also, that live LCD video freaked me out cuz i'd never seen that guy in area rock mode and the song is so weird! arena pomp city. i was trying to think of what it reminded me of and i drew a blank. like U2 mixed with some madchester band. plus, the video is totally shot like a commercial.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
that article is poorly written
― adam, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
I think Hopper has been too busy with book tour and interviews to do any actual editing of Pitch submissions. Either that or she's a really bad editor.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
Sweet jesus, someone put the Pitch out of its misery. Did the writer and/or editor just forget that the article started with the same (terrible) gag it finishes on?
― Position Position, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
i was trying to think of what it reminded me of and i drew a blank. like U2 mixed with some madchester band.
Ha, I love "All My Friends", but it does how a very strong "Where The Streets Have No Name" vibe, doesn't it?
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
does *have
all my friends and that music video gross me out so much
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
also this made me lol
As music fans, we've become inured to corporate sponsorship—most of all at festivals, as captive audiences, and on the web. It’s hard not to see the benefits when you see what Red Bull makes possible, like DFA’s recent 12th anniversary party.
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
let us all celebrate what red bull makes possible: dfa's 12th anniversary party
thank you red bull
no names, folks, this ain’t TMZ
sure it ain't
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
The New Yorker review of the restaurant also had a lede based around "All My Friends," which is really the hackiest thing to do in this context.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
Losing my edge? The food here was so bad I was losing my lunch.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
the sound of silverware
― doug ellin (Lamp), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link
like a fine wine, james murphy is aging and kinda cool and hairy
― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link
I was there when James Murphy opened a wine bar etc etc
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
Maybe Daft Punk will play there tee hee
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
that article is poorly writtenI think Hopper has been too busy with book tour and interviews to do any actual editing of Pitch submissions. Either that or she's a really bad editor.
I'm actually curious why the editing at The Pitch is so lax, particularly since I admire Hopper's writing so much. I'm not the first one to mention it, but even the pieces that have good ideas in them give off an incredibly strong "young writer's first draft" vibe.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link
What's the point of a round table when the consensus is suffocating?
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/827-a-rihanna-bitch-better-have-my-money-video-roundtable/
― A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 3 July 2015 08:09 (eight years ago) link
it doesn't really seem like a round table discussion though, more like a singles jukebox style "everyone does a blurb" and you get whatever consensus or disagreement rolls in
they're all otm anyway
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 08:59 (eight years ago) link
fuck everything having to be turned around within 24 hours though, sometimes i feel like that's the worst aspect of music writing 2k15. even the best pieces i've read this year (about new albums, songs, videos etc), i know they'd have been so much better even a week later
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:01 (eight years ago) link
The Avalanches' Darren Seltmann Has Left the GroupThey're now a two pieceBy Jeremy Gordon on June 29, 2015 at 1:41 p.m. EDT
Back in February 2014, Seltmann's wife, singer-songwriter Sally Seltmann, told Melbourne's Herald Sun that he'd left the Avalanches. The news was confirmed by the band's label, Modular, who said: "Yep, Darren hasn't been in the band for a while
― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Friday, 3 July 2015 09:12 (eight years ago) link
nb: said confirmation is also from February 2014
― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Friday, 3 July 2015 09:15 (eight years ago) link
The point is to establish the suffocating consensus.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 3 July 2015 12:13 (eight years ago) link
^ a+
― sean gramophone, Friday, 3 July 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link
no idea what internet you are on where the consensus about this video is "suffocating"
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Friday, 3 July 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
he didn't say the internet, he said a specific roundtable piece and provided a link.
the piece may be a corrective to various thinkpieces that went unnamed in the roundtable, and "suffocating" is a bit much, but it is fairly monotone in terms of opinion for a "roundtable" of 8 writers
― da croupier, Friday, 3 July 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
7, rather
in general there seems to be a problem now where writers proudly, and with swagger, refute anti-[whatever] "thinkpieces" that don't actually exist, or exist so far on the margins of discussion that orienting discussion around them is very limiting, and, imo, draining
― J0rdan S., Friday, 3 July 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link
takes on takes on takes
― lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 July 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
creating strawpeople is not a new thing. but it's not even that I don't think the thinkpieces exist (they might!), i just want names! though i guess i also get annoyed when people accuse the "internet" of something and then cite five rando-rubes on twitter.
― da croupier, Friday, 3 July 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
type "Rihanna" into google news, you don't even need to specify the video; this shit is not difficult to find nor to predict
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Friday, 3 July 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
typed "rihanna" into google news, Who cares if Rihanna's BBHMM video is feminist or not? She's the one with the power was the top headline, had to click "explore in depth" to find more obviously opinionated headlines on the video. they were:
Rihanna's success is inspiring - but her new video is violently misogynist (New Statesman)
Rihanna's '#BBHMM' Video Is Brilliant, Terrifying, Complicated (HuffPo)
Rihanna's “Bitch Better Have My Money” Video Is Very Literal, Very Cinematic (Slate)
Stop Saying Rihanna's "Bitch Better Have My Money" Video Is Anti-Feminist (Papermag)
RIHANNA IS THE BAD BITCH WE NEED AND HER TARANTINO-STYLE REVENGE PORN FOR "BBHMM" PROVES IT (Noisey)
so yeah, i see a clearly critical one. but it's weird to ask people to look up the thinkpieces you're saying suck. if you're going to reference them, link to one! if they're easy to find, the person being paid to write about them can put in the effort.
― da croupier, Friday, 3 July 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
I mean I could have clicked them but then I would be part of the problem
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Friday, 3 July 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link
All you need to really do is check to see if the National Feminist Review Board has rubber-stamped their seal of approval.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 July 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link
Safy's blurb in that piece was good
― supreme problematics (D-40), Friday, 3 July 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link
xp katherine, I'm talking about the format not the video. When you have a video that's divisive elsewhere then why convene seven writers who all have the same opinion? Why not just have one review if there's not going to be any debate? And like da croupier says, at least link to the hostile reviews to give some context.
― A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Saturday, 4 July 2015 10:28 (eight years ago) link
what's with the blackface-style language some of the writers are using to talk about this?
― sarahell, Sunday, 5 July 2015 04:20 (eight years ago) link
that's just how they roll.
that video is stupid. in my internet opinion. that song got pretty old for me too once i heard it like 3 times though.
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:28 (eight years ago) link
― sarahell, Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:20 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is there a godwin's law for this
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:33 (eight years ago) link
Meaghan Garvey: There’s a very simple A$AP Yams tweet that’s stuck with me for years.
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:44 (eight years ago) link
the tweet is 'Never vocalise the vision.' it's from august 2013
isnt there like one white writer in the entire group
― supreme problematics (D-40), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:57 (eight years ago) link
not to cape for played out slang useage in music journalism or anything but uhh
― supreme problematics (D-40), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:58 (eight years ago) link
feel like the thing i quoted is p dumb regardless of ethnicity
idk i don't really have a handle on what pitchfork is 'like' anymore
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:04 (eight years ago) link
neither does pitchfork
― j., Sunday, 5 July 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
that pitchfork roundtable on rihanna makes me feel really uncomfortable somehow. like it doubles down on the pure celebration of violence and thinks that because of who is doing this that it has some extended political significance. reminds me of the unmitigated celebrations of gangsta rap in the early 90s. as a reaction to the scolds it makes sense, but it feel like it doesn't really think through what's going on. like the politics of endorsing the video seem a lot more shallow and less realized than the video itself.
― got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link
there was also a roundtable for the song itself that had some of the same participants and same overall super positive tone, although there was at least one dissenter:http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/715-bitch-better-have-my-roundtable-rihannas-bbhmm/
― some dude, Monday, 6 July 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link
oh right. "Newports, not just blunts" -- how could i forget
― got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
it doesn't think through as much as it could because all of the participants had less than 24 hours to churn their opinions out
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 06:20 (eight years ago) link