in the U.K.' by Sex Pistols

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

"play me the number one single on the official chart"

OK, let's hear 'Wavin' Flag (the Celebration Mix) (World Cup 2010 Official Anthem)' by Backing Force

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

that's a karaoke version btw

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link

"play me the top selling song in britain"

I couldn't find 'in Britain' on Apple Music or in your library.

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link

"play me the number one single"

OK. Playing your music (shuffled)...

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

"play me the most popular song in the charts"

Now playing 'Egyptian In the Night' by Nuttin' But Stringz...

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

"play me the number one song in the official chart"

Sorry, 'In Music We Trust (Official Wesermove Hymn 2014) [Video Version] [feat. Tabee]' by Linden & Senerano isn't available for streaming.

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

Does Siri work with a Scottish accent?

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

this may be of interest:

New app lets you transfer Spotify playlists to Apple Music
http://www.factmag.com/2015/07/09/new-app-lets-you-transfer-spotify-playlists-to-apple-music/

"As a testament to that simplicity it’s literally called Spotify To Apple Music Playlist or S.t.A.M.P. for short. You can download the app here and although it’s only available for Mac currently, a Windows version is said to be on the way."

djmartian, Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

it makes it an option, thanks.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

To transfer more than 10 tracks you must buy then activate the app.

Sneaky

Hikikomori Povich (tsrobodo), Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

i'm enjoying this for the convenience but it appears that I can't, now, add music to my iphone from my computer. and I can't seem to get upload to icloud music to work either.

akm, Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

Yeah. Not sure why the delay between uploading and having the songs appear on the phone.

calstars, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

suddenly (well, not suddenly, just at some point later) there they were. but itunes doesn't give me any indication that's uploading things to the cloud; i click that cloud icon, and then some time later it's gone.

akm, Thursday, 9 July 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

The missing social and sharing features are sorely lacking. They should have had embeddable playlists at launch. And I miss the passive friends listening feed on Spotify.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 9 July 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link

Also missing popularity meters for individual songs (the best thing spotify borrowed from audio galaxy)

Spencer Chow, Friday, 10 July 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

Uploaded tracks seem to appear faster on iPad than the phone for some reason

calstars, Friday, 10 July 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link

my experience as well.

Actually, the missing popularity meter is nice. On Spotify it made me a much more mercenary listener.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 10 July 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

i heard a guy from apple give a spiel about this today. he kept saying "this is version 1.0" so who knows, maybe the popularity meter will make an appearance.

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 July 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

• The one with offline files not downloading on mobile is the one bugging me right now. It's just impossible to make my larger playlists have offline access.

this is probably the biggest reason Apple music has suuuucked for me (i use a playlist to sync selected music to my iphone as per an ilx user's suggestion years ago). some stuff went missing altogether (including study material i really needed last weekend) and some icloud-matched stuff was greyed out and inaccessible, but beyond that just all the shitty bugs everywhere: duplicated downloads, missing downloads, the heart button not registering half the time. in the end i turned the whole bloody thing off and restored my full itunes library from a time machine backup, and now i'm planning to just rely on spotify for music and some reliable third-party app for my study audio.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 10 July 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

xp did he mean to say "this is version 0.1" or

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 10 July 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

he was stoked about "for you". i have never really rolled with recommendations or dynamic personalized playlists so i wouldn't know

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 July 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link


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