Next batch of Pixar films after the Monsters Inc. prequel

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I kind of would love to see him direct a response film based on the ideas in his column

intheblanks, Saturday, 27 June 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

seeing this tomorrow. one person I know said it was the only pixar movie in years he didn't cry at; seems completely at odds with what everyone else's experience has been. but he is kind of a drunk and young.

akm, Sunday, 28 June 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link

I don't cry at movies, still liked it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 June 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link

I liked it ok, "didja have to tell kids their imaginary friends will die someday?" is pretty mild as far as my kid movie grumbles go. I'm not sure kids enjoy whimsical self-analysis and metaphors about the need to accept pain as much adults do - already heard about a three year old who thinks the movie is about a robot "because she had people in her brain!" But I was entertained.

da croupier, Sunday, 28 June 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link

Hated lava, though - what an expensive video for such a shitty song

da croupier, Sunday, 28 June 2015 04:21 (eight years ago) link

I didn't really cry at this one, but it's probably because all of my islands of personality have crumbled into the canyon.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 29 June 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link

Uh, I guess a three-year-old may not grasp it, but it's not hard to imagine the premise and execution being compelling for, say, a 9-year-old.

intheblanks, Monday, 29 June 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link

I didn't really cry at this one, but it's probably because all of my islands of personality have crumbled into the canyon.

Same, kind of underwhelmed.

Joy was such a condescending jerk (in the beginning, but that was sort of the point).

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

Also: San Fran-stinktown.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

Disgust's animation and faces are great though.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

i didnt like this bcuz they kept putting the protagonists in one desperate situation after another and they got stupider and more desperate and then the way they finally got out of the final one was such a dumb deus ex machina and it was really frustrating and stupid like the toy story 3 furnace scene 10x in a fucking row and lava was fucking stupid too.

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

yeah but the abstraction chambere

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

disgust is so stupid why does that get to be an emotion and not like... ANY OTHER EMOTION PEOPLE FEEL. it was just a way to shoehorn in mindy k so dumb.

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Pixar could've added Gay and cast Adam Lambert.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link

well it is interesting to note that when they went into the parents heads the emotions were all the same gender as the mom and dad but riley's were BOTH GENDERS omg pixar blowin my mind rn

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link

I like the part where Bing Bong killed himself.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link

fuck richard kind

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

have to admit I wept like a baby at the end of this, my wife is still teasing me about it, but the wish to leave my son with more happy than sad memories is a very strong and fraught feeling for me.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

i also realize this movie is for babies so its ok that i didnt like it but im so sick of this ITS FOR ADULTS TOO hype bullshit when it is clearly NOT

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

I probably wouldn't choose to watch this independent of children, but there is definitely a poignancy that I can relate to as a parent of a child the same age as Riley.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

Are you quoting a 16 year old or is that your actual opinion

da croupier, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

Lol xpost

da croupier, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

16 year old me wasn't into richard kind either

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

i was... underwhelmed by this. even some of the best pixar movies have climaxes that feel, if not perfunctory exactly, then kind of rote. "inside/out" felt a lot like that for much of its length. the inventiveness of the premise did not extend to the mechanics of the action. it also had that problem where it kept making up new rules for the world of the film, to the point where it began to feel quite arbitrary.

that said, there were lots of little clever bits, such that i rarely didn't have a smile on my face. i liked some of the character designs a lot, even if they weren't that original. ("disgust" was the weak link in all respects.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link

also: poor, poor bing bong :(

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

of course, that whole changing-the-rules-every-five-minutes goes double for some ghibli movies. and it gets a little irritating in ponyo and, to a lesser extent, howl's moving castle. but in general the ghibli films are so fucking inventive and weird that i don't mind. (on a side note i rewatched kiki's delivery service last week and i think that might be the stealth best ghibli movie?)

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link

i put totoro / kiki / porco rosso / laputa on the same pedestal

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link

what about nausicaa??!

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

Manga version blows Nausicaa away.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

otm, after reading the books the movie became nigh unwatchable for me, except muted as just something cool to see in the background.

a mallomar full of chamillionaires (Doctor Casino), Monday, 29 June 2015 23:36 (eight years ago) link

leee otm

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

basically all of the "lone girl versus / as-a-manifestation-of the unknown or semi-supernatural" films (nausicaa, howl, spirited away, ponyo, mononoke) are good and occasionally great but not upper tier

actually, add "the wind rises" to the top five up there; i'd be hard pressed to rank them beyond that though

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:10 (eight years ago) link

otm, after reading the books the movie became nigh unwatchable for me, except muted as just something cool to see in the background.

― a mallomar full of chamillionaires (Doctor Casino), Monday, June 29, 2015 6:36 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

challops!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

(you're welcome btw)

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link

I'd been looking forward to seeing this one with my kids. Finally did tonight, and ... pretty disappointed. Reminded me a bit of one of those EPCOT pseudo-educational film before-the-ride movies, but stretched out to feature length. Not boring, just sort of functional. At the same time, it didn't seem quite fleshed out well enough to support its running time - a lot of the movie was just this not terribly thrilling "we need to get the x to the y!" race - though I did love the central conceit of sadness and joy being equally vital components of growing up. And I'd much rather something minor like this than a "Monsters U," no question. But at times I flashed back to "Monsters Inc.", and how wonderfully that movie handled somewhat similar subject matter, yet in a much more creative manner than what this one attempts literally.

Other random thoughts:

1) Design-wise, I actually thought it was pretty uninspiring for Pixar. The main characters were a bit like boring Muppets, and all the little sub-Minion tic tac characters were sort of missed opportunities.

2) I try to see most Pixar movies in 2D, but this felt like the first Pixar movie that really seemed like it was trying to be 3D. Like, lots of things flying at the screen, playing with perspective or otherwise seemingly designed to make the most of 3D. Sort of distracting.

3) I cry at virtually every movie I see with my kids. I love the experience. I probably even cried, most recently, at "Jurassic World," since I love watching them watch movies so much. But weirdly I did not cry at this one.

4) Was surprised at how not funny it was. In fact, early on they use the old "Be positive!" "OK ... I'm positive this is a bad idea" groaner. And then they do it again! And I can't believe they threw in a lame "Forget it, Jake ... " "Chinatown" gag.

5) How long was Riley at the new house? A few days? And jeez, wouldn't that house go for, like, $10 billion dollars in San Fran? Or is that the bad part of town?

6) Bing Bong also seemed like a missed opportunity. And as my older daughter pointed out, shouldn't he have made a fleeting appearance in the opening montage of formative memories?

7) Joy was pretty condescending, wasn't she? She was basically Leslie Knope.

7) The nightmare music was the music from Disney's "Haunted Mansion" ride!

8) I would watch an entire movie about the inner lives of cats.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

on a side note i rewatched kiki's delivery service last week and i think that might be the stealth best ghibli movie?)

we just went thru a Miyazaki festival and, yeah, I agree.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

"Kiki's" is great, one of my older daughter's faves. Also, some great Phil Hartman in the English version.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link

the moment where hartman comes back and says "I'm here too Kiki!" is the moment i determined never to watch a dubbed miyazaki again.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link

kiki is (of course) a very early miyazaki dub, none of the others are that obnoxious

(assuming that the fox totoro is out of print and wiped from memory)

Spirited Away > Kiki > Howls > Ponyo > Mononoke > The Wind Rises > Totoro

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 04:24 (eight years ago) link

i like the fox totoro! the vhs one right?

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link

kiki is (of course) a very early miyazaki dub, none of the others are that obnoxious

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, June 29, 2015 10:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i thought that there were two dubs, one for the first theatrical release, and it was re-done for the DVD/Blu-Ray. maybe i'm mixing it up with a few other films. (yes, i /know/ there was an original, botched american release of nausicaa as "warriors of the wind." i'm talking about disney re-doing a few english dubs.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 05:21 (eight years ago) link

More than most need to know:

http://animeenglishdubreviews.blogspot.com/2009/09/dub-review-kikis-delivery-service.html

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 12:03 (eight years ago) link

I saw the Japanese version of Kiki last week at a screening – marvelous.

Spirited Away > Kiki > Howls > Ponyo > Mononoke > The Wind Rises > Totoro

― Norse Jung (Eric H.)

otm

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link

Totoro deserves more love

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

Was Sadness supposed to resemble Velma from Scooby Doo?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

she wasn't a lesbian.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

kiki > mononoke > totoro > spirited away > ponyo > howls

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link


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